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2024 - NFL Draft - Wish List


(03-25-2024, 05:01 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: I've been looking at mid-round defensive linemen that last day or so. One guy I'd love to see in teal is Justin Eboigbe, DE from Alabama. He's the size of Travon Walker at 6'5" and 290lbs, but doesn't have Walker's speed. What he does have though is enormous strength and savvy. As a 5th year senior he play 600 snaps and tallied 7 sacks. He's an anchor on the end of the line with the versatility to play any down position and strength to take on the interior double teams. He'll never be a 15 sack guy, but as 4th round pick he would be a younger, better Smoot for this team. He's projecting as the 124th best player in the draft, so late 3rd to early 5th round is about right and those 2 picks in the 4th would be ideal.

He has the height of Walker but Walker is 272 and Eboigbe is 297.  He is poor athletically but he good be decent depth.  Could be a decent pick up in the mid rounds depending on who is there.  He looked decent at the Senior Bowl
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Would be a good late round pick

https://x.com/ZBlostein247/status/177239...00274?s=20
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(03-25-2024, 05:31 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(03-25-2024, 05:01 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: I've been looking at mid-round defensive linemen that last day or so. One guy I'd love to see in teal is Justin Eboigbe, DE from Alabama. He's the size of Travon Walker at 6'5" and 290lbs, but doesn't have Walker's speed. What he does have though is enormous strength and savvy. As a 5th year senior he play 600 snaps and tallied 7 sacks. He's an anchor on the end of the line with the versatility to play any down position and strength to take on the interior double teams. He'll never be a 15 sack guy, but as 4th round pick he would be a younger, better Smoot for this team. He's projecting as the 124th best player in the draft, so late 3rd to early 5th round is about right and those 2 picks in the 4th would be ideal.

He has the height of Walker but Walker is 272 and Eboigbe is 297.  He is poor athletically but he good be decent depth.  Could be a decent pick up in the mid rounds depending on who is there.  He looked decent at the Senior Bowl

He played last year at 290, he weighed a bit more at the combine. He'll likely be closer to the 290 than 300 as he develops at the pro level if he plays end but can carry another 15lbs if he lines up with the interior. He's a guy who needs the team to decide what they want him to do; if it's pass rush he needs coaching to develop, if it's interior he is already very good against the run and double teams. He's big, strong, and smart...I like that in my linemen.
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So the Saints are more than likely going RT at 14. The Colts have pretty much the same needs as us. The Colts and the Seahawks are the 2 teams between us and the Saints. I dont see neither the Colts nor the Seahawks going tackle so if we traded up with the Saints they could still get their tackle and pick up an extra mid round pick and we can jump the Colts and get one of the top corners or Bowers. If Mitchell or Bowers is there at 14 im trading up with the Saints because they will likely take the guy that we want. Im sure Baalke will have conversations about this with Loomis before draft day and I think its a real possibility we trade up with the Saints depending on how the draft falls. High possibility we trade up with the Saints on draft day imo

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(03-26-2024, 06:30 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: So the Saints are more than likely going RT at 14. The Colts have pretty much the same needs as us. The Colts and the Seahawks are the 2 teams between us and the Saints. I dont see neither the Colts nor the Seahawks going tackle so if we traded up with the Saints they could still get their tackle and pick up an extra mid round pick and we can jump the Colts and get one of the top corners or Bowers. If Mitchell or Bowers is there at 14 im trading up with the Saints because they will likely take the guy that we want. Im sure Baalke will have conversations about this with Loomis before draft day and I think its a real possibility we trade up with the Saints depending on how the draft falls. High possibility we trade up with the Saints on draft day imo
You, and your pipe dream of getting Bowers.:-P Not happening.

And why do you think the Colts, Seahawks and Saints ALL draft for need & not BPA? I keep telling y'all that good GMs know that "needs" change from late April to September.
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(03-26-2024, 07:27 PM)PackersNation Wrote:
(03-26-2024, 06:30 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: So the Saints are more than likely going RT at 14.  The Colts have pretty much the same needs as us.  The Colts and the Seahawks are the 2 teams between us and the Saints.  I dont see neither the Colts nor the Seahawks going tackle so if we traded up with the Saints they could still get their tackle and pick up an extra mid round pick and we can jump the Colts and get one of the top corners or Bowers.  If Mitchell or Bowers is there at 14 im trading up with the Saints because they will likely take the guy that we want.  Im sure Baalke will have conversations about this with Loomis before draft day and I think its a real possibility we trade up with the Saints depending on how the draft falls.  High possibility we trade up with the Saints on draft day imo
You, and your pipe dream of getting Bowers.:-P Not happening.

