Yea, there is only one way to do things. if it is not done that way you got lucky!

Tell that to Baalkie and Doug and

https://y.yarn.co/ed2bb43e-caae-4a4e-90f...5_text.mp4

Lol, we got lucky that we got ETN and not Toney. We're lucky that ETN's foot injury wasn't career limiting. We are fortunate that our free agent class and new coach launched this team to rapid success. So yeah, a lot of luck went into this pick being a success. As I've said, you don't sustain success with bad strategy that gets lucky once in a while.

LOL we picked the best JOEKELL ever.  

Your arguement makes no sense.  

Everyone said we had to take Joekell because of the value need, and best available, and blah blah blah.  And guess what?  It was a BUST!!!

ETN at the end of the 1st round is by far the right pick.  Just because a PIECE of [BLEEP] Urban Meyer wanted something else doesn't change the fact that ETN was the correct pick.

I don't know why you keep trying to argue this point.  Especially with such fallacious nonsense.  But go on.  Keep owning your self, and we'll keep pointing out how you are getting owned... By yourself.

Just let it go.  Let this thread die...

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Lol, we got lucky that we got ETN and not Toney. We're lucky that ETN's foot injury wasn't career limiting. We are fortunate that our free agent class and new coach launched this team to rapid success. So yeah, a lot of luck went into this pick being a success. As I've said, you don't sustain success with bad strategy that gets lucky once in a while.

LOL we picked the best JOEKELL ever.  

Your arguement makes no sense.  

Everyone said we had to take Joekell because of the value need, and best available, and blah blah blah.  And guess what?  It was a BUST!!!

ETN at the end of the 1st round is by far the right pick.  Just because a PIECE of [BLEEP] Urban Meyer wanted something else doesn't change the fact that ETN was the correct pick.

I don't know why you keep trying to argue this point.  Especially with such fallacious nonsense.  But go on.  Keep owning your self, and we'll keep pointing out how you are getting owned... By yourself.

Just let it go.  Let this thread die...

You do know there's only 4 players who were drafted in the 1st round from that draft class that are still in the league. That draft was terrible. It's probably the worst 1st round in league history.

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LOL we picked the best JOEKELL ever.  

Your arguement makes no sense.  

Everyone said we had to take Joekell because of the value need, and best available, and blah blah blah.  And guess what?  It was a BUST!!!

ETN at the end of the 1st round is by far the right pick.  Just because a PIECE of [BLEEP] Urban Meyer wanted something else doesn't change the fact that ETN was the correct pick.

I don't know why you keep trying to argue this point.  Especially with such fallacious nonsense.  But go on.  Keep owning your self, and we'll keep pointing out how you are getting owned... By yourself.

Just let it go.  Let this thread die...

You do know there's only 4 players who were drafted in the 1st round from that draft class that are still in the league. That draft was terrible. It's probably the worst 1st round in league history.

It's a shame both KC and Jax took the wrong Tackles at 1 and 2. Lane Johnson went at 4 and he's been a stud ever since.

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You do know there's only 4 players who were drafted in the 1st round from that draft class that are still in the league. That draft was terrible. It's probably the worst 1st round in league history.

It's a shame both KC and Jax took the wrong Tackles at 1 and 2. Lane Johnson went at 4 and he's been a stud ever since.

This drafting thing would be easy if we could those humans out of the process.

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

Lol, we got lucky that we got ETN and not Toney. We're lucky that ETN's foot injury wasn't career limiting. We are fortunate that our free agent class and new coach launched this team to rapid success. So yeah, a lot of luck went into this pick being a success. As I've said, you don't sustain success with bad strategy that gets lucky once in a while.

If having a strategy of never picking a RB in the first round leads to never picking Travis Etienne at pick #25, then it's a bad strategy.  You're not just picking a position, you're picking a specific player.

Well, as long as you so misconstrued what's actually being said then you're absolutely right.

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Lol, we got lucky that we got ETN and not Toney. We're lucky that ETN's foot injury wasn't career limiting. We are fortunate that our free agent class and new coach launched this team to rapid success. So yeah, a lot of luck went into this pick being a success. As I've said, you don't sustain success with bad strategy that gets lucky once in a while.

LOL we picked the best JOEKELL ever.  

Your arguement makes no sense.  

Everyone said we had to take Joekell because of the value need, and best available, and blah blah blah.  And guess what?  It was a BUST!!!

ETN at the end of the 1st round is by far the right pick.  Just because a PIECE of [BLEEP] Urban Meyer wanted something else doesn't change the fact that ETN was the correct pick.

I don't know why you keep trying to argue this point.  Especially with such fallacious nonsense.  But go on.  Keep owning your self, and we'll keep pointing out how you are getting owned... By yourself.

Just let it go.  Let this thread die...

Balderdash.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Top 15 RBs mid season

https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-rb-index-we...ket-in-sec

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CMC vs ETN is quite the matchup on Sunday

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CMC vs ETN is quite the matchup on Sunday

I'm rooting for ETN...

You MODs are haters and are rooting for CMC to prove your god-like knowledge of football...

ETN is the best value player between CMC's trade and ETN's draft pick.

But if we lose, you'll point out how bad the pick was.

It's not that hard to figure out your hypocrisy.  At least I stand by my opinions.  Make a thought.  Don't hedge your bets like a chump.

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CMC vs ETN is quite the matchup on Sunday

I'm rooting for ETN...

You MODs are haters and are rooting for CMC to prove your god-like knowledge of football...

ETN is the best value player between CMC's trade and ETN's draft pick.

But if we lose, you'll point out how bad the pick was.

It's not that hard to figure out your hypocrisy.  At least I stand by my opinions.  Make a thought.  Don't hedge your bets like a chump.

