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Trevor Lawrence: Franchise QB (TL Discussion, Merged Threads)
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(06-14-2024, 04:15 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:Well, if we are going off 2 wins by Jags against the Chargers as proof of QB greatness, then....bahahaha. Who said I looked at just stats to form my opinion that Herbert is step above Lawrence?(06-14-2024, 03:43 PM)NFLfandom Wrote: I am no Trevor hater, I think there is a lot of talent there. But Herbert is a step above in my opinion.Weird because Trevor is undefeated against Herbert….. Yes, please teach me about football...oh great knowledgeable one. Too funny. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (06-14-2024, 03:43 PM)NFLfandom Wrote:(06-14-2024, 03:37 PM)Protozoa Wrote: Trevor cause he's capable of winning a playoff game. Hurbert entered a way better situation and has had a far better team around him yet has a losing record. Dude pads stats better than anyone.I am no Trevor hater, I think there is a lot of talent there. But Herbert is a step above in my opinion. That is fine. There are outs if the Jags are ready to move on in a few years. This is not at all an albatross contract.
(06-14-2024, 03:51 PM)NFLfandom Wrote: https://youtu.be/EweYZhkK8g8?si=CKoR0Fx4bMo7S25t PeckerNation? Is that you? (06-14-2024, 01:29 PM)NFLfandom Wrote: There is no one in the NFL, or that closely follows the NFL, that thinks that Trevor Lawrence is a top 10 QB in the NFL. I love this team, but we have to admit that the talent around Lawrence hasn’t been top anything until recently? We are hoping our offense line can improve from the bottom ranked to near the top. The drafting has been suspect. All that being the case, it looks like things are coming together for a good year in 24. Hopefully
(06-14-2024, 04:42 PM)rpr52121 Wrote:I think the contract is fine. Trevor deserved it. I just don't think Trevor is an elite QB at this point. I think Herbert is trending more in that direction.(06-14-2024, 03:43 PM)NFLfandom Wrote: I am no Trevor hater, I think there is a lot of talent there. But Herbert is a step above in my opinion. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
(06-14-2024, 03:19 PM)NFLfandom Wrote:(06-14-2024, 01:41 PM)Caldrac Wrote: He was really good last year. If he repeats exactly what he did last year or better he's going to be in the running for a bigger contract. He'll probably get close to a $60M per year deal.The Packers plan to get Love's contract extension done before the start of training camp. I don't think he will get a $60 mill per year deal, but I do know that Love's deal won't be one penny less than the deal that Lawrence got. Take your PackmeNation crap somewhere else. “An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato
Love has played 1 full season and played 1/2 a season of consistently good football. Call me crazy, but I think it's jumping the gun to extend him this offseason.
(06-14-2024, 04:27 PM)NFLfandom Wrote:It’ll take too long to teach you bud.(06-14-2024, 04:15 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: Weird because Trevor is undefeated against Herbert…..Well, if we are going off 2 wins by Jags against the Chargers as proof of QB greatness, then....bahahaha. Who said I looked at just stats to form my opinion that Herbert is step above Lawrence? I think Herbert and Trevor are in a similar tier with Burrow. Mahomes Allen Trevor Herbert Burrow Now that doesn’t mean he’s the 3rd best QB but I would put him top 5-7. You can certainly like Herbert more than Trevor but if you really think Trevor isn’t there yet, you need to watch the All-22. Before his high ankle sprain (that he likely shouldn’t have been playing on), he was playing very very good football. From the Raiders game in 2022- Bengals 2023, he was on an absolute tear. If he doesn’t get hurt, Jags win the division and no one bats and eye. Paying him now is the best thing for this franchise and you will likely disappear like all the other trolls when he takes the AFC South crown back. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (06-14-2024, 05:45 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:(06-14-2024, 04:27 PM)NFLfandom Wrote: Well, if we are going off 2 wins by Jags against the Chargers as proof of QB greatness, then....bahahaha. Who said I looked at just stats to form my opinion that Herbert is step above Lawrence?It’ll take too long to teach you bud. Always find it funny that a new account appears that just wants to bash Trevor. Almost like its one of our regular Trevor haters.... Now it's Herbert who's better. Lol. Well have to make a list of every QB we are told is better than Lawrence! (06-14-2024, 08:30 AM)jaglou53 Wrote: I believe this is great news for Jaguars' fans. Trevor will begin this season with no contract talk distractions. Is he worth that money is not the right question. When compared to just about all other professions, NFL players are all ridiculously overpaid, but this is the world in which we live. Trevor should definitely be a top 5-10 quarterback this season and for the next decade, barring significant injuries. That means the Jaguars should be in the playoff picture every season in the unforeseeable future with at least a shot at making and winning their first Super Bowl. Shad Khan may not be the best owner, but he has made 2 huge financial commitments to the team's best players and this should make every fan happy! Completely agree and I do think them the Josh Allen situation played into this. They let him play a year without getting it sorted and had to pay him more than if they'd sorted it in the summer before. Trevors value is only going one way and when the next wave of QBs get their renewals, especially with the salary cap going the way it is, it will be a very sensible deal for all parties.
