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#21

(01-27-2024, 08:25 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Little - Cleveland - Feliciano - Hunt - Harrison

Draft: JPJ and one of Fuaga/Latham/Mims then one of Haynes/Mahogany/Beebe/Ratledge.

I highly doubt we will be able to get Powers Johnson and one of the RT you mentioned.  It will likely be one or the other.  It would be nice though.
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(01-27-2024, 08:38 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(01-27-2024, 08:25 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Little - Cleveland - Feliciano - Hunt - Harrison

Draft: JPJ and one of Fuaga/Latham/Mims then one of Haynes/Mahogany/Beebe/Ratledge.

I highly doubt we will be able to get Powers Johnson and one of the RT you mentioned.  It will likely be one or the other.  It would be nice though.

It's early yet, lots of evaluations to take place the next 90 days.
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#23

(01-27-2024, 08:39 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(01-27-2024, 08:38 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: I highly doubt we will be able to get Powers Johnson and one of the RT you mentioned.  It will likely be one or the other.  It would be nice though.

It's early yet, lots of evaluations to take place the next 90 days.

For sure, If he has a poor combine then there is a chance, if he has a really good combine and Senior Bowl then it's not happening .
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#24

As far as the LT position. If they feel Little is our future at one of the tackle positions and they plan to resign him I put Little at LT and keep Harrison at RT. If they don't think he is our future there I move Harrison to LT
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#25

(01-28-2024, 09:29 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: As far as the LT position.  If they feel Little is our future at one of the tackle positions and they plan to resign him I put Little at LT and keep Harrison at RT.  If they don't think he is our future there I move Harrison to LT

Yep, exactly right. There's no sense in playing Harrison another year in a position you don't intend for him to be in longe term. It's also cheaper to just draft the new RT than to play this game of musical tackles another year. Either Little in the long term left tackle or he's the swing for 1 year then out the door.
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#26

Walker Little got walked like a dog right onto Lawrence's ankle and is the catalyst of the team's slow burn of losing after that Monday Night letdown.

If he gets the nod? Just like the dog that he is. He needs to be on a short leash. I don't trust him. It's now year four and the guy has yet to start a full 17 game season nor find himself a starting job.

Another fantastic evaluation job on Baalke's end I am sure...

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#27

(01-28-2024, 12:19 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(01-28-2024, 09:29 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: As far as the LT position.  If they feel Little is our future at one of the tackle positions and they plan to resign him I put Little at LT and keep Harrison at RT.  If they don't think he is our future there I move Harrison to LT

Yep, exactly right. There's no sense in playing Harrison another year in a position you don't intend for him to be in longe term. It's also cheaper to just draft the new RT than to play this game of musical tackles another year. Either Little in the long term left tackle or he's the swing for 1 year then out the door.

I think Harrison is ultimately left tackle.
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#28

(01-28-2024, 12:41 PM)Caldrac Wrote: Walker Little got walked like a dog right onto Lawrence's ankle and is the catalyst of the team's slow burn of losing after that Monday Night letdown.

If he gets the nod? Just like the dog that he is. He needs to be on a short leash. I don't trust him. It's now year four and the guy has yet to start a full 17 game season nor find himself a starting job.

Another fantastic evaluation job on Baalke's end I am sure...

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Sorry to pry but did you have a different name on the old message board?  You seem like that guy who I cannot recall his board name in this moment.
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#29

(01-27-2024, 05:09 PM)Caldrac Wrote: Anton Harrison - LT
Javion Cohen - LG (Draft RD3)
Sedrick Van Pran - C (Draft RD2)
Robert Hunt - RG (Sign from MIA)
Tyler Guyton - RT (Draft RD1)

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3 rookies on the oline? Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.
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#30

(01-28-2024, 02:29 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote:
(01-27-2024, 05:09 PM)Caldrac Wrote: Anton Harrison - LT
Javion Cohen - LG (Draft RD3)
Sedrick Van Pran - C (Draft RD2)
Robert Hunt - RG (Sign from MIA)
Tyler Guyton - RT (Draft RD1)

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3 rookies on the oline? Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.

Yeah, not a fan of that at all.  Guyton at 17 feels like a huge reach to me as well
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#31

Need proven beef from free agency
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#32

(01-28-2024, 02:29 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote:
(01-27-2024, 05:09 PM)Caldrac Wrote: Anton Harrison - LT
Javion Cohen - LG (Draft RD3)
Sedrick Van Pran - C (Draft RD2)
Robert Hunt - RG (Sign from MIA)
Tyler Guyton - RT (Draft RD1)

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3 rookies on the oline? Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.

Idk, I think the disaster already happened
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#33

(01-28-2024, 12:41 PM)Caldrac Wrote: Walker Little got walked like a dog right onto Lawrence's ankle and is the catalyst of the team's slow burn of losing after that Monday Night letdown.

If he gets the nod? Just like the dog that he is. He needs to be on a short leash. I don't trust him. It's now year four and the guy has yet to start a full 17 game season nor find himself a starting job.

Another fantastic evaluation job on Baalke's end I am sure...

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From what I remember, Little had just gotten injured on the previous play.
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(01-28-2024, 02:29 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote:
(01-27-2024, 05:09 PM)Caldrac Wrote: Anton Harrison - LT
Javion Cohen - LG (Draft RD3)
Sedrick Van Pran - C (Draft RD2)
Robert Hunt - RG (Sign from MIA)
Tyler Guyton - RT (Draft RD1)

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3 rookies on the oline? Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.
It's unlikely but that was my fix in a pinch.
(01-28-2024, 02:33 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(01-28-2024, 02:29 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: 3 rookies on the oline? Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.

