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Biden Out

#21

(07-21-2024, 02:08 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: Good.  Now can we get Trump to quit?

An unprecedented moment in American political history and with the very first response, you make it about Donald Trump.  Yes, TDS is very real.
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#22

(07-21-2024, 02:53 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: He wound up endorsing Kamala when it was reported he wouldn't be doing that late last week.  I wonder if that's a wrap or if they will allow the circus of vying for the nomination by multiple candidates happen at the convention? 

I don't think this changes anything even in the Dem string pullers minds.  I think they'll scratch, claw and even cheat where they can get away with it and try to win still, but I also think they're smart enough to know that's not going to happen and to just get Kamala in the way of the landslide which should end her presidential aspirations beyond this year. 

I bet the Biden family is getting a sweet deal out of this from someone though.

It could be a trillion dollars and it won't matter. Joe doesn't have the health to enjoy it.
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(This post was last modified: 07-21-2024, 03:12 PM by WingerDinger. Edited 1 time in total.)

(07-21-2024, 03:03 PM)Sneakers Wrote:
(07-21-2024, 02:08 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: Good.  Now can we get Trump to quit?

An unprecedented moment in American political history and with the very first response, you make it about Donald Trump.  Yes, TDS is very real.

Ikr? lololol

How can you take people's opinions seriously when it's based off of hate?

(07-21-2024, 03:03 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote:
(07-21-2024, 02:53 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: He wound up endorsing Kamala when it was reported he wouldn't be doing that late last week.  I wonder if that's a wrap or if they will allow the circus of vying for the nomination by multiple candidates happen at the convention? 

I don't think this changes anything even in the Dem string pullers minds.  I think they'll scratch, claw and even cheat where they can get away with it and try to win still, but I also think they're smart enough to know that's not going to happen and to just get Kamala in the way of the landslide which should end her presidential aspirations beyond this year. 

I bet the Biden family is getting a sweet deal out of this from someone though.

It could be a trillion dollars and it won't matter. Joe doesn't have the health to enjoy it.

Jill takes that trillion, divorces Joe, marries Hunter and they both end up in the Betty Ford Clinic within the next 4 years.
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(This post was last modified: 07-21-2024, 03:22 PM by mikesez. Edited 2 times in total.)

(07-21-2024, 02:35 PM)Jag88 Wrote: Republicans want Biden to resign.

He should. Harris deserves a chance to show her leadership given how far gone Biden really is.

(07-21-2024, 02:08 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: Good.  Now can we get Trump to quit?

If only.  Democratic leadership has more of a sense of shame than Republican leadership

(07-21-2024, 02:56 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: I wonder when mikesez and his fellow democrats are going to start regurgitating the "historical first black female president" nonsense?

Joe picked her for that reason. A lot of folks care about that.  I don't.
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(07-21-2024, 03:03 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote:
(07-21-2024, 02:53 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: He wound up endorsing Kamala when it was reported he wouldn't be doing that late last week.  I wonder if that's a wrap or if they will allow the circus of vying for the nomination by multiple candidates happen at the convention? 

I don't think this changes anything even in the Dem string pullers minds.  I think they'll scratch, claw and even cheat where they can get away with it and try to win still, but I also think they're smart enough to know that's not going to happen and to just get Kamala in the way of the landslide which should end her presidential aspirations beyond this year. 

I bet the Biden family is getting a sweet deal out of this from someone though.

It could be a trillion dollars and it won't matter. Joe doesn't have the health to enjoy it.

It's not about him anyway.  His family is an influence peddling crime syndicate.  It's about them.  They got a sweet deal for deciding for him to step down.  

Also, as much as I don't want Kamala to be president for even 6 months, the Republicans are right to call him out about not resigning as well.  He's too frail and senile to preside over another term, but not too frail and senile to continue holding office?  This is exactly one of the reasons why the 25th exists.  They are showing they'll only use it as a political tool and not whether it's in the best interests of the nation which is the intent behind it.  

He's holding on for the pardon powers in his waning days as President which his family will probably also monetize.
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#26

I was going to write Wes Moore in anyway. He should be the Democratic nominee. Maryland’s last two governors should be each parties nominees honestly. Either would be a great president.
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#28

Barry Hussein not endorsing Willy Browns hooker?
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#29
(This post was last modified: 07-21-2024, 05:54 PM by Lucky2Last.)

Republicans are an odd bunch. I always questioned why you would take the debate before the democratic primary. It's not official. Not only that, I can't help but think that the media already had its marching orders to dump on Joe for this exact purpose.

I just love how the party of "democracy" just completely subverted the democratic process, and not only is its base going to accept their nomination, but they are also begging for it. I just do not understand how you people fall for this garbage.
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#30

I already see memes popping up about how Trump is too old to be President now, lol.
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#31
(This post was last modified: 07-21-2024, 06:14 PM by Jag88. Edited 1 time in total.)

(07-21-2024, 05:54 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: Republicans are an odd bunch. I always questioned why you would take the debate before the democratic primary. It's not official. Not only that, I can't help but think that the media already had its marching orders to dump on Joe for this exact purpose.

I just love how the party of "democracy" just completely subverted the democratic process, and not only is its base going to accept their nomination, but they are also begging for it. I just do not understand how you people fall for this garbage.

This is a very interesting point. If that first debate goes down at the time it usually does in September, does Biden still bomb and if he does, the dems would not have had any time to swap him out. It’s so interesting thinking how this could have played out.
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#32

It's only interesting if you can entertain the idea that it was for this express purpose. Why did they even propose the debate so soon?
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#33

(07-21-2024, 06:15 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: It's only interesting if you can entertain the idea that it was for this express purpose. Why did they even propose the debate so soon?

