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Trevor Lawrence: Franchise QB (TL Discussion, Merged Threads)
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10-03-2023, 10:34 AM
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(10-03-2023, 10:21 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: https://twitter.com/DanDGriffis/status/1...06419?s=20 Not sure why this tweet is implying that Engram's ADoT is bad. As proven last season, Engram is at his best getting yards after catch. Getting him in open space on screens and crossers maximized his ability and production. The Giants used him as a downfield option and he was inconsistent at best and was widely viewed as a bust during his stint there. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (10-03-2023, 10:24 AM)imtheblkranger Wrote:Correct.(10-03-2023, 10:21 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: https://twitter.com/DanDGriffis/status/1...06419?s=20 Sent from my SM-S906U using Tapatalk "What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king." (10-03-2023, 10:34 AM)empty Wrote:I think it's a generic post that shows how effective Lawrence can be despite poor time in the pocket. He maximizes his deep ball opportunities the most because he knows he's going to be limited by his lineman.(10-03-2023, 10:21 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: https://twitter.com/DanDGriffis/status/1...06419?s=20 We throw left and right. Because the interior three are trash. Just like Lageman called out now on the radio. Sent from my SM-S906U using Tapatalk "What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."
(10-02-2023, 02:47 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: https://twitter.com/LaurieFitzptrck/stat...42706?s=20 That's was a beautiful play. Also I wonder how many times Calvin Ridley will score a TD whilst sitting wide open alone in the endzone lol, he's 2/2 so far. (10-03-2023, 10:54 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote:He makes the hard catches look easy and the easy catches look hard sometimes.(10-02-2023, 02:47 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: https://twitter.com/LaurieFitzptrck/stat...42706?s=20 Was shocked he held onto that one on Sunday. He caught a rifle in week one and then drops a perfectly lobbed pass for a TD against the tinhorns. Really hope Zay Jones is cleared to go this Sunday. I think if he was in the line up on Sunday that shot Lawrence took in the endzone to Hasty is probably something that goes to Zay instead scheme wise. Sent from my SM-S906U using Tapatalk "What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king." We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
(10-02-2023, 09:21 AM)NYC4jags Wrote:(10-02-2023, 08:47 AM)JagsFanSince95 Wrote: Don't get it twisted, I am thrilled we are 2-2, it could be worse(Colts game had me sweating for a minute). I will say, Trevor is the best QB this team has ever fielded to date and it's not close. I am kind of tired seeing all the over hyping and PFF nonsense where in year's past people would dismiss it tbh. I still do, it is a useless metric. Yes, it's Trevor's rookie contract. That's when the whole team turns into a pumpkin if you end up paying an above average QB top of the market.
(10-03-2023, 11:27 AM)JagsFanSince95 Wrote:(10-02-2023, 09:21 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: Is there a countdown clock I don't know about that indicates the moment Lawrence will turn into a pumpkin if you don't deem him elite? LOL So you're good with just letting TLaw head on out to free agency then? “An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato
(10-03-2023, 11:27 AM)JagsFanSince95 Wrote: That's when the whole team turns into a pumpkin if you end up paying an above average QB top of the market. This is a huge concern for owners/GMs. The Chiefs paid Mahomes almost half a billion dollars to stay on the team, no problem he's considered the #1 QB and he's already brought another Superbowl trophy home. But then Burrow, Justin Herbert, Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hurts, Russell Wilson, Kyler Murray and Deshaun Watson were all making more money with their new contracts, so they had to add on to the half a billion dollars to keep Mahomes. How would you like your team to have all of that salary cap % tied up to Wilson, Jackson, and Murray?
Trevor has been playing really well, outside of Dropped Passes, Dropped TDS and Tipped pass into a INT. you are looking at another 200 Yards maybe 250 and 4 more TDs and 1 Less Int. and he is looking alot better than his stats show. We need to pay him cause he is the guy.
We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (10-03-2023, 12:53 PM)cland Wrote:(10-03-2023, 11:27 AM)JagsFanSince95 Wrote: That's when the whole team turns into a pumpkin if you end up paying an above average QB top of the market. objection, the assertion was paying above average QBs top of the market money. I *might* concede Lamar, but he's a scramble and hit away from being forced to rely solely on his arm. (10-03-2023, 11:27 AM)JagsFanSince95 Wrote:(10-02-2023, 09:21 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: Is there a countdown clock I don't know about that indicates the moment Lawrence will turn into a pumpkin if you don't deem him elite? LOL LOLwut? Yes, let's let the best quarterback we've ever had walk in free agency. Teams that find any glimmer of hope at QB routinely pay them to explore whether he's good enough to take them to the show over time. This is standard practice the league over since every year there are 10-12 teams who would kill for a QB that's "above average." The league is littered with overpaid QBs who showed enough flash to get a big deal but weren't great in the end. Trevor has at least shown some rare talent that could actually turn into something special if managed correctly. If the wheels don't come off this season - you play the kid and lock him down long as you can without a second thought about it. (10-03-2023, 10:48 AM)Caldrac Wrote:(10-03-2023, 10:34 AM)empty Wrote: Not sure why this tweet is implying that Engram's ADoT is bad. As proven last season, Engram is at his best getting yards after catch. Getting him in open space on screens and crossers maximized his ability and production. The Giants used him as a downfield option and he was inconsistent at best and was widely viewed as a bust during his stint there.I think it's a generic post that shows how effective Lawrence can be despite poor time in the pocket. He maximizes his deep ball opportunities the most because he knows he's going to be limited by his lineman. Yeah I get that, his first sentence pointing out how effective Trevor has been on deep passes is great. It's his 2nd sentence pointing out Engram's low ADoT, implying Engram should be the recipient of some of those deep passes that I don't understand. That just isn't Engram's game, as evidenced by his struggles in NY and great season last year. Run Engram horizontally, not vertically. That number for Engram probably could be a bit higher, but I don't think it's a big deal. (10-03-2023, 02:50 PM)empty Wrote:I agree.(10-03-2023, 10:48 AM)Caldrac Wrote: I think it's a generic post that shows how effective Lawrence can be despite poor time in the pocket. He maximizes his deep ball opportunities the most because he knows he's going to be limited by his lineman. I was more posting it for Trevor and did find the little Engram fact odd. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
Once the line gets sorted out a bit all this will resolve itself.
A new broom always sweeps clean.
(10-03-2023, 03:53 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:(10-03-2023, 03:20 PM)Jag149 Wrote: Once the line gets sorted out a bit all this will resolve itself. September 2024 at that. “An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato
We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (10-03-2023, 05:48 PM)Eric1 Wrote: https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1709297672387973492Some good [BLEEP] in here. Appreciate it. Sent from my SM-S906U using Tapatalk "What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."
(10-03-2023, 02:27 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:(10-03-2023, 11:27 AM)JagsFanSince95 Wrote: Yes, it's Trevor's rookie contract. That's when the whole team turns into a pumpkin if you end up paying an above average QB top of the market. Don't ever disrespect our lord and savior Blake Bortles like that again. Jokes aside tho, barring a complete meltdown from Trevor I think it'd be dumb not to work out his contract this offseason. (10-03-2023, 03:53 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:(10-03-2023, 03:20 PM)Jag149 Wrote: Once the line gets sorted out a bit all this will resolve itself. My goodness I truly hope not. If it does then I am sure the board will find a good scapegoat. ??
A new broom always sweeps clean.
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