2022: Team comes from 3-7 and makes it to 9-8. Winning record and 4th seed in the playoffs. Made it to the divisional round and lost to the Kelce City Swifts.

2023: Team comes from 8-3 and finishes at 9-8. Winning record and missed the playoffs.

2024: Expectations should at least be divisional rounds of the playoffs. 10+ wins. Not another 9-8 record for a 3rd consecutive season. Anything less of a playoff birth will be disastrous. 


The primary concern that would halt these expectations would, as everyone has been constantly pounding the drums on, be the OL. Other than that, this team is built enough to run deep into the playoffs.

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5-12 is a lot easier than 10-7.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

A man can dream

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ImATexan

The number 1 goal has always been and always will be to win the division. Once they get in the tournament, anything can happen.

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Step 1 is to win the division

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Going with the over this year. I don't think this year's schedule is as rough as last year's was. I think the tinhorns, clots and tacks will also not have any element of surprise in this division. Everybody knows now that Stroud is legit, Levis has some ability and Richardson is capable of being a Justin Fields / LaMar Jackson type QB mobility wise.

Going with 11 wins this years personally.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

I think we can win the division with 10 wins. The Texans are really good, but they have to play a first place schedule.

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With a GM that continually flushes draft picks 9-8 is looking like the ceiling.

https://x.com/uSTADIUM/status/804150356649410560


Also, shouldn't it be 98% certain it's 9-8, again?

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I think we can win the division with 10 wins.  The Texans are really good, but they have to play a first place schedule.

I think they lose the element of surprise. Teams will start looking at last year's tape and get a better feel for Stroud's tendencies. I think some of us are also downplaying what happened with them last year in our two contests. The first contest was earlier in the year, we had the fluke FB run a kick off for a TD and then Ridley also had some big drops early in that game. One of which was more than likely a TD if he hauls it in. 

That win on the road with them was also good and it's being undervalued in my opinion. Especially with what was at stake still that late in November. We won 24 - 21. They had that pass interference that turned into a TD drive for them that shouldn't have happened to begin with. That was also a game where we were a little bit more healthy offensively. 

It all went downhill on December 4th. This team is better than 9 - 8. It was better than 9 - 8 last year. It just wasn't able to overcome the injuries that Lawrence had racked up playing behind an already shaky offensive line that had seen it's fair share of changes line up wise. Hopefully that's better in 2024. You would think they should be with Robinson and Cleveland starting off together on the left side this summer. You have Morse newly added in the middle, hopefully Scherff is good to go at RG and then Harrison had surgery but should be good at RT. 

I just think there's more reason to be optimistic in 2024. They had a taste of success in 2022, then, they had that bitter taste of what it's like to have success and lose it in 2023. Let's not forget. This team started off 8 - 3. That's nothing to sneeze at. It's easy to see why the freefall happened, the schedule got tougher as the roster got weaker due to injuries, especially to Lawrence with his ankle, throwing shoulder and concussion.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

I like 9-8. Coaches like Tomlin are now making a living off of simply having a winning record (with no recent playoff success)

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I like 9-8.  Coaches like Tomlin are now making a living off of simply having a winning record (with no recent playoff success)

Hard to win without a QB. AFC North is also a tough division. Probably the toughest in the NFL. I think the Steelers could be sneaky this year. Wilson wasn't the problem in Denver. His contract and Sean Payton were though once the team was bought by the Walton's.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

It better be over. Jags owner said he would want his hands on the steering wheel if he was head coach pederson. You better call the plays coach!

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It better be over. Jags owner said he would want his hands on the steering wheel if he was head coach pederson. You better call the plays coach!

I took that as a 'Press Taylor calling plays' warning as well, but we'll see.

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Can we leave the personal insults behind for a while and get back to some semblance of topic, gents?
Please, and thank you.

It better be over. Jags owner said he would want his hands on the steering wheel if he was head coach pederson. You better call the plays coach!

Offensive playcalling is secondary to being  the head coach.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

It better be over. Jags owner said he would want his hands on the steering wheel if he was head coach pederson. You better call the plays coach!

Offensive playcalling is secondary to being  the head coach.

There's some speculation though that Pederson gave up the play calling because he felt he had to be more hands-on with the defense.  And that hiring Nielsen will allow him to go back to calling plays.

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Offensive playcalling is secondary to being  the head coach.

There's some speculation though that Pederson gave up the play calling because he felt he had to be more hands-on with the defense.  And that hiring Nielsen will allow him to go back to calling plays.

Hope so.

