Fred is one of my favorite all time Jaguars.

https://www.jaguars.com/news/hall-of-fam...alist-2023

I wish Jim Brown was still alive to speak for him in front of the panel. I think I would just play his comments and leave it at that.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/p...ylFr00.htm

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Birth of the Franchise - November 30, 1993
Death of the Franchise - November 29, 2011

Fans deserve better. Thanks for all the good times too many are in the past.

No, I don't. I love him and he was my favorite back, but he wasn't the best running back in the NFL any of the years he played. He might make the seniors recommendation because of the body of his work, but there's just too many contemporaries who are seen as better IMO.

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Dude was one healthy season away from having more rushing yards than Jim Brown, yes he deserves it

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He'll eventually get in.

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No, I don't. I love him and he was my favorite back, but he wasn't the best running back in the NFL any of the years he played. He might make the seniors recommendation because of the body of his work, but there's just too many contemporaries who are seen as better IMO.

I know and this makes me sad. That is why I am a Yes but going to take years.

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Birth of the Franchise - November 30, 1993
Death of the Franchise - November 29, 2011

Fans deserve better. Thanks for all the good times too many are in the past.

Taylor gets in next year I think. There's a lot of good candidates this year, and outside of Suggs & Kuechly I don't see any other surefire first ballot HoF's for next years class. I think they try and put Taylor in during 2025 so that when Frank Gore is eligible in 2026 it's free of controversy.

Josh Allen having 17.5 sacks, and still not being named All-Pro is exhibit A for why all the nonsense about accolades and "Fred was never the absolute best at his position blah blah blah" gets washed away. Either the NFL can decide that playing at a high level for many years is worthy of the HoF, or that no player that suits up in Teal for the Jaguars is worthy of inclusion ever. if Fred played for any other franchise, he'd have been in years ago. Edgerrin James just got in, as good as he was Fred Taylor was head and shoulders better and played for less talented teams.

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1) Draft Trevor Lawrence!
2) Play good physical Defense! 
3) Keep 91% of the roster healthy!
4) ???
5) Blank #2
6) CHAMPIONSHIP!!!

Halls of Fame are defined not by who is in, but who is not. Paraphrasing Vic there, but it says everything.

I think today's shield and social aspects will make newer players far more recognizable, albeit not as legendary on the field, and that will cause Fred to remain in relative obscurity. It sucks, but it's the machine we made.

Honestly, I'd like to wander through the hall and whittle out a bunch of the recent nominees. It is Hall of recognizable, not hall of fame.

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I think those 4 games missed in 2002 will haunt him and possibly those 3 missed games in 2000. It would have put him in the 12,000 rush yards range.

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No, I don't. I love him and he was my favorite back, but he wasn't the best running back in the NFL any of the years he played. He might make the seniors recommendation because of the body of his work, but there's just too many contemporaries who are seen as better IMO.

What an odd criteria.
The guys who beat him for the rushing title include Eddie George and Corey Dillon.  Fred should definitely get in before them.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

No, I don't. I love him and he was my favorite back, but he wasn't the best running back in the NFL any of the years he played. He might make the seniors recommendation because of the body of his work, but there's just too many contemporaries who are seen as better IMO.

What an odd criteria.
The guys who beat him for the rushing title include Eddie George and Corey Dillon.  Fred should definitely get in before them.

Place among your peers of the era is a critical part of the selection process and both of them have a better resume than he does. He's in a era of great and accomplished running backs and his place as the, at best, 2nd or 3rd best back every year simply doesn't push him into HoF status. George, Dillon, Martin, Wiliams, Tomlinson, Lewis, Holmes, Portis, Alexander, Edge, Faulk...man the list of names in the years he played make it probably the last great era of running backs. When you list him against his contemporaries he just doesn't crack the threshold for me; the Hall doesn't usually take 10 guys from the same position and the same era/decade, so I just think the odds are really stacked against him.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

I think it will be an eventual thing like with Boselli. Honestly, I'm surprised he has made it as close as he has. Good back for a long time with some great moments, but the team didn't have any Super Bowl appearances. There are too many yea buts.

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What an odd criteria.
The guys who beat him for the rushing title include Eddie George and Corey Dillon.  Fred should definitely get in before them.

