Hey, if their misreporting led to Miami and GB grossly overpaying their QBs, I am ALL FOR IT

Keep it up, hacks

Trevor had 2 years left on his contract.  They tacked on 5 more years at $275 million.  That makes 7 years at $275 million plus what was left on the last 2 years of his old contract.  

But all the media wants to say is he is getting $275 million over 5 years.  And I bet if I explained it to them, I'd just get a blank stare.

And Tua's contract, as best I can tell, is 5 years, $235 million.  That would be $47 million per year.  

Jordan Love's contract, as best I can tell, is 5 years, $237 million.  That would be about $47.4 million per year.  

They're tacking these new contracts onto the end of their old contracts, which brings the average down, but the agents want to announce as big a deal as possible so they leave out the fact that the new contract doesn't start for a year or two.

The Lawrence contract and the Taylor play calling things might be some of the dumbest whining I've ever heard from an NFL fanbase. And I lived though the '76 Bucs.

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Trevor had 2 years left on his contract.  They tacked on 5 more years at $275 million.  That makes 7 years at $275 million plus what was left on the last 2 years of his old contract.  

But all the media wants to say is he is getting $275 million over 5 years.  And I bet if I explained it to them, I'd just get a blank stare.

And Tua's contract, as best I can tell, is 5 years, $235 million.  That would be $47 million per year.  

Jordan Love's contract, as best I can tell, is 5 years, $237 million.  That would be about $47.4 million per year.  

They're tacking these new contracts onto the end of their old contracts, which brings the average down, but the agents want to announce as big a deal as possible so they leave out the fact that the new contract doesn't start for a year or two.

The Lawrence contract and the Taylor play calling things might be some of the dumbest whining I've ever heard from an NFL fanbase. And I lived though the '76 Bucs.

I agree with the Press Taylor play calling point, in particular.  It's not like Pederson is sitting back and listening to offensive play-calling thinking 'Man what a stupid call, I would have called this...maybe Press will be better in the next game'...for 17 straight games.  Pederson is in charge of the whole team, specifically the offense side as the team is running his offense.  No matter who is relaying the calls to Lawrence, it's his job to take responsibility for the outcome.  The concept that Press Taylor is the 'fall guy' if it doesn't work out is equally silly.

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Can we leave the personal insults behind for a while and get back to some semblance of topic, gents?
Please, and thank you.

The Lawrence contract and the Taylor play calling things might be some of the dumbest whining I've ever heard from an NFL fanbase. And I lived though the '76 Bucs.

I agree with the Press Taylor play calling point, in particular.  It's not like Pederson is sitting back and listening to offensive play-calling thinking 'Man what a stupid call, I would have called this...maybe Press will be better in the next game'...for 17 straight games.  Pederson is in charge of the whole team, specifically the offense side as the team is running his offense.  No matter who is relaying the calls to Lawrence, it's his job to take responsibility for the outcome.  The concept that Press Taylor is the 'fall guy' if it doesn't work out is equally silly.

I think this is the negative aspect of the access we have in the modern world and it just feeds the illusion on expertise. The people who give these opinions know so little and yet are continually so confident in their assertions about contracts, draft picks, free agent signings, coaches, play calling, down to the who is doing what on a minute by minute basis...they literally think they know more about the offense than the guys who built it and are immersed in it all day long every day. When you step back and look at it, it's just laughable. Sadly, it's also replete throughout our society in every industry and every topic of discussion.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

I agree with the Press Taylor play calling point, in particular.  It's not like Pederson is sitting back and listening to offensive play-calling thinking 'Man what a stupid call, I would have called this...maybe Press will be better in the next game'...for 17 straight games.  Pederson is in charge of the whole team, specifically the offense side as the team is running his offense.  No matter who is relaying the calls to Lawrence, it's his job to take responsibility for the outcome.  The concept that Press Taylor is the 'fall guy' if it doesn't work out is equally silly.

I think this is the negative aspect of the access we have in the modern world and it just feeds the illusion on expertise. The people who give these opinions know so little and yet are continually so confident in their assertions about contracts, draft picks, free agent signings, coaches, play calling, down to the who is doing what on a minute by minute basis...they literally think they know more about the offense than the guys who built it and are immersed in it all day long every day. When you step back and look at it, it's just laughable. Sadly, it's also replete throughout our society in every industry and every topic of discussion.

Hehe, among many negative aspects, but I'm not going down that rabbit hole.  From across the AFC South pond, on the Texans forum there's a person who has 'serious questions about Nick Caserio' because he brought in a RB as an undrafted pick that he doesn't like...  If you're questioning your GM for kicking the tires on a guy who very likely won't make the roster, you've convinced yourself that your self-importance is enormously higher than it should be.

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Can we leave the personal insults behind for a while and get back to some semblance of topic, gents?
Please, and thank you.