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If Doug wanted to call plays he would be calling plays. The last straw in Philly was Rosen demanding that he STOP calling plays and he refused. Everyone wants to stick this on Press Taylor, but Pederson will do what he wants and the offense was NO DIFFERENT when Taylor called the plays than it was the year before. Play selection by personnel, formation, down and distance, run pass mix...all of these things were statistically the same year to year. Everything about the offensive struggles this year were because the line let Lawrence get his [BLEEP] kicked every play. That's it...that's the only issue. Whether that's because they couldn't run block for [BLEEP] or they couldn't give him 2.5 seconds to pass, the line, not the play calls, were the issue. And if that's not fixed it doesn't matter if it's Taylor, Pederson, Reid, or the Ghost of Bill Walsh calling the plays, the offense won't work. If you guys are putting your hopes on Pederson calling the plays and that being the difference then you're in for a huge disappointment.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

If Doug wanted to call plays he would be calling plays. The last straw in Philly was Rosen demanding that he STOP calling plays and he refused. Everyone wants to stick this on Press Taylor, but Pederson will do what he wants and the offense was NO DIFFERENT when Taylor called the plays than it was the year before. Play selection by personnel, formation, down and distance, run pass mix...all of these things were statistically the same year to year. Everything about the offensive struggles this year were because the line let Lawrence get his [BLEEP] kicked every play. That's it...that's the only issue. Whether that's because they couldn't run block for [BLEEP] or they couldn't give him 2.5 seconds to pass, the line, not the play calls, were the issue. And if that's not fixed it doesn't matter if it's Taylor, Pederson, Reid, or the Ghost of Bill Walsh calling the plays, the offense won't work. If you guys are putting your hopes on Pederson calling the plays and that being the difference then you're in for a huge disappointment.

I agree.

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If Doug wanted to call plays he would be calling plays. The last straw in Philly was Rosen demanding that he STOP calling plays and he refused. Everyone wants to stick this on Press Taylor, but Pederson will do what he wants and the offense was NO DIFFERENT when Taylor called the plays than it was the year before. Play selection by personnel, formation, down and distance, run pass mix...all of these things were statistically the same year to year. Everything about the offensive struggles this year were because the line let Lawrence get his [BLEEP] kicked every play. That's it...that's the only issue. Whether that's because they couldn't run block for [BLEEP] or they couldn't give him 2.5 seconds to pass, the line, not the play calls, were the issue. And if that's not fixed it doesn't matter if it's Taylor, Pederson, Reid, or the Ghost of Bill Walsh calling the plays, the offense won't work. If you guys are putting your hopes on Pederson calling the plays and that being the difference then you're in for a huge disappointment.

This is correct.  A few of us that had concerns about the offensive line before the season began. After all it could not have began in a worse way.  Our LT on suspension and most of the rest nicked up from practice with a team coached by a disciple of Jeff Fisher. I sure hope they have done enough to correct this issue. Last year it was almost comical at times.

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

If Doug wanted to call plays he would be calling plays. The last straw in Philly was Rosen demanding that he STOP calling plays and he refused. Everyone wants to stick this on Press Taylor, but Pederson will do what he wants and the offense was NO DIFFERENT when Taylor called the plays than it was the year before. Play selection by personnel, formation, down and distance, run pass mix...all of these things were statistically the same year to year. Everything about the offensive struggles this year were because the line let Lawrence get his [BLEEP] kicked every play. That's it...that's the only issue. Whether that's because they couldn't run block for [BLEEP] or they couldn't give him 2.5 seconds to pass, the line, not the play calls, were the issue. And if that's not fixed it doesn't matter if it's Taylor, Pederson, Reid, or the Ghost of Bill Walsh calling the plays, the offense won't work. If you guys are putting your hopes on Pederson calling the plays and that being the difference then you're in for a huge disappointment.

This is correct.  A few of us that had concerns about the offensive line before the season began. After all it could not have began in a worse way.  Our LT on suspension and most of the rest nicked up from practice with a team coached by a disciple of Jeff Fisher. I sure hope they have done enough to correct this issue. Last year it was almost comical at times.

FOUR left guards over the first half of the season. I don't think we can overstate just how bad the revolving door on the left side was last year at both tackle and guard. Then the worst guy on the line plays every snap, lol. I remember distinctly watching the Falcons game down at Lynch's and when Lawrence threw that beautiful TD pass to Ridley and just got blown up by the DT I thought, "He's not going to last the season that way." Here's the link to the YouTube, it won't play embedded so you'll have to go there. It was a great play for him to dodge the blitz to begin with, but the second guy smoked him. He's a tough kid and hopped right up, but that play was the one where I really thought he wasn't going to survive the season because we were seeing those hits several times a game at that point. No one holds up to that kind of beating in this League.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-gL1KfdGXw

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato