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Trevor Lawrence: Franchise QB (TL Discussion, Merged Threads)


(06-14-2024, 10:57 AM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: https://twitter.com/Saduars/status/1801413497231663342

(06-13-2024, 10:09 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: That’s not true.

Trevor won’t be a FA until 2031.

His contract won’t kick in until the 2026 season.

https://twitter.com/saduars/status/18014...915L-t18Xg

Some people aren't reading this post apparently.


This is tremendous and should ease everyones concerns about the financial impact to the cap for the next few years
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Will be interesting to see what Jordan Love's new contract will end up being. 

Probable that Love will get a contract similar, but it will probably be a little more lucrative than the Lawrence and Goff contracts.
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What will the naysayers do with this?

https://x.com/DanDGriffis/status/1801651...9fzRw&s=19
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(06-14-2024, 11:13 AM)jagshype Wrote:
(06-14-2024, 10:57 AM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: https://twitter.com/Saduars/status/1801413497231663342


Some people aren't reading this post apparently.


This is tremendous and should ease everyones concerns about the financial impact to the cap for the next few years

Yes this was my original question. Glad it turned out this way for all sides. Has to feel good you are locked in to make 44million a year for a while!
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Another perspective of the deal and a more important one with respect to the rest of the roster.

https://twitter.com/spotrac/status/1801416807141523625
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You’re paying because what’s the alternative? Restart with a new QB? Wait and have him blow up and it cost even more next summer?
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There is no one in the NFL, or that closely follows the NFL, that thinks that Trevor Lawrence is a top 10 QB in the NFL.

Outside of this Jags fan forum, Lawrence is not thought of as one of the best QBs in the league.

Just giving a perspective on reality, cuz sometimes fans lose touch with reality.
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(06-14-2024, 12:17 PM)NFLfandom Wrote: Will be interesting to see what Jordan Love's new contract will end up being. 

Probable that Love will get a contract similar, but it will probably be a little more lucrative than the Lawrence and Goff contracts.

He was really good last year. If he repeats exactly what he did last year or better he's going to be in the running for a bigger contract. He'll probably get close to a $60M per year deal. 

Tagovailoa's situation is now very interesting to watch down in Miami as well.
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Breakdown of the contract puts him well below Burrow and more around Herbert.
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(06-14-2024, 02:22 PM)Protozoa Wrote: Breakdown of the contract puts him well below Burrow and more around Herbert.
Who would you rather have at QB? Trevor or Herbert?

Just asking, don't want to derail the thread. lol.
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A great deal for sure, awesome to lock up TLAW and Josh Allen as cornerstones of the future. Like most fans around here I remember when we were the Hugh Douglas vacation team, a team nobody wanted to play for, never had a QB or identity. This is Trevor and Josh's team moving forward, and we ride or die with it.
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(06-14-2024, 01:41 PM)Caldrac Wrote:
(06-14-2024, 12:17 PM)NFLfandom Wrote: Will be interesting to see what Jordan Love's new contract will end up being. 

Probable that Love will get a contract similar, but it will probably be a little more lucrative than the Lawrence and Goff contracts.

He was really good last year. If he repeats exactly what he did last year or better he's going to be in the running for a bigger contract. He'll probably get close to a $60M per year deal. 

Tagovailoa's situation is now very interesting to watch down in Miami as well.
The Packers plan to get Love's contract extension done before the start of training camp. I don't think he will get a $60 mill per year deal, but I do know that Love's deal won't be one penny less than the deal that Lawrence got.

Why would Love sign for any less?
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(This post was last modified: 06-14-2024, 03:40 PM by Jaguarmeister. Edited 1 time in total.)

Great breakdown of the deal from spotrac.

https://www.spotrac.com/news/_/id/2350/b...-extension

Please read the whole article, but here are a couple of snippets:


Quote:AVERAGE ANNUAL VALUE

One of the bigger headlines sure to be attached to this contract involves the $55M new money average salary, which ties Joe Burrow as the largest in NFL history (for now). But in greater context, the two AAVs remain very far apart.

For starters, Joe Burrow’s extension signed last September was done so in a year that involved a $224.8M league salary cap. Burrow’s $55M represents 24.4% of this figure. Trevor Lawrence’s $55M per year salary now factors into a $255.4M league salary cap - a 21.5% allocation.

Lawrence’s AAV % actually ranks 10th among active QB contracts, sliding in just ahead of Jared Goff (20.75%).

Furthermore, there are only two of seven seasons throughout Lawrence’s contract where he’s scheduled to earn at least $50M per year - 2029 & 2030.


Quote:FINAL THOUGHTS

It’s clear as day that Trevor Lawrence’s negotiations targeted the Joe Burrow contract as its prototype. Many facets of the deal ($275M, $55M per year) match the Burrow contract exactly, while others (rightfully?) fall in just shy ($37.5M signing bonus, $142M guaranteed at signing, $200M practical).