I think this is the negative aspect of the access we have in the modern world and it just feeds the illusion on expertise. The people who give these opinions know so little and yet are continually so confident in their assertions about contracts, draft picks, free agent signings, coaches, play calling, down to the who is doing what on a minute by minute basis...they literally think they know more about the offense than the guys who built it and are immersed in it all day long every day. When you step back and look at it, it's just laughable. Sadly, it's also replete throughout our society in every industry and every topic of discussion.

Hehe, among many negative aspects, but I'm not going down that rabbit hole.  From across the AFC South pond, on the Texans forum there's a person who has 'serious questions about Nick Caserio' because he brought in a RB as an undrafted pick that he doesn't like...  If you're questioning your GM for kicking the tires on a guy who very likely won't make the roster, you've convinced yourself that your self-importance is enormously higher than it should be.

What's the equivalent of the Modis Building in Houston?

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Hey, if their misreporting led to Miami and GB grossly overpaying their QBs, I am ALL FOR IT

Keep it up, hacks

Trevor had 2 years left on his contract.  They tacked on 5 more years at $275 million.  That makes 7 years at $275 million plus what was left on the last 2 years of his old contract.  

But all the media wants to say is he is getting $275 million over 5 years.  And I bet if I explained it to them, I'd just get a blank stare.

And Tua's contract, as best I can tell, is 5 years, $235 million.  That would be $47 million per year.  

Jordan Love's contract, as best I can tell, is 5 years, $237 million.  That would be about $47.4 million per year.  

They're tacking these new contracts onto the end of their old contracts, which brings the average down, but the agents want to announce as big a deal as possible so they leave out the fact that the new contract doesn't start for a year or two.

Trevor had 2 years left on his contract.  They tacked on 5 more years at $275 million.  That makes 7 years at $275 million plus what was left on the last 2 years of his old contract.  

But all the media wants to say is he is getting $275 million over 5 years.  And I bet if I explained it to them, I'd just get a blank stare.

And Tua's contract, as best I can tell, is 5 years, $235 million.  That would be $47 million per year.  

Jordan Love's contract, as best I can tell, is 5 years, $237 million.  That would be about $47.4 million per year.  

They're tacking these new contracts onto the end of their old contracts, which brings the average down, but the agents want to announce as big a deal as possible so they leave out the fact that the new contract doesn't start for a year or two.

The Lawrence contract and the Taylor play calling things might be some of the dumbest whining I've ever heard from an NFL fanbase. And I lived though the '76 Bucs.

Plus the fact that none of them actually look to realize that it is only $138 over the next 5 years, and the Jags can cut him for zero dead cap hit after 2028 if they need to.

Heck in the worse case, they can cut him after 2027 for only $7.5 dead cap and having only paid him $91 over those prior 4 years.

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I still see idiots on Twitter saying that "Press Taylor's offense is too horizontal"

Ummmm, That's Pederson's offense and it has always had a ton of that stuff including the year it won the super bowl.

Blows my mind that fans can't understand how minimal Taylor's role is and that they haven't bothered to understand the efficiency barely changed at all between 2022 and 2023.

Anyway...

Here's Trevor with a TOUCH pass. There are still fans saying he can't make touch passes too BTW


https://twitter.com/Jaguars/status/1818319708636266661

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The Lawrence contract and the Taylor play calling things might be some of the dumbest whining I've ever heard from an NFL fanbase. And I lived though the '76 Bucs.

I agree with the Press Taylor play calling point, in particular.  It's not like Pederson is sitting back and listening to offensive play-calling thinking 'Man what a stupid call, I would have called this...maybe Press will be better in the next game'...for 17 straight games.  Pederson is in charge of the whole team, specifically the offense side as the team is running his offense.  No matter who is relaying the calls to Lawrence, it's his job to take responsibility for the outcome.  The concept that Press Taylor is the 'fall guy' if it doesn't work out is equally silly.

Most coaches will scapegoat a coordinator before offering up their own neck, though. Hopefully we don't have to answer the question of whether Doug will or won't.

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I think this is the negative aspect of the access we have in the modern world and it just feeds the illusion on expertise. The people who give these opinions know so little and yet are continually so confident in their assertions about contracts, draft picks, free agent signings, coaches, play calling, down to the who is doing what on a minute by minute basis...they literally think they know more about the offense than the guys who built it and are immersed in it all day long every day. When you step back and look at it, it's just laughable. Sadly, it's also replete throughout our society in every industry and every topic of discussion.

Hehe, among many negative aspects, but I'm not going down that rabbit hole.  From across the AFC South pond, on the Texans forum there's a person who has 'serious questions about Nick Caserio' because he brought in a RB as an undrafted pick that he doesn't like...  If you're questioning your GM for kicking the tires on a guy who very likely won't make the roster, you've convinced yourself that your self-importance is enormously higher than it should be.

TIL, TMD is frequenting the tinhorn board.