Yeah, not a fan of that at all.  Guyton at 17 feels like a huge reach to me as well
Can't be any worse than it's been over the last two seasons...

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#35

(01-28-2024, 05:57 PM)Caldrac Wrote:
(01-28-2024, 02:29 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: 3 rookies on the oline? Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.
It's unlikely but that was my fix in a pinch.
(01-28-2024, 02:33 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Yeah, not a fan of that at all.  Guyton at 17 feels like a huge reach to me as well
Can't be any worse than it's been over the last two seasons...

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Didn't say it would be worse but I think we can do much better
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#36

(01-28-2024, 12:41 PM)Caldrac Wrote: Walker Little got walked like a dog right onto Lawrence's ankle and is the catalyst of the team's slow burn of losing after that Monday Night letdown.

If he gets the nod? Just like the dog that he is. He needs to be on a short leash. I don't trust him. It's now year four and the guy has yet to start a full 17 game season nor find himself a starting job.

Another fantastic evaluation job on Baalke's end I am sure...

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Man, you really need to move past that. It was one play and he was injured just before. It happens to all of them at one time or another.
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(This post was last modified: 01-28-2024, 06:46 PM by Caldrac.)

(01-28-2024, 06:25 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(01-28-2024, 12:41 PM)Caldrac Wrote: Walker Little got walked like a dog right onto Lawrence's ankle and is the catalyst of the team's slow burn of losing after that Monday Night letdown.

If he gets the nod? Just like the dog that he is. He needs to be on a short leash. I don't trust him. It's now year four and the guy has yet to start a full 17 game season nor find himself a starting job.

Another fantastic evaluation job on Baalke's end I am sure...

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Man, you really need to move past that. It was one play and he was injured just before. It happens to all of them at one time or another.
17 career starts in 3 games. Has had multiple chances at 3 different positions now to claim a starting job.

Just not convinced he's the answer.

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(01-28-2024, 06:19 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(01-28-2024, 05:57 PM)Caldrac Wrote: It's unlikely but that was my fix in a pinch.
Can't be any worse than it's been over the last two seasons...

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Didn't say it would be worse but I think we can do much better
Depends. Baalke is 50/50. I think he got it right with Anton Harrison but whiffed with Luke Fortner and whiffed with Brandon Scherff.

Walker Little's selection may or may not be on him as well.

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#38

Alternate Preference:

LT - Cam Robinson (After a restructured contract)
LG - Cooper Beebe - RD2
C - Lloyd Cushenberry (From FA leaving DEN)
RG - Robert Hunt (From FA, leaving MIA)
RT - Anton Harrison

I still think Baalke drafts another offensive lineman in RD1 or at least another guy in RD3. Possibly another tackle like Tyler Guyton out of Oklahoma or Jordan Morgan out of Arizona if he manages to trade down and move some things around like he did last year for Harrison.

Wouldn't mind seeing a deal where he flips 17 for 25 with Green Bay and pockets maybe Green Bay's 2nd RD pick in the process while maybe just swapping their 3rd RD picks around to make the value a little bit better in our favor.
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#39

(01-28-2024, 08:01 PM)Caldrac Wrote: Alternate Preference:

LT - Cam Robinson (After a restructured contract)
LG - Cooper Beebe - RD2
C - Lloyd Cushenberry (From FA leaving DEN)
RG - Robert Hunt (From FA, leaving MIA)
RT - Anton Harrison

I still think Baalke drafts another offensive lineman in RD1 or at least another guy in RD3. Possibly another tackle like Tyler Guyton out of Oklahoma or Jordan Morgan out of Arizona if he manages to trade down and move some things around like he did last year for Harrison.

Wouldn't mind seeing a deal where he flips 17 for 25 with Green Bay and pockets maybe Green Bay's 2nd RD pick in the process while maybe just swapping their 3rd RD picks around to make the value a little bit better in our favor.

You can't restructure Cam, he's only got next year left. If we sign an extension he will be very expensive for average talent. Beebe is tracking in the 140s right now on big boards, so a 2 is very high for him at the moment. I like Cush and Hunt, but both will be pricey.
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(This post was last modified: 01-28-2024, 08:57 PM by SeldomRite.)

(01-28-2024, 08:49 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(01-28-2024, 08:01 PM)Caldrac Wrote: Alternate Preference:

LT - Cam Robinson (After a restructured contract)
LG - Cooper Beebe - RD2
C - Lloyd Cushenberry (From FA leaving DEN)
RG - Robert Hunt (From FA, leaving MIA)
RT - Anton Harrison

I still think Baalke drafts another offensive lineman in RD1 or at least another guy in RD3. Possibly another tackle like Tyler Guyton out of Oklahoma or Jordan Morgan out of Arizona if he manages to trade down and move some things around like he did last year for Harrison.

Wouldn't mind seeing a deal where he flips 17 for 25 with Green Bay and pockets maybe Green Bay's 2nd RD pick in the process while maybe just swapping their 3rd RD picks around to make the value a little bit better in our favor.

You can't restructure Cam, he's only got next year left. If we sign an extension he will be very expensive for average talent. Beebe is tracking in the 140s right now on big boards, so a 2 is very high for him at the moment. I like Cush and Hunt, but both will be pricey.

Cam is nowhere near worth his contract. That it's such a hard choice to just part ways with him is part of why Baalke should be gone.
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