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Fire Baalke Thread 2023-2024
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Balkie is fools gold. He does a little something, and Kahn keeps him around. Over all, he’s a d+ to a c- gm.
(12-30-2023, 01:21 AM)Jag88 Wrote:(12-30-2023, 01:18 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Chicken salad out of chicken [BLEEP]. Yes it's funny how usually the Trevor fanboys seem to think that this roster isn't better than last years which is idiotic to say the least. They'll die on blaming the entire failure on OL and ignore facts like the playcalling/OC and bad QB play. So hilarious. (12-30-2023, 01:21 AM)Jag88 Wrote: Haha This roster is better than last years. They just lost key and Taylor for the most part. Swapping Taylor for Harrison has almost been a wash although maybe a slight downgrade. At least for this year. The main difference on offense has been swapping Jones for Ridley. That was supposed to be the change that put us over the top but in the end might have been the biggest negative. Too many key drops from Ridley. Too many missed routes or giving up early on plays. Early in the year felt like we focused on him to our detriment. Lawrence said in thr past that Jones was like his security blanket. Always ran hard, ran good routes, dependable. Mads key plays for us in our stretch run last year. 4th down catch, ravens td, etc... Other key difference was few injuries last year. Losing Cam late but Little came in and was just as good. This year constant turnover on the line. Zay with nagging injury all year. Kirk been out during this losing streak. ________________________________________________ Scouting well is all that matters. Draft philosophy is all fluff.
(12-30-2023, 01:21 AM)Jag88 Wrote:(12-30-2023, 01:18 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Chicken salad out of chicken [BLEEP]. PEDSRob out half the year. Little injured twice. Bartch/Little/Shatley terrible. Fortner on roller skates all year Scherff on and off, mostly off Rookie gonna rook. Agent Zero drops literal games. Kirk and Jones both out significant time Lawrence with the shortest pocket time around and 4 serious injuries as a result. No running game in sight to help because of the first 5 lines above. Kicker went in the tank. Even so were still top 10 in points per game until a week ago. Let's not even talk about the defensive failures. The only things working on this team this year are Allen and Engram. But sure...better roster and it's all the play calling. Keep Taylor or not, a different OC doesn't fix those problems. The problem is the GM, he's incomplete and over-promoted. “An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato
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Two years ago we were the worst team in the league. Now, even though we are still leading our division, we want to fire everyone. It's kind of ridiculous. I know we have some obvious holes in our roster, and the guys we do have are not performing as well as they could. But man, talk about an overreaction.
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(12-30-2023, 09:05 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: Two years ago we were the worst team in the league. Now, even though we are still leading our division, we want to fire everyone. It's kind of ridiculous. I know we have some obvious holes in our roster, and the guys we do have are not performing as well as they could. But man, talk about an overreaction. Not just obvious holes. Obvious holes that should have been addressed in the off season. HUGE difference. Taking a TE and a RB in the 2nd and 3rd were and are head scratchers. Personally I find that MORE ridiculous. ![]()
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(12-30-2023, 09:08 AM)RicoTx Wrote:(12-30-2023, 09:05 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: Two years ago we were the worst team in the league. Now, even though we are still leading our division, we want to fire everyone. It's kind of ridiculous. I know we have some obvious holes in our roster, and the guys we do have are not performing as well as they could. But man, talk about an overreaction. Okay with me, but it's pretty obvious that if we act like this, we're going to want to fire everybody about every 2 years, because more than occasionally, GMs, coaches, and players make mistakes, and teams do occasionally take a dip. This is either a massive overreaction or people have just been waiting for the team to falter so they can go back to saying this guy or that guy ought to be fired. We act like, as Jags fans, we are entitled to perfection. Well, it's probably not going to happen, no matter whom we employ as GM or head coach. It's a severe lack of perspective. I was listening to Lou Holtz one time and he said something like, "At first, they say they just want to be competitive. Then they say they just want to win some games. Then they say they want to win all the games. Then they still aren't satisfied, because now they want to win them all BIG." Two years ago we were the worst team in the league, now we're leading our division and possibly about to win the division for the 2nd straight year. But we want to fire everybody because, what, we're not perfect? We want to fire everybody because we haven't gone from last place to the Super Bowl in 2 years?
