@If we sign him to a 275M deal we will be the laughingstock of the league.@

err, get real, tactic doesn't mean same $$$.  We may be able at this point to package an extension with the next 2 years.

...but why would you, knowing the volatility of the position? A lot of wear and injury can happen between today and 2026.

Part of the reason why a lot of RB aren't making big bucks is that they are fairly easy to replace. Not saying that Etienne is a commonplace RB, but in two years if we run his legs off or he gets one wrong hit low we may be looking at a much different Etienne then we are today.

With his position (not him, necessarily), you wait until the eleventh hour to do the deals.

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err, get real, tactic doesn't mean same $$$.  We may be able at this point to package an extension with the next 2 years.

...but why would you, knowing the volatility of the position? A lot of wear and injury can happen between today and 2026.

Part of the reason why a lot of RB aren't making big bucks is that they are fairly easy to replace. Not saying that Etienne is a commonplace RB, but in two years if we run his legs off or he gets one wrong hit low we may be looking at a much different Etienne then we are today.

With his position (not him, necessarily), you wait until the eleventh hour to do the deals.

The Franchise tag for RBs in 2025 is going to be right at $13 million, if they really want him then just tag him until they don't; it's not cost prohibitive to do so. Of course I'm in the Use 'em and Lose 'em camp anyway, just grab a guy from the back half of the draft or UDFA to replace him.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

...but why would you, knowing the volatility of the position? A lot of wear and injury can happen between today and 2026.

Part of the reason why a lot of RB aren't making big bucks is that they are fairly easy to replace. Not saying that Etienne is a commonplace RB, but in two years if we run his legs off or he gets one wrong hit low we may be looking at a much different Etienne then we are today.

With his position (not him, necessarily), you wait until the eleventh hour to do the deals.

The Franchise tag for RBs in 2025 is going to be right at $13 million, if they really want him then just tag him until they don't; it's not cost prohibitive to do so. Of course I'm in the Use 'em and Lose 'em camp anyway, just grab a guy from the back half of the draft or UDFA to replace him.

So you're saying he's the same as an UDFA?

Wow

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The Franchise tag for RBs in 2025 is going to be right at $13 million, if they really want him then just tag him until they don't; it's not cost prohibitive to do so. Of course I'm in the Use 'em and Lose 'em camp anyway, just grab a guy from the back half of the draft or UDFA to replace him.

So you're saying he's the same as an UDFA?

Wow

Teams all over the league are finding quality backs in the 4th round all the way into UDFA pretty regularly these days. 

ETN is unlikely too be matched by collecting talent from that pool - but you can save lots of money by replacing backs rather than re-signing them.  Even if you spend a second round pick on one. 

As much as I like the player - RB is an unwise place to spend extension money in the current NFL.

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The Franchise tag for RBs in 2025 is going to be right at $13 million, if they really want him then just tag him until they don't; it's not cost prohibitive to do so. Of course I'm in the Use 'em and Lose 'em camp anyway, just grab a guy from the back half of the draft or UDFA to replace him.

So you're saying he's the same as an UDFA?

Wow

I like ETN but RB value is nearly level between guys. It's a plug n play position in the NFL and several guys come into the League every year who can do the job just fine. RBs don't make winning teams and winning teams don't need great RBs, that's the modern NFL.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

So you're saying he's the same as an UDFA?

Wow

I like ETN but RB value is nearly level between guys. It's a plug n play position in the NFL and several guys come into the League every year who can do the job just fine. RBs don't make winning teams and winning teams don't need great RBs, that's the modern NFL.

I agree with the general point, but someone like Christian McCaffrey is an exception.  The 49ers offense is built around him being the engine that drives the train.  I actually think it's interesting that the Shanahan offense is starting to counter some of passing first offenses/defenses.  Using a FB as much as they do is definitely an old-school mentality.

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Can we leave the personal insults behind for a while and get back to some semblance of topic, gents?
Please, and thank you.

Etienne would be up there if our line in Jacksonville could run block worth a lick.

https://x.com/NFLonCBS/status/1811011026...mmHHg&s=19

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NFL analyst has Jaguars running back making first Pro Bowl in 2024 (msn.com)

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I like ETN but RB value is nearly level between guys. It's a plug n play position in the NFL and several guys come into the League every year who can do the job just fine. RBs don't make winning teams and winning teams don't need great RBs, that's the modern NFL.

I agree with the general point, but someone like Christian McCaffrey is an exception.  The 49ers offense is built around him being the engine that drives the train.  I actually think it's interesting that the Shanahan offense is starting to counter some of passing first offenses/defenses.  Using a FB as much as they do is definitely an old-school mentality.

Shanahan is just really smart about using the talent available. 

I'd wager that having an elite RB + the most versatile FB and TE in football isn't a product of his offensive scheme as much as it is just him making the most of the talent he's able to acquire. 

I'd not be surprised in the slightest if his offense looks completely different in 2028 after a different crop of talent finds its way onto his roster and he adapts his scheme to them.

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NFL analyst has Jaguars running back making first Pro Bowl in 2024 (msn.com)

If our OL achieves a "solid" level of run blocking, I'd not be surprised at all it ETN received multiple accolades post season.

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I was looking at some stats a couple days ago, and Etienne has the 4th or 5th most rushing yards and rushing touchdowns over the last 2 seasons (2,133 yards and 16 rushing touchdowns). I wanna say he’s 2nd in receiving yards for RBs behind McCaffrey.

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I was looking at some stats a couple days ago, and Etienne has the 4th or 5th most rushing yards and rushing touchdowns over the last 2 seasons (2,133 yards and 16 rushing touchdowns). I wanna say he’s 2nd in receiving yards for RBs behind McCaffrey.

Imagine if that line was even average instead of dumpster fire?

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

I was looking at some stats a couple days ago, and Etienne has the 4th or 5th most rushing yards and rushing touchdowns over the last 2 seasons (2,133 yards and 16 rushing touchdowns). I wanna say he’s 2nd in receiving yards for RBs behind McCaffrey.

Imagine if that line was even average instead of dumpster fire?

He would be challenging CMC for the top dog crown more than likely. With his rookie contract nearing it's end. I expect him to be worked like a dog this year in this offense. I would like to see him be utilized more like an Alvin Kamara type, but, we'll see.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

I was looking at some stats a couple days ago, and Etienne has the 4th or 5th most rushing yards and rushing touchdowns over the last 2 seasons (2,133 yards and 16 rushing touchdowns). I wanna say he’s 2nd in receiving yards for RBs behind McCaffrey.

Imagine if that line was even average instead of dumpster fire?

....we could win with a QB of Brock Purdy's caliber?

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Imagine if that line was even average instead of dumpster fire?

....we could win with a QB of Brock Purdy's caliber?

Yes, and imagine how much better we'd be with our world class guy.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Early on, there were some concerns on the board about Etienne’s durability. Over the last 2 seasons Najee Harris and Travis Etienne are the only 2 RBs in the NFL to play in all 34 games.

Over the last 2 years, Etienne has the 6th most attempts in the NFL, and out of those top 6 he ranks 2nd in ypc with 4.4 behind McCaffrey.

Etienne also averages 8.5 per catch, which is also 2nd in the NFL behind McCaffrey.

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Early on, there were some concerns on the board about Etienne’s durability. Over the last 2 seasons Najee Harris and Travis Etienne are the only 2 RBs in the NFL to play in all 34 games.

Yes, he did play every game last year, but that rib injury looked to have impacted his performance for several games. He's a really good player, it's a shame he's got so little help from the guys up front.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

https://twitter.com/gus_logue/status/182...Ie5OPeqkhg

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https://twitter.com/gus_logue/status/182...Ie5OPeqkhg

Naturally. It's towards the end of his rookie deal. He's fixing to get the Derrick Henry treatment this year. LOL. 

"Hey coach, it's 2nd and 2, can we throw it?"
"No, [BLEEP] you, hand it off to Travis"

"Coach, it's 3rd and 5, can we throw it to an outside target here?"
"No, [BLEEP] you, we're going with a draw to Travis"

"Hey coach, I am tired man, need a breather, can Bigsby spell me?"
"Travis... with all due respect... [BLEEP] off, we're going with a screen pass here on 2nd and 11, it's all you my boy!"

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https://x.com/SharpFBAnalysis/status/182...ffrFw&s=19

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

https://x.com/SharpFBAnalysis/status/182...ffrFw&s=19

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His total yardage was 74.6 yards behind that O line.

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