And why do you think the Colts, Seahawks and Saints ALL draft for need & not BPA? I keep telling y'all that good GMs know that "needs" change from late April to September.

I think he goes top 10 but its a hope.  I have no clue how the Seahawks will draft, we will be jumping them. As far as the Colts, I think if Bowers or Mitchel is there they would be BPA meets need and why I would want to jump the Colts as I think they will take either if one falls.  I think Saints could go Fuaga or Latham.  Most of their fans think RT will be the pick as well, RT could be BPA meets need. Agreed on BPA vs Needs drafting. Im a BPA drafter, why id love Fuaga and Bowers in the 1st
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(03-26-2024, 06:30 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: So the Saints are more than likely going RT at 14.  The Colts have pretty much the same needs as us.  The Colts and the Seahawks are the 2 teams between us and the Saints.  I dont see neither the Colts nor the Seahawks going tackle so if we traded up with the Saints they could still get their tackle and pick up an extra mid round pick and we can jump the Colts and get one of the top corners or Bowers.  If Mitchell or Bowers is there at 14 im trading up with the Saints because they will likely take the guy that we want.  Im sure Baalke will have conversations about this with Loomis before draft day and I think its a real possibility we trade up with the Saints depending on how the draft falls.  High possibility we trade up with the Saints on draft day imo

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clots and hags don't have the same needs as us, they need a TE. TE is luxury/BPA pick for us.

If we're so worried about Bowers, I let one of them take him and let Mitchell fall to us or take one of the big uglies they pass on.

If we covet Mitchell THAT badly, sure, move up and grab him before anyone else does. I think we're in the catbird seat, though. Folks are either going to overreach for middling QB, partake in a run on WR, or take guys that we don't need or want and leave a heap of talent for our picking (or as trade bait for teams behind us).

(03-26-2024, 08:34 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(03-26-2024, 07:27 PM)PackersNation Wrote: You, and your pipe dream of getting Bowers.:-P Not happening.

And why do you think the Colts, Seahawks and Saints ALL draft for need & not BPA? I keep telling y'all that good GMs know that "needs" change from late April to September.

I think he goes top 10 but its a hope.  I have no clue how the Seahawks will draft, we will be jumping them. As far as the Colts, I think if Bowers or Mitchel is there they would be BPA meets need and why I would want to jump the Colts as I think they will take either if one falls.  I think Saints could go Fuaga or Latham.  Most of their fans think RT will be the pick as well, RT could be BPA meets need. Agreed on BPA vs Needs drafting.  Im a BPA drafter, why id love Fuaga and Bowers in the 1st

The hags are the ones that make me nervous, lots of mocks have them looking interior line. JPJ or Barton have been landing at 16, IMO a little early, but again, if they are leaving guys like Murphy, Thomas, Mitchell on the board for us, we're winning whether we take them ourselves or get some extra picks to make mobility in this darft easier.
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(03-27-2024, 08:51 AM)Mikey Wrote:
(03-26-2024, 06:30 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: So the Saints are more than likely going RT at 14.  The Colts have pretty much the same needs as us.  The Colts and the Seahawks are the 2 teams between us and the Saints.  I dont see neither the Colts nor the Seahawks going tackle so if we traded up with the Saints they could still get their tackle and pick up an extra mid round pick and we can jump the Colts and get one of the top corners or Bowers.  If Mitchell or Bowers is there at 14 im trading up with the Saints because they will likely take the guy that we want.  Im sure Baalke will have conversations about this with Loomis before draft day and I think its a real possibility we trade up with the Saints depending on how the draft falls.  High possibility we trade up with the Saints on draft day imo

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1772...1_&ref_url=

clots and hags don't have the same needs as us, they need a TE. TE is luxury/BPA pick for us.

If we're so worried about Bowers, I let one of them take him and let Mitchell fall to us or take one of the big uglies they pass on.

