Mayfield going to see bench before Trevor

Trevor's off but I don't think Doug should bench him. His confidence is already shaken, no reason to damage it any worse than it is currently.

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So Bortles would look the same or better than Lawrence with this team?

In this game and if it were the Good Bortles, yeah.

Thank you for confirming your opinion is all emotion and zero actual facts.

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If the players don't give a [BLEEP] then neither do I.

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I think you bench Trevor, he don’t look right

His throwing mechanics require him to be fully healthy and have a relatively clean pocket. He is not the same guy when he is hurt or has pressure up the middle. When he is hurt he compensates and does weird things that jack things up and cause him to mess up. Yes he can make some amazing throws when on the run, but it is pretty rare when he makes amazing plays with alternate arm angles, not stepping up, half arming, getting hit, off balance, etc.

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Guys, it’s over. Our window closed yet again. Enjoy the holidays with family and friends.

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Should've let Beathard earn his check and let Lawrence recover

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Then you might as well bench everybody because nobody looks right. This entire team is cooked.

Thank you.

I’m saying health wise, the dude is going through it

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Damn. The halftime report from Bucky Brooks in the locker room...... it sounds pretty bad. It sounds downright awful. Sad Doug couldn't get the players to come together in a circle. Players lollygagging and not interested. So evidently Doug has lost the locker room.

What? Not good

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I want him to improve. I'm saying that I don't give him an early extension. He has to earn it, and so far he hasn't.

Who would you trade him for?  Waiting.

This is such a stupid question. I didn't say I wanted to trade him. I said I didn't want to offer him a large contract unless he improved.

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In this game and if it were the Good Bortles, yeah.

Thank you for confirming your opinion is all emotion and zero actual facts.

Well it is an opinion but it's informed by having seen both players play in their good times and their bad. I can't help that you have a hard time wrapping your head around it.

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Mayfield going to see bench before Trevor

Trevor's off but I don't think Doug should bench him. His confidence is already shaken, no reason to damage it any worse than it is currently.

Lageman says at this point Trevor shouldn't get hit one more time for at least another week.

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Seriously. It is extremely rare for any one player to be 100% at fault for a mistake on a play. If you want say he was like 60-70% at fault for them, sure, but 100% is just showing a high level of bias.

Who else can i blame when he over throws both wrs who were open under no pressure. Its 100%

The Ingram pick was a miscommunication. That ball is out before Ingram makes his turn. It is based on them both reading the coverage and play incorrectly. Without knowing their rules, I couldn't tell you who was truly at fault.

Also Trevor normally throws those balls "as ropes", instead of with a bit more touch and lift. He isn't the only one as that is the general trend around the NFL. Like Brees would have had more arc so even if there is miscommunication, it doesn't go as high and Engram has more chance to adjust. But that also has risk of the Safety closing on it and making a play.

My whole point is that nothing is black and white like you are making it out to be. You are just doing that because it easier for you to cope. I get why; but don't get mad at the other posters because you are not acknowledging the nuances of the situations.

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Mayfield going to see bench before Trevor

Trevor's off but I don't think Doug should bench him. His confidence is already shaken, no reason to damage it any worse than it is currently.

I'm more worried for his health than his confidence, personally.

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Damn. The halftime report from Bucky Brooks in the locker room...... it sounds pretty bad. It sounds downright awful. Sad Doug couldn't get the players to come together in a circle. Players lollygagging and not interested. So evidently Doug has lost the locker room.

What? Not good

Yep. I'm listening to the game on the local radio station with Lageman, Boselli and Frangie.

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I would love for someone to show me a QB that has over come the 30tn ranked oline, WRs who can't catch or run correct routes, a running back averaging 3.7 yards, a defense giving up 25+ points, and two injured legs.

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Damn. The halftime report from Bucky Brooks in the locker room...... it sounds pretty bad. It sounds downright awful. Sad Doug couldn't get the players to come together in a circle. Players lollygagging and not interested. So evidently Doug has lost the locker room.

Not surprising one bit.

Team is abysmal from top to bottom. Coaching AND players. Playcalling AND execution.

This is on every player on the team - no if's, and's, or but's.

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Thank you.

I’m saying health wise, the dude is going through it

I get you and he looks really frustrated right now but I'm guessing Doug hopes he can have something positive.

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ZERO rush yards LOLOLOLOL. Just run the ball better Trevor it's not hard...

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So why do we have back up in on D?

NH3...

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"AZANE"

Let Allen walk?

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