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(06-14-2024, 04:54 PM)Jag88 Wrote:(06-14-2024, 01:29 PM)NFLfandom Wrote: There is no one in the NFL, or that closely follows the NFL, that thinks that Trevor Lawrence is a top 10 QB in the NFL. (06-14-2024, 05:45 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:My top 10 NFL QBs:(06-14-2024, 04:27 PM)NFLfandom Wrote: Well, if we are going off 2 wins by Jags against the Chargers as proof of QB greatness, then....bahahaha. Who said I looked at just stats to form my opinion that Herbert is step above Lawrence? Mahomes Allen Jackson Burrow Herbert Love Stroud Rodgers Hurts Stafford Honorable mentions: Prescott, Lawrence, Purdy Trevor is right there, he just has to show a little more. It's no knock to be in a group with Brock Purdy and Dak Prescott. All 3 are very good QBs.
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(06-14-2024, 06:38 PM)NFLfandom Wrote:(06-14-2024, 04:54 PM)Jag88 Wrote: I love this team, but we have to admit that the talent around Lawrence hasn’t been top anything until recently? We are hoping our offense line can improve from the bottom ranked to near the top. The drafting has been suspect. All that being the case, it looks like things are coming together for a good year in 24. Hopefully Gosh I feel so grateful to have your opinion. Or something… Love…LOL… ![]()
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Herbert is overrated. He’s had better weapons than TLaw his entire career and done Jack with it. He’s fun for fantasy football and meaningless stats. That’s about it. Oh but he is better than Tua.
We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (06-14-2024, 06:38 PM)NFLfandom Wrote:(06-14-2024, 04:54 PM)Jag88 Wrote: I love this team, but we have to admit that the talent around Lawrence hasn’t been top anything until recently? We are hoping our offense line can improve from the bottom ranked to near the top. The drafting has been suspect. All that being the case, it looks like things are coming together for a good year in 24. Hopefully That is a fair list
(06-14-2024, 08:15 PM)Newton Wrote:(06-14-2024, 06:38 PM)NFLfandom Wrote: My top 10 NFL QBs: Goff probably deserves to be among the honorable mentions. I just think he is a bit overrated by some. For sure not top 10 like some rank him.
Funny as hell. Make sure you swipe. There's 10 slides. LOL.
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Can we leave the personal insults behind for a while and get back to some semblance of topic, gents? Please, and thank you. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (06-14-2024, 01:29 PM)NFLfandom Wrote: There is no one in the NFL, or that closely follows the NFL, that thinks that Trevor Lawrence is a top 10 QB in the NFL. I can understand why you have that opinion. Let's look at what I am seeing. 2021 ranked # 32 by the NFL.com 2022 ranked # 6 by NFL.com 2023 ranked #10 through week 11 ranked #8 through week 12 ranked #7 through week 13 ranked #8 through week 14 ranked #8 through week 15 ranked #15 at the end of the season. What I see is a QB in his rookie season with a head coach (Urban Myer) that was mailing it in he finished dead last. In 2022 with a competent coach finished #6 in the league. Then in 2023 he was a top 10 QB that tried to gut his way through accumulated injuries (Ankle, Knee, Shoulder and Head) Now since all the rankings are from NFL.com your first statement is false. So you either too lazy to check, just made this poop up or are the one that is reality challenged.
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