If we covet Mitchell THAT badly, sure, move up and grab him before anyone else does. I think we're in the catbird seat, though. Folks are either going to overreach for middling QB, partake in a run on WR, or take guys that we don't need or want and leave a heap of talent for our picking (or as trade bait for teams behind us).

(03-26-2024, 08:34 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: I think he goes top 10 but its a hope.  I have no clue how the Seahawks will draft, we will be jumping them. As far as the Colts, I think if Bowers or Mitchel is there they would be BPA meets need and why I would want to jump the Colts as I think they will take either if one falls.  I think Saints could go Fuaga or Latham.  Most of their fans think RT will be the pick as well, RT could be BPA meets need. Agreed on BPA vs Needs drafting.  Im a BPA drafter, why id love Fuaga and Bowers in the 1st

The hags are the ones that make me nervous, lots of mocks have them looking interior line. JPJ or Barton have been landing at 16, IMO a little early, but again, if they are leaving guys like Murphy, Thomas, Mitchell on the board for us, we're winning whether we take them ourselves or get some extra picks to make mobility in this darft easier.

If Mitchell is there I think the Colts take him.  I'd be shocked if Mitchell makes it to 17.  TE is still a need for us as we only have 1 good one on the roster.  If Strange improves then it's just icing on the cake but I wouldn't bank on it.  I don't think Murphy fits what we want to do on defense.  He's 6' and under 300 lbs.  I think his teammate, the Outland trophy winner Unanimous All American would be a better fit for this defense. When you have a monster like Sweat next to you drawing double teams constantly it makes life a lot easier. I could see Newton possibility being in consideration but he is a little undersized as well although he's a little taller and bigger than Murphy
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If this staff feels Latu can play with his hand in the dirt as well as he does standing up on the edge, I want Latu if cleared 100% medically. I didn't see it but a lot of sites feel he can do either equally as good. Allen-Armstead-Walker-Latu would be scarry
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Here is a good breakdown of what prospects is best at each category

https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2024-nfl-...y-position
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I just want play makers. I don't care what position.
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(04-02-2024, 07:33 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: https://www.bigcatcountry.com/2024/2/29/...ct-tracker

I don't like that no top WRs are on that list.
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(04-03-2024, 12:46 PM)Dimson Wrote:
(04-02-2024, 07:33 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: https://www.bigcatcountry.com/2024/2/29/...ct-tracker

I don't like that no top WRs are on that list.

They met with Nabers, Odunze, Thomas Jr. and are rumored to be interested in Pearsall. Nabers is argued to be WR1 in this class, even better than MHJ out of Ohio St. Odunze is considered top three and Thomas Jr. is essentially the consensus 4th - 5th best with Pearsall beginning to round out most people's top 8th - 10th range. 

They're trying. This is still a deep WR class. I don't think they have to get one at 17 nor 48. I would be curious what they do with picks 97, 114 & 116. There's potential opportunity there to package up and move up in the draft. Javon Baker out of UCF would be my ideal pick. If they land him I think they'll get the steal of the draft in my opinion.
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(04-03-2024, 12:49 PM)Caldrac Wrote:
(04-03-2024, 12:46 PM)Dimson Wrote: I don't like that no top WRs are on that list.

They met with Nabers, Odunze, Thomas Jr. and are rumored to be interested in Pearsall. Nabers is argued to be WR1 in this class, even better than MHJ out of Ohio St. Odunze is considered top three and Thomas Jr. is essentially the consensus 4th - 5th best with Pearsall beginning to round out most people's top 8th - 10th range. 

They're trying. This is still a deep WR class. I don't think they have to get one at 17 nor 48. I would be curious what they do with picks 97, 114 & 116. There's potential opportunity there to package up and move up in the draft. Javon Baker out of UCF would be my ideal pick. If they land him I think they'll get the steal of the draft in my opinion.

Haha. That's what I get for skimming over it. I love Oduze but I don't think we have a shot unless we trade up.
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(04-03-2024, 12:46 PM)Dimson Wrote:
(04-02-2024, 07:33 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: https://www.bigcatcountry.com/2024/2/29/...ct-tracker

I don't like that no top WRs are on that list.

FWIW:
known/reported interviews in that article -

6 IDL
10+ OL 
12 WR
12 CB


I'd wager big that we see a CB and a WR drafted prior to the 5th round and likely prior to the 4th.
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(04-03-2024, 01:06 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(04-03-2024, 12:46 PM)Dimson Wrote: I don't like that no top WRs are on that list.

FWIW:
known/reported interviews in that article -

6 IDL
10+ OL 
12 WR
12 CB


I'd wager big that we see a CB and a WR drafted prior to the 5th round and likely prior to the 4th.

Agreed. I think they go defense with 17 and 48 and start looking to move back up into RD3 or the bottom of RD2 to nab a receiver. They have a good cluster of three picks within 20 picks of each other. There's a good chance a quick phone call to a team in RD2 late into Friday night could see them sending all three picks to get back inside the top 64. 

If they land a starting caliber CB, a solid rotational EDGE or DT and a WR all within the top 75 - 100 I think they'll be mostly content with what they've managed to do between last year's draft and this year's free agency class. 

Those other picks at 153 and the two in RD7 can be used to take chances on low risk / high reward prospects at OG & OT to ensure Lawrence has some decent depth in front of him pushing the guys they have now.
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Something like this would be ideal for me personally:

17th - Quinyon Mitchell - Get your top CB here with ball hawk ability and sticky man-to-man coverage with zone ability.

48th - Ruke Orhorhoro - Get you a freak athlete at DT here that can hold the point of attack and get after it as a rotational piece early.

65th - Ricky Pearsall - Get your athletic carbon copy of Calvin Ridley that can be worked into the line-up nice and steady on the outside and slot as a move piece.

153rd - Javion Cohen - Solid OG that can start in year 2.

212th - Frank Crum - Mountain of a man at OT that can develop as a swing tackle and potentially start in year 2.

236th - Matt Lee - Underrated C prospect that could be a competent back-up or starter by year 2.

I gave Carolina the 96th, 114th & 116th picks to ensure I landed the WR I wanted more than anybody there in RD3. There's a possibility Pearsall is not even there in real life at 65 but I would go after Javon Baker out of UCF at that point instead if that were the case.

Either way, I am making out good with what I need from this class. I am landing two pieces to my defense to help me with Stroud, Levis and Richardson and I am adding a WR and three big offensive lineman to ensure my depth is steady and competent in 2024 as back-up's and 2025 for sure.
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(04-03-2024, 01:43 PM)Caldrac Wrote: Something like this would be ideal for me personally:

17th - Quinyon Mitchell - Get your top CB here with ball hawk ability and sticky man-to-man coverage with zone ability.

48th - Ruke Orhorhoro - Get you a freak athlete at DT here that can hold the point of attack and get after it as a rotational piece early.

65th - Ricky Pearsall - Get your athletic carbon copy of Calvin Ridley that can be worked into the line-up nice and steady on the outside and slot as a move piece.

153rd - Javion Cohen - Solid OG that can start in year 2.

212th - Frank Crum - Mountain of a man at OT that can develop as a swing tackle and potentially start in year 2.

236th - Matt Lee - Underrated C prospect that could be a competent back-up or starter by year 2.

I gave Carolina the 96th, 114th & 116th picks to ensure I landed the WR I wanted more than anybody there in RD3. There's a possibility Pearsall is not even there in real life at 65 but I would go after Javon Baker out of UCF at that point instead if that were the case.

Either way, I am making out good with what I need from this class. I am landing two pieces to my defense to help me with Stroud, Levis and Richardson and I am adding a WR and three big offensive lineman to ensure my depth is steady and competent in 2024 as back-up's and 2025 for sure.

Yeah I've watched some prospect highlights, not enough yet, but my opinion is starting to come into focus and is similar to yours in the early rounds.  If we make no significant trades, I think we should hit CB, IOL, or IDL in the first two rounds.  If we decide to go OT in either the first or second, I think we should strongly consider getting on the phone to shop Cam potentially to get a pick back in this draft.  I'd like to see someone like Baker fall to our 3rd round pick. I'm not sure he specifically makes it there, but someone at WR with a higher grade/potential has a decent chance to be there I think.  If not, I circle back on WR in the mid 4th with one of those picks hopefully for a guy like Rice.  The draft simulator has him there usually in the few mocks I ran through for whatever that's worth and I like him better than consensus apparently does at the moment.
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