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I agree with the Press Taylor play calling point, in particular.  It's not like Pederson is sitting back and listening to offensive play-calling thinking 'Man what a stupid call, I would have called this...maybe Press will be better in the next game'...for 17 straight games.  Pederson is in charge of the whole team, specifically the offense side as the team is running his offense.  No matter who is relaying the calls to Lawrence, it's his job to take responsibility for the outcome.  The concept that Press Taylor is the 'fall guy' if it doesn't work out is equally silly.

Most coaches will scapegoat a coordinator before offering up their own neck, though. Hopefully we don't have to answer the question of whether Doug will or won't.

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Hehe, among many negative aspects, but I'm not going down that rabbit hole.  From across the AFC South pond, on the Texans forum there's a person who has 'serious questions about Nick Caserio' because he brought in a RB as an undrafted pick that he doesn't like...  If you're questioning your GM for kicking the tires on a guy who very likely won't make the roster, you've convinced yourself that your self-importance is enormously higher than it should be.

TIL, TMD is frequenting the tinhorn board.

I gotta believe his ID over there is The Mad Cow.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

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He was a little rusty and has wore off the rust.  If the online holds up Trev is going to have a career year

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He was a little rusty and has wore off the rust.  If the online holds up Trev is going to have a career year

How many practices have you attended? Why won't you tell us so we can validate that you have a clue what you're talking about? 1? 2? 5? How many passes have you watched in person?

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I never understood what the hell a coach is talking about when he says, "I challenged them."  Do they just walk up to the guys and say, "I challenge you guys to play better" and it works, and they play better?  I hear this all the time, and it seems like bull [BLEEP] to me.

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I never understood what the hell a coach is talking about when he says, "I challenged them."  Do they just walk up to the guys and say, "I challenge you guys to play better" and it works, and they play better?  I hear this all the time, and it seems like bull [BLEEP] to me.

Double-dog dares are powerful motivators.

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I never understood what the hell a coach is talking about when he says, "I challenged them."  Do they just walk up to the guys and say, "I challenge you guys to play better" and it works, and they play better?  I hear this all the time, and it seems like bull [BLEEP] to me.

I agree with you on the 'challenge them to be better' is vague nonsense but some coaches find the right ways to motivate their team. My favourite may be Gruden at Tampa. When he joined Warren Sapp said the D was elite so didn't have to worry. Gruden said they weren't elite as they shut teams down but elite D's score points. He challenged them to score 9 TD's to prove they were elite. They got the 9th defensive TD in the SB and if you watch the clip, every player on that D is doing everything to get that TD. That's how you challenge players to be even better.

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He was a little rusty and has wore off the rust.  If the online holds up Trev is going to have a career year

How many practices have you attended? Why won't you tell us so we can validate that you have a clue what you're talking about? 1? 2? 5? How many passes have you watched in person?

I'm in Pensacola, I haven't watched any.  I get the play by play and the reports from the guys that are there.  It's not that hard to find.  Try following John Shipley, Jamal St Cyr, Demetrius Havey, and Jordan DeLugo and you can find out what's going on in camp daily.  There are youtube videos as well like Locked on Jaguars and DeLugo.  I didn't think I had to explain this to you and teach you how to find out whats going on in camp but it's not shocking that I do.

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How many practices have you attended? Why won't you tell us so we can validate that you have a clue what you're talking about? 1? 2? 5? How many passes have you watched in person?

I'm in Pensacola, I haven't watched any.  I get the play by play and the reports from the guys that are there.  It's not that hard to find.  Try following John Shipley, Jamal St Cyr, Demetrius Havey, and Jordan DeLugo and you can find out what's going on in camp daily.  There are youtube videos as well like Locked on Jaguars and DeLugo.  I didn't think I had to explain this to you and teach you how to find out whats going on in camp but it's not shocking that I do.

Ash...so you're just parroting then. Explains much about why your posts are always so..off.
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I'm in Pensacola, I haven't watched any.  I get the play by play and the reports from the guys that are there.  It's not that hard to find.  Try following John Shipley, Jamal St Cyr, Demetrius Havey, and Jordan DeLugo and you can find out what's going on in camp daily.  There are youtube videos as well like Locked on Jaguars and DeLugo.  I didn't think I had to explain this to you and teach you how to find out whats going on in camp but it's not shocking that I do.

Ash...so you're just parroting then. Explains much about why your posts are always so..off.
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Me as well as others are always teaching you something.  Now you can find out wants happening in camp.

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Meh, means about as much to me as the bad [BLEEP] at the beginning of camp.  We won't know anything for real until the season starts.  Pre-season is pretty meaningless as well.  Vanilla playbooks, guys playing together that probably won't be in season, rookies learning the playbook...blah, blah blah.  

All I hope for out of preseason is no significant injuries.

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Ash...so you're just parroting then. Explains much about why your posts are always so..off.
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Me as well as others are always teaching you something.  Now you can find out wants happening in camp.

All you teach is poor grammar.

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