Jacksonville’s ability to get this contract on the books this summer could have huge benefits down the road. Lawrence is entering his age 25 campaign in 2024, meaning he’ll have 5 full seasons before that “30 year old” red flag comes into focus. The Jaguars were able to spread out Lawrence’s $200M of guarantee across all 5 of these seasons, giving themselves more flexibility without having to worry about impacting Lawrence’s ability to max out a 3rd contract.

If all goes well, 29-year-old Lawrence should be walking into his next big contract after the 2028 season, with 2 years, $104.3M non-guaranteed remaining on this current deal.

If all goes wrong, it’s still going to be difficult to make this 7 year, $306.3M contract any smaller than a 5 year, $202M one. It’ll take a Russell Wilson type full salary buyout to walk away any sooner.

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(06-14-2024, 02:59 PM)NFLfandom Wrote:
(06-14-2024, 02:22 PM)Protozoa Wrote: Breakdown of the contract puts him well below Burrow and more around Herbert.
Who would you rather have at QB? Trevor or Herbert?

Just asking, don't want to derail the thread. lol.

Trevor cause he's capable of winning a playoff game. Hurbert entered a way better situation and has had a far better team around him yet has a losing record. Dude pads stats better than anyone.
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(This post was last modified: 06-14-2024, 03:43 PM by rpr52121. Edited 1 time in total.)

So here is the thing. Actually looking at the Spotrac reported numbers.

There is an out after the 2028 season for 0 dead cap. That means the next 5 seasons are for a $202 million with largest cap hit of only $47 in 2028.

Even the 2028 years $46 million is not fully guaranteed, only for injury right now. If he is totally tanks by 2026, you can release him before March 2027 and eat the cap hit in 2028 (which would probably be a tank year anyways if it all falls apart that much), and can be fine going into 2029.

Even say the Jags are fed up with him say after 2025, the $35 million in 2027 and $47 million in 2028 will equal to the tier for NFL's 2nd tier quarterbacks in those year (think like the evolution of contracts for Geno, Cousins, Daniel Jones, and Hurts. That is totally reasonable, and you could easily find a team that will offer some pick value to get rid of him if the Jags really want to reboot at that point.

So my point is that everyone who is not sold on Trevor needs to stop raising the alarm. There are easy outs if Trevor actually busts in 2 seasons, 3 season, or 4 seasons. None of which would completely hamstring the Jags franchise.
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(06-14-2024, 01:41 PM)Caldrac Wrote:
(06-14-2024, 12:17 PM)NFLfandom Wrote: Will be interesting to see what Jordan Love's new contract will end up being. 

Probable that Love will get a contract similar, but it will probably be a little more lucrative than the Lawrence and Goff contracts.

He was really good last year. If he repeats exactly what he did last year or better he's going to be in the running for a bigger contract. He'll probably get close to a $60M per year deal. 

Tagovailoa's situation is now very interesting to watch down in Miami as well.

Tua is one head trauma away from potentially being retired.  They did a good job protecting him last year, but from the team's stand point, that deal would scare the hell out of me even though you pretty much have to extend him.
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(06-14-2024, 03:37 PM)Protozoa Wrote:
(06-14-2024, 02:59 PM)NFLfandom Wrote: Who would you rather have at QB? Trevor or Herbert?

Just asking, don't want to derail the thread. lol.

Trevor cause he's capable of winning a playoff game. Hurbert entered a way better situation and has had a far better team around him yet has a losing record. Dude pads stats better than anyone.
I am no Trevor hater, I think there is a lot of talent there. But Herbert is a step above in my opinion.

In watching Trevor I have seen signs of a very good QB, but not signs of greatness. Not saying he will never show it, but the clock is ticking.
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(06-14-2024, 03:43 PM)NFLfandom Wrote:
(06-14-2024, 03:37 PM)Protozoa Wrote: Trevor cause he's capable of winning a playoff game. Hurbert entered a way better situation and has had a far better team around him yet has a losing record. Dude pads stats better than anyone.
I am no Trevor hater, I think there is a lot of talent there. But Herbert is a step above in my opinion.

In watching Trevor I have seen signs of a very good QB, but not signs of greatness. Not saying he will never show it, but the clock is ticking.

Fair enough, I just haven't been that impressed with Herbert. Feels like his ceiling is Kirk Cousins.
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(06-14-2024, 03:43 PM)NFLfandom Wrote:
(06-14-2024, 03:37 PM)Protozoa Wrote: Trevor cause he's capable of winning a playoff game. Hurbert entered a way better situation and has had a far better team around him yet has a losing record. Dude pads stats better than anyone.
I am no Trevor hater, I think there is a lot of talent there. But Herbert is a step above in my opinion.

In watching Trevor I have seen signs of a very good QB, but not signs of greatness. Not saying he will never show it, but the clock is ticking.
Weird because Trevor is undefeated against Herbert…..

When talking about Trevor, it’s clear to see who actually knows ball and who looks at the stats.
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