Place among your peers of the era is a critical part of the selection process and both of them have a better resume than he does. He's in a era of great and accomplished running backs and his place as the, at best, 2nd or 3rd best back every year simply doesn't push him into HoF status. George, Dillon, Martin, Wiliams, Tomlinson, Lewis, Holmes, Portis, Alexander, Edge, Faulk...man the list of names in the years he played make it probably the last great era of running backs. When you list him against his contemporaries he just doesn't crack the threshold for me; the Hall doesn't usually take 10 guys from the same position and the same era/decade, so I just think the odds are really stacked against him.

You are very accurately capturing the way the Football writers guys work and project. It does make me sad and you are right it is probably the last era of great running backs.

Edit:
I am struck by the old joke...  Who is the only person that stopped Michael Jordan from scoring?  - Dean Smith

Who is the only person that kept Freddie T out of the end zone? - Tom Coughlin

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Birth of the Franchise - November 30, 1993
Death of the Franchise - November 29, 2011

Fans deserve better. Thanks for all the good times too many are in the past.

Funny thing is that I think Fred Taylor (RB) and Jimmy Smith (WR) are going in different directions with regard to the HOF.

The RB position is often now RB by committee and RBs don't last as long as they did before so Freddie T's place in history will still remain high. Conversely, WR stats are getting out of hand with recent rule changes favoring QBs and WRs, so as the NFL now emphasizes scoring, Jimmy Smith's WR rankings will continuously drop at a much faster rate.

Given the above, I think Freddie T will be greater appreciated as the historical RBs will be greater celebrated. As such, I voted Yes, but it will take time.

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I think it will be an eventual thing like with Boselli.  Honestly,  I'm surprised he has made it as close as he has.  Good back for a long time with some great moments,  but the team didn't have any Super Bowl appearances.  There are too many yea buts.

Along those lines, I think it sure does help that Boselli and now Freddie T have increased their current exposure by doing broadcasts and analysis on TV and radio shows.  It helps to keep them in the spotlight.

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Honestly I think even MJD should get it one day - if the dude was a Colt, Raven or Eagle he would’ve gotten way more wins and possibly a SB. Poor guy was on the wrong squad he deserved so much better

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Honestly I think even MJD should get it one day - if the dude was a Colt, Raven or Eagle he would’ve gotten way more wins and possibly a SB. Poor guy was on the wrong squad he deserved so much better

Jones-Drew ranks about where Brunell ranks as a passer.

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I think it will be an eventual thing like with Boselli.  Honestly,  I'm surprised he has made it as close as he has.  Good back for a long time with some great moments,  but the team didn't have any Super Bowl appearances.  There are too many yea buts.

Along those lines, I think it sure does help that Boselli and now Freddie T have increased their current exposure by doing broadcasts and analysis on TV and radio shows.  It helps to keep them in the spotlight.

IIRC though, it's local media. Biggest boost Freddy could get would be Mojo banging the desk for his teammate. National exposure will open a lot of ignorant eyes to what we were lucky enough to see for ourselves.

TBH even if he don't get a bust in the hall, his lookback at Doss deserves to be played on loop among the great plays of his era.

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Snubbed. Peppers, mcmichael, hester

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What an odd criteria.
The guys who beat him for the rushing title include Eddie George and Corey Dillon.  Fred should definitely get in before them.

Place among your peers of the era is a critical part of the selection process and both of them have a better resume than he does. He's in a era of great and accomplished running backs and his place as the, at best, 2nd or 3rd best back every year simply doesn't push him into HoF status. George, Dillon, Martin, Wiliams, Tomlinson, Lewis, Holmes, Portis, Alexander, Edge, Faulk...man the list of names in the years he played make it probably the last great era of running backs. When you list him against his contemporaries he just doesn't crack the threshold for me; the Hall doesn't usually take 10 guys from the same position and the same era/decade, so I just think the odds are really stacked against him.

I think you misunderstood me.
His "place among peers of his era" is questionable based on year to year stats.  Granted.
But he is objectively better than the guys who beat him on those year to year stats though.  He did it for more years, with fewer carries, and inferior o-line support.
If you look at the entire decade of 1998 to 2008, in my estimation, only Tomlinson did it better.  Edge was close, maybe a little better maybe a little worse.  And Edge is in the hall but not Fred.
I just don't think those year to year rankings should mean much.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Gates snubbed for sure

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