(12-30-2023, 10:02 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:(12-30-2023, 09:08 AM)RicoTx Wrote: Not just obvious holes. Obvious holes that should have been addressed in the off season. HUGE difference. Taking a TE and a RB in the 2nd and 3rd were and are head scratchers. Personally I find that MORE ridiculous. Our starting QB can’t play because of multiple injuries behind a very weak O line, the run game is nonexistent and we’re hanging on by a thread in a year when we should have made great strides, especially in a weak division. Why? Because Trent Baalke didn’t address the huge obvious holes on our team. Your logic is akin to putting bald tires on a new car and then wondering why people are unhappy when they go flat and the car is beginning to incur damage from all of its blowouts. ‘What are you guys complaining about? The car made it to Pensacola. Last year it could only get to Tallahassee. I put a better stereo in it!’ When the car is fully capable of making it to California. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (12-30-2023, 10:02 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:Do you think the roster is set up for future success?(12-30-2023, 09:08 AM)RicoTx Wrote: Not just obvious holes. Obvious holes that should have been addressed in the off season. HUGE difference. Taking a TE and a RB in the 2nd and 3rd were and are head scratchers. Personally I find that MORE ridiculous.
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(12-30-2023, 10:37 AM)Cleatwood Wrote:(12-30-2023, 10:02 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: Okay with me, but it's pretty obvious that if we act like this, we're going to want to fire everybody about every 2 years, because more than occasionally, GMs, coaches, and players make mistakes, and teams do occasionally take a dip. This is either a massive overreaction or people have just been waiting for the team to falter so they can go back to saying this guy or that guy ought to be fired. We act like, as Jags fans, we are entitled to perfection. Well, it's probably not going to happen, no matter whom we employ as GM or head coach. It's a severe lack of perspective.Do you think the roster is set up for future success? So far, under the current regime for the 2 years they've been totally in charge, we've gone from horrible to above average. So, if by "future success" you mean winning the Super Bowl, the answer is, not yet. We still need to keep building the roster. But that doesn't make we want to fire anyone. That would be ridiculous. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
(12-30-2023, 10:56 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:(12-30-2023, 10:37 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: Do you think the roster is set up for future success? If we lose our next 2 games we went backwards from last year. Year 2 you should show progress not backwards. I think we should fire Baalke if we don't win atleast 1 playoff game this year. (12-30-2023, 10:56 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:See that’s the rub here. Baalke has been here far longer than 2 years.(12-30-2023, 10:37 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: Do you think the roster is set up for future success? The roster is better. That’s true but the Jags will no longer have the most cap space or the best draft positions so long as Trevor is here. They need someone who is a truly good at evaluating talent. The Rams haven’t had a 1st rounder in forever and yet they keep hitting on talent because of McVay and Snead. I like some of the stuff Baalke has done but if the decision were up to me, regardless of how the season plays out, I’m firing Baalke.
(12-30-2023, 11:34 AM)Cleatwood Wrote:(12-30-2023, 10:56 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: So far, under the current regime for the 2 years they've been totally in charge, we've gone from horrible to above average. So, if by "future success" you mean winning the Super Bowl, the answer is, not yet. We still need to keep building the roster.See that’s the rub here. Baalke has been here far longer than 2 years. We have to look at how the roster got better, too. It didn't get better by drafting elite talents when they're inexpensive and can drive your team to Superbowls, it got better by paying big money to decent free agents. The team is already as good as it can ever be under a guy like Baalke, and arguably would only head downhill from here as it's forced to use a ton more cap space for Trevor. Keeping Baalke two years ago was as disastrous as people like myself knew it would be. |
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