Name me one player we could draft that will start for us game 1, . My point is even with the #17 pick it will be hard for anyone to start. We are drafting back ups this year. They may get to start mid way or later but not at the beginning. Harrison had to start game 1 out of need and thank god the young man stepped in and did it.

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Name me one player we could draft that will start for us game 1, .  My point is even with the #17 pick it will be hard for anyone to start. We are drafting back ups this year. They may get to start mid way or later but not at the beginning.  Harrison had to start game 1 out of need and thank god the young man stepped in and did it.

Mitchell would be a starting outside CB from day 1.

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Name me one player we could draft that will start for us game 1, .  My point is even with the #17 pick it will be hard for anyone to start. We are drafting back ups this year. They may get to start mid way or later but not at the beginning.  Harrison had to start game 1 out of need and thank god the young man stepped in and did it.

CB's: Quinyon Mitchell, Terrion Arnold & Cooper DeJean
OTs: Joe Alt, Taliese Fuaga & Troy Fautanu 
DT's: Jer'Zhan Newton & Byron Murphy II
WR's: Brian Thomas Jr. & Adonai Mitchell

We're picking at 17, not in the late 20's. We started 8 - 3 and collapsed to 9 - 8. In large part, it was due to poor production in the secondary on defense, lack of a presence within the interior due to injuries, poor offensive line play in general due to injuries and a revolving door of line-up changes and a depleted WR room.

Even with the additions through free agency. If you're a general manager and you're not heavily invested with utilizing at least your top 100 picks to land starters? There's something wrong with your process in my opinion. Could make a strong case that our picks at 17 and 48 are both starters on day 1 because the odds of them addressing two of those four positions above are extremely likely. 

Fautanu and Fuaga can also be kicked inside to play a spot at Guard. Thus increasing their odds of starting. It also opens the door of them being able to ship Cam Robinson off for an additional late day draft pick or future pick while clearing a massive cap hit off their books to have more flexibility to get Josh Allen's extension done by July.

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Name me one player we could draft that will start for us game 1, .  My point is even with the #17 pick it will be hard for anyone to start. We are drafting back ups this year. They may get to start mid way or later but not at the beginning.  Harrison had to start game 1 out of need and thank god the young man stepped in and did it.

Any of these WRs or CBs we draft in the first will start.  If we take one of these top tackles Cam is likely cut or traded so they will probably start as well.  If we take Verse or Latu they might not be a starter but they will get enough % of plays, you have to have a rotation on the defensive front to keep guys fresh.

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Name me one player we could draft that will start for us game 1, .  My point is even with the #17 pick it will be hard for anyone to start. We are drafting back ups this year. They may get to start mid way or later but not at the beginning.  Harrison had to start game 1 out of need and thank god the young man stepped in and did it.

So many WRs could and should start over Zay.

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I entertain trade offers first.
Barton for his versatility (although my fear is he's another Little, jack of all trades, master of none)
Murphy
Verse

I have a feeling if these are the top of our board we can either recoup some value by passing on some of the guys to move back and still land the guys we want/need.

Little isn't a jack of all trades, he's a tackle.  I think Barton could be a Pro Bowl level type guard in a zone blocking scheme like we run.  I'm high on Barton but I would take Fautanu over him and I think Fautanu could be our future at LT and can also play G

I don't recall Fautanu being in the list to choose from. My bad.

The way we play Little suggests that while he may have played OT exclusively in college, they see him as positionally versatile. Why else would they line him up at at least three different places along the OL in as many seasons?

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Come on man...

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/nfl-draft...dwi-charge

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If that means we can land him at 116, all the better. Teach the kid to take his fat signing bonus, buy a nice place and stick to drinkin on the back porch.

Also, be sure it's Mich Ultra, take it easy on the carbs, big fella.

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Come on man...

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/nfl-draft...dwi-charge

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Good grief.  Not that DWI was ever acceptable, but driving drunk today with the NIL (for cash) and Uber/Lyft cars (for an easy ride) it's is even more unacceptable nowadays.

You don't look cool climbin into the back of a 2017 Chrysler Voyager. @Image is everything.@

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Come on man...

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I'd consider using one of our 4ths on him, maybe even the late 3rd, but definitely not using our 1st or 2nd on a dumb [BLEEP].

Well I guess that takes me off the board, too.
Not to mention my darft eligiblity lapsed some mumble-mumble years ago...

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The odds of the Jaguars selecting a cornerback seem very high. It would be very interesting to see in what order they rate Mitchell, Arnold, DeJean and Wiggins. Of course, we'll never know for sure.

Seeing as the darft should be about landing the big guys early, I see no more appropriate selection for us than CB.

Maybe we go WR in the second and double down on the whiff!

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Name me one player we could draft that will start for us game 1, .  My point is even with the #17 pick it will be hard for anyone to start. We are drafting back ups this year. They may get to start mid way or later but not at the beginning.  Harrison had to start game 1 out of need and thank god the young man stepped in and did it.