LOL

You're inability to distinguish between draft philosophy and "hate" is making you appear a fool more and more with every post 

I love that ETN is Jag and I hope he goes off on Sunday - I just don't like the coin-toss/50-50 gamble of taking devalued positions in the first round.

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CMC vs ETN is quite the matchup on Sunday

I'm rooting for ETN...

You MODs are haters and are rooting for CMC to prove your god-like knowledge of football...

ETN is the best value player between CMC's trade and ETN's draft pick.

But if we lose, you'll point out how bad the pick was.

It's not that hard to figure out your hypocrisy.  At least I stand by my opinions.  Make a thought.  Don't hedge your bets like a chump.

Spoiler alert: I'm rooting for ETN too. If we lose it likely won't be because of ETN. I don't care about CMC except to show how little value RBs have to bad teams.

And yes, I do have diety like knowledge of football. That's not in dispute.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

I'm rooting for ETN...

You MODs are haters and are rooting for CMC to prove your god-like knowledge of football...

ETN is the best value player between CMC's trade and ETN's draft pick.

But if we lose, you'll point out how bad the pick was.

It's not that hard to figure out your hypocrisy.  At least I stand by my opinions.  Make a thought.  Don't hedge your bets like a chump.

LOL

You're inability to distinguish between draft philosophy and "hate" is making you appear a fool more and more with every post 

I love that ETN is Jag and I hope he goes off on Sunday - I just don't like the coin-toss/50-50 gamble of taking devalued positions in the first round.

But it wasn't a 50-50 coin toss.  The talent was very obvious.  It's only a gamble if you don't know what you're looking at.

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CMC vs ETN is quite the matchup on Sunday

I'm rooting for ETN...

You MODs are haters and are rooting for CMC to prove your god-like knowledge of football...

ETN is the best value player between CMC's trade and ETN's draft pick.

But if we lose, you'll point out how bad the pick was.

It's not that hard to figure out your hypocrisy.  At least I stand by my opinions.  Make a thought.  Don't hedge your bets like a chump.

Dude, it's ok, you can put the tinfoil hat back on the shelf.

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LOL

You're inability to distinguish between draft philosophy and "hate" is making you appear a fool more and more with every post 

I love that ETN is Jag and I hope he goes off on Sunday - I just don't like the coin-toss/50-50 gamble of taking devalued positions in the first round.

But it wasn't a 50-50 coin toss.  The talent was very obvious.  It's only a gamble if you don't know what you're looking at.

LOL

That's what every GM says about every first round pick they take - even when its Ryan Leaf and Leonard Fournette.
The talent is obvious! 

It's a gamble. Better to gamble on bigger value.

RBs taken in the first round historically will also support my statement. About half don't pan out. That's yet another reason why the practice fell off of a cliff several years ago.

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Being skeptical over a running back in the first round isn’t unfair. I do think there’s a major difference in taking one top 10 vs back end of the round.

Personally ETN is someone I was hoping for with the pick. He was a home run hitter I thought would be very dynamic. Very glad we took him and that it has worked out well.

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Being skeptical over a running back in the first round isn’t unfair. I do think there’s a major difference in taking one top 10 vs back end of the round.

Personally ETN is someone I was hoping for with the pick. He was a home run hitter I thought would be very dynamic. Very glad we took him and that it has worked out well.

Yeah.

I was not happy about it - and now I'm ecstatic I wasn't the one making the pick. 

I know my draft philosophy isn't perfect - but I trust what  it would do for roster value and sustainability over time.

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But it wasn't a 50-50 coin toss.  The talent was very obvious.  It's only a gamble if you don't know what you're looking at.

LOL

That's what every GM says about every first round pick they take - even when its Ryan Leaf and Leonard Fournette.
The talent is obvious! 

It's a gamble. Better to gamble on bigger value.

RBs taken in the first round historically will also support my statement. About half don't pan out. That's yet another reason why the practice fell off of a cliff several years ago.

it sounds like you don't believe in the value of scouting the players.  You would rather draft according to a formula, regardless of the talent level of the players available.

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NYC I just wanted to say that I really enjoy your posts. I think though that saying it was 50/50 is a bit subjective and discredits the work and scouting the team does when evaluating draft picks. Not to mention the built in chemistry with Trevor from day one. Of course there is risk with nearly any pick and it’s key to hit on first rounds. But we did hit with ETN. The correct decision was made, objectively.

I definitely agree with the concept of being careful which RB you select/draft position. Some calculated risks must be taken to build a contender. It would be a shame right now if this team didn’t have a player like ETN.

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LOL

That's what every GM says about every first round pick they take - even when its Ryan Leaf and Leonard Fournette.
The talent is obvious! 

It's a gamble. Better to gamble on bigger value.

RBs taken in the first round historically will also support my statement. About half don't pan out. That's yet another reason why the practice fell off of a cliff several years ago.

it sounds like you don't believe in the value of scouting the players.  You would rather draft according to a formula, regardless of the talent level of the players available.

It sounds like you don't realize they are all wrong about their scouting assessments very regularly and there are ways to mitigate  the damage that causes.

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it sounds like you don't believe in the value of scouting the players.  You would rather draft according to a formula, regardless of the talent level of the players available.

It sounds like you don't realize they are all wrong about their scouting assessments very regularly and there are ways to mitigate  the damage that causes.

By eliminating scouting?  Drafting according to a formula?

Obviously, the scouting assessments are correct more often than they are incorrect and I base that on the fact that first round picks have a higher success rate than second round picks, which have a higher success rate than third round picks, and so on.

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Any player can bust, but I think Etienne was one of the safest players in the draft to succeed and play at a high level in the NFL. 3 main things that make a elite prospect imo. Elite production, elite athletism, and high character. He had all 3

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