It's beneficial to the Dems as far as time to find a replacement is concerned and it's clear that's why they wanted it to happen when it did for that reason.  Interesting point as to asking why would Trump and the Republicans accept a debate at that time instead of following the normally prescribed debate schedule.  Perhaps the Dems threatened Trump with no debates at all unless he agreed to the June one.  Also makes sense why the left wing moderators were pretty fair handed during the debate.  They had their marching orders.
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#34

(07-21-2024, 03:43 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote:
(07-21-2024, 03:03 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: It could be a trillion dollars and it won't matter. Joe doesn't have the health to enjoy it.

It's not about him anyway.  His family is an influence peddling crime syndicate.  It's about them.  They got a sweet deal for deciding for him to step down.  

Also, as much as I don't want Kamala to be president for even 6 months, the Republicans are right to call him out about not resigning as well.  He's too frail and senile to preside over another term, but not too frail and senile to continue holding office?  This is exactly one of the reasons why the 25th exists.  They are showing they'll only use it as a political tool and not whether it's in the best interests of the nation which is the intent behind it.  

He's holding on for the pardon powers in his waning days as President which his family will probably also monetize.

Exactly and also expect an EO granting citizenship to the people that broke the law to enter our country.
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(07-21-2024, 05:54 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: Republicans are an odd bunch. I always questioned why you would take the debate before the democratic primary. It's not official. Not only that, I can't help but think that the media already had its marching orders to dump on Joe for this exact purpose.

I just love how the party of "democracy" just completely subverted the democratic process, and not only is its base going to accept their nomination, but they are also begging for it. I just do not understand how you people fall for this garbage.

To their credit, the two sides kept the negotiations for the June debate fairly low key. Very hard to judge the sequence of events let alone the motives for that sequence of events. 

I do think it's plausible that some on the Democrats' side knew they had a problem and figured June would be the best time to expose the problem, but I have no idea why the Republicans decided to take them up on the offer.
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#36

(07-21-2024, 05:54 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: Republicans are an odd bunch. I always questioned why you would take the debate before the democratic primary. It's not official. Not only that, I can't help but think that the media already had its marching orders to dump on Joe for this exact purpose.

I just love how the party of "democracy" just completely subverted the democratic process, and not only is its base going to accept their nomination, but they are also begging for it. I just do not understand how you people fall for this garbage.

You know the answer, the uniparty is in full force and on full display.  My biggest frustration is how can intelligent people ignore what is right in front of their eyes?  The signs used to be subtle and one really had to look to connect the dots but now they don’t even try to hide it and still Americans sleep.
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(This post was last modified: 07-21-2024, 06:58 PM by Jag88. Edited 1 time in total.)

(07-21-2024, 06:15 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: It's only interesting if you can entertain the idea that it was for this express purpose. Why did they even propose the debate so soon?

Keeping it simple, the dems were behind in the polls and thought Biden was going to put forth a solid performance while Trump repeatedly did what he did in the 2020 debates. Obviously that blew up on the Biden campaign. Why did the trump campaign agree to it? That’s tougher to know. Perhaps they wanted an early knock out and never thought that Biden would ever pull out as Biden is known for being stubborn.
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#38

America is paying the price for the monstrous Biden lie (msn.com)

...Questions about his health, however, never quite went away. Clips of the President stumbling, misspeaking or appearing visibly confused continued to circulate for the duration of his term, in each case defused by helpful allies across the press, dismissed as “cheapfakes” or labelled “misinformation”...

...The shift in the public perception of Mr Biden’s mental state appears to have resulted in something close to absolute panic within the power structures of Democratic politics. It is possible to deny something that everyone knows, so long as you can maintain the idea that other people haven’t noticed, and punish those who speak out of line.

But this requires a coordination mechanism, and in this case, that appears to have been the idea that Mr Biden represented the best chance of maintaining Democratic control of the White House. The moment that wavered, the message discipline went with it, with a sudden burst of briefing about the President’s health released to Left-leaning organisations which had previously maintained the party line that there was “nothing to see here”...
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#39

The high % of voters who said that Biden was too old to run forced him out. Remember that this might be trump’s problem now. The percentage that said he’s too old could be a factor.
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(This post was last modified: 07-21-2024, 07:08 PM by homebiscuit.)

(07-21-2024, 06:57 PM)Jag88 Wrote:
(07-21-2024, 06:15 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: It's only interesting if you can entertain the idea that it was for this express purpose. Why did they even propose the debate so soon?

Keeping it simple, the dems were behind in the polls and thought Biden was going to put forth a solid performance while Trump repeatedly did what he did in the 2020 debates. Obviously that blew up on the Biden campaign. Why did the trump campaign agree to it? That’s tougher to know. Perhaps they wanted an early knock out and never thought that Biden would ever pull out as Biden is known for being stubborn.

My belief is quite the opposite. No one, I mean no one, who encountered Biden on a frequent basis believed he was capable of a debate. This was an effort of pure, unadulterated sabotage. They wanted him out of the way and the only avenue was to expose him to the world, out of protection of his handlers and the MSM. 

Mission accomplished.

(07-21-2024, 07:05 PM)Jag88 Wrote: The high % of voters who said that Biden was too old to run forced him out. Remember that this might be trump’s problem now. The percentage that said he’s too old could be a factor.

Not true. The argument wasn't about his age, it was about his acuity. Trump is old but he still retains his faculties. Biden is slipping and gaining speed.
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