Mitchell would be a starting outside CB from day 1.

This.

If we take an X receiver, probably them too.
@If we take a kicker in the first, I gotta feeling they're the starter.@
DT could be, depending on where Ham is.

There's a chance if you land a powerful LT/RT we ship Cam and rearrange to get the rook on the field, but nothing wrong with a little patience.

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Name me one player we could draft that will start for us game 1, .  My point is even with the #17 pick it will be hard for anyone to start. We are drafting back ups this year. They may get to start mid way or later but not at the beginning.  Harrison had to start game 1 out of need and thank god the young man stepped in and did it.

So many WRs could and should start over Zay.

So many WR could not and should not be the pick at 17, though.

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The odds of the Jaguars selecting a cornerback seem very high. It would be very interesting to see in what order they rate Mitchell, Arnold, DeJean and Wiggins. Of course, we'll never know for sure.

Seeing as the darft should be about landing the big guys early, I see no more appropriate selection for us than CB.

Maybe we go WR in the second and double down on the whiff!

I can't understand why so many people are enamored with the little guys. Every thread on social media and every conversation on the radio is about which CB they take with 17 or maybe they should just take the best WR there. Poppycock, we have to get "bigger and stronger" on the lines or the little guys will not matter a bit, and we had a nice start in free agency, now finish the job in the darft with at least 4 big bodies picked early. Jarrian Jones in the 3rd is every bit as good for this team as taking one of those other guys at 17.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Seeing as the darft should be about landing the big guys early, I see no more appropriate selection for us than CB.

Maybe we go WR in the second and double down on the whiff!

I can't understand why so many people are enamored with the little guys. Every thread on social media and every conversation on the radio is about which CB they take with 17 or maybe they should just take the best WR there. Poppycock, we have to get "bigger and stronger" on the lines or the little guys will not matter a bit, and we had a nice start in free agency, now finish the job in the darft with at least 4 big bodies picked early. Jarrian Jones in the 3rd is every bit as good for this team as taking one of those other guys at 17.

This draft is very deep at OL, WR and CB. Those should be the first 3 positions drafted and honestly, the entire draft. Not sure what order but if it went:

1. Fautanu
2. Renardo Green
3. Javon Baker

I would be totally happy with that.

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Trent Baalke probably gets some OL help early. A huge part of the Jaguars issues are keeping Trevor Lawrence off his back. Also, the run game is hurt by having no OL.

I think we will see more OL taken in the first than people are expecting. It seems a lot of NFL fans think the whole first round will be QBs, WRs, and CBs. Fans always key in on those positions before the draft.

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I can't understand why so many people are enamored with the little guys. Every thread on social media and every conversation on the radio is about which CB they take with 17 or maybe they should just take the best WR there. Poppycock, we have to get "bigger and stronger" on the lines or the little guys will not matter a bit, and we had a nice start in free agency, now finish the job in the darft with at least 4 big bodies picked early. Jarrian Jones in the 3rd is every bit as good for this team as taking one of those other guys at 17.

This draft is very deep at OL, WR and CB. Those should be the first 3 positions drafted and honestly, the entire draft. Not sure what order but if it went:

1. Fautanu
2. Renardo Green
3. Javon Baker

I would be totally happy with that.

I'd be fine with that as well, but I think the 3rd could be better used on a DT. Some good names projecting there and I don't think our WR corps is going to be an issue this year as is.

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Trent Baalke probably gets some OL help early. A huge part of the Jaguars issues are keeping Trevor Lawrence off his back. Also, the run game is hurt by having no OL.

I think we will see more OL taken in the first than people are expecting. It seems a lot of NFL fans think the whole first round will be QBs, WRs, and CBs. Fans always key in on those positions before the draft.

Depends on how the top ten shakes out. There really is a QB need at the top of the draft. The Jets at the 10th spot are an interesting team. People keep linking Bowers there, but, after watching Rodgers get absolutely mauled on virtually every passing snap he had with the Jets and his season end that early in the opener? I am not convinced that they go that route neither. 

Should be the following:

Chicago - Caleb Williams - QB
Washington - Jayden Daniels - QB
New England - I think they actually trade here with Eliot Wolf officially in charge. Potentially with the Vikings for Drake Maye. 

After that though? Between ARZ - TEN? Could make a case for any OT with those teams in my opinion. Especially with guys like Alt and Fashanu.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

This draft is very deep at OL, WR and CB. Those should be the first 3 positions drafted and honestly, the entire draft. Not sure what order but if it went:

1. Fautanu
2. Renardo Green
3. Javon Baker

I would be totally happy with that.

I'd be fine with that as well, but I think the 3rd could be better used on a DT. Some good names projecting there and I don't think our WR corps is going to be an issue this year as is.

The WR room will certainly be an issue for me. They have zero young talent at WR and they can't keep throwing money at that position. They have to get younger and faster.

What if Zay isn't 100% back? Are we really confident in starting Tim Jones on the outside? I love Kirk and Engram in the MOF but they have no one on the outside that defenses fear. Even Gabe is a WR2 with a limited route tree.

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Trent Baalke probably gets some OL help early. A huge part of the Jaguars issues are keeping Trevor Lawrence off his back. Also, the run game is hurt by having no OL.

I think we will see more OL taken in the first than people are expecting. It seems a lot of NFL fans think the whole first round will be QBs, WRs, and CBs. Fans always key in on those positions before the draft.

Depends on how the top ten shakes out. There really is a QB need at the top of the draft. The Jets at the 10th spot are an interesting team. People keep linking Bowers there, but, after watching Rodgers get absolutely mauled on virtually every passing snap he had with the Jets and his season end that early in the opener? I am not convinced that they go that route neither. 

Should be the following:

Chicago - Caleb Williams - QB
Washington - Jayden Daniels - QB
New England - I think they actually trade here with Eliot Wolf officially in charge. Potentially with the Vikings for Drake Maye. 

After that though? Between ARZ - TEN? Could make a case for any OT with those teams in my opinion. Especially with guys like Alt and Fashanu.

Yes, usually multiple QBs in first ten picks of the draft. I am just saying that fans seem to always lean towards their team picking WRs or CBs in the first over OL. I think 8 OL in the first is not out of the question.

Alt
Barton
Fuaga
Fautanu
Latham
Mims
Fashanu
Guyton

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I'd be fine with that as well, but I think the 3rd could be better used on a DT. Some good names projecting there and I don't think our WR corps is going to be an issue this year as is.

The WR room will certainly be an issue for me. They have zero young talent at WR and they can't keep throwing money at that position. They have to get younger and faster.

What if Zay isn't 100% back? Are we really confident in starting Tim Jones on the outside? I love Kirk and Engram in the MOF but they have no one on the outside that defenses fear. Even Gabe is a WR2 with a limited route tree.

Pederson's offense isn't really WR1 dependent dating back to Philly. Having Kirk, Davis, Jones, Washington, and Duvernay already takes up all the spots they need save another outside guy who will likely just play teams all year. It's likely that WR snaps in total decrease this year as they add in more 2 TE sets now that Strange is a year in. I do agree they need a guy, but the guy is someone as a safety net/developmental talent, we already have more skill guys that we have balls for. If they do take a guy in round 1 then I don't think they keep Zay for exactly that reason, that's too much money for a guy who gets maybe 5 looks a game after Engram, ETN, Kirk, Davis and the new guy get theirs.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Seeing as the darft should be about landing the big guys early, I see no more appropriate selection for us than CB.

Maybe we go WR in the second and double down on the whiff!

I can't understand why so many people are enamored with the little guys. Every thread on social media and every conversation on the radio is about which CB they take with 17 or maybe they should just take the best WR there. Poppycock, we have to get "bigger and stronger" on the lines or the little guys will not matter a bit, and we had a nice start in free agency, now finish the job in the darft with at least 4 big bodies picked early. Jarrian Jones in the 3rd is every bit as good for this team as taking one of those other guys at 17.

I agree.  I think there will be some quality CBs and WRs still on the board at 96, 114, and 116.  I like Sinnot at TE in that range and Van Pran might be there as well.  If the draft falls perfectly I'd be hoping BAP when we pick is OL or DT in the first 2 rounds, but it's unlikely that it falls perfectly or that we're necessarily specific position hunting.  Heads exploding over an unexpected selection can be fun to watch in the moment as well.

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Depends on how the top ten shakes out. There really is a QB need at the top of the draft. The Jets at the 10th spot are an interesting team. People keep linking Bowers there, but, after watching Rodgers get absolutely mauled on virtually every passing snap he had with the Jets and his season end that early in the opener? I am not convinced that they go that route neither. 

Should be the following:

Chicago - Caleb Williams - QB
Washington - Jayden Daniels - QB
New England - I think they actually trade here with Eliot Wolf officially in charge. Potentially with the Vikings for Drake Maye. 

After that though? Between ARZ - TEN? Could make a case for any OT with those teams in my opinion. Especially with guys like Alt and Fashanu.

Yes, usually multiple QBs in first ten picks of the draft. I am just saying that fans seem to always lean towards their team picking WRs or CBs in the first over OL. I think 8 OL in the first is not out of the question.

Alt
Barton
Fuaga
Fautanu
Latham
Mims
Fashanu
Guyton

JPJ is definitely on that list as well.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Yes, usually multiple QBs in first ten picks of the draft. I am just saying that fans seem to always lean towards their team picking WRs or CBs in the first over OL. I think 8 OL in the first is not out of the question.

Alt
Barton
Fuaga
Fautanu
Latham
Mims
Fashanu
Guyton

JPJ is definitely on that list as well.

Could put T Jordan Morgan in there as well. Don't see 10 OL going in the first round, but I do think 8 is likely.

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