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(08-08-2024, 03:12 AM)Jag88 Wrote: Haley said the first party to dump their older candidate would win. She might be on to something. Polling showed voters did not want the rematch. They didn’t want Biden or Trump. Also, Trump is beating himself at the moment.

He's too stupid to keep his mouth shut and it may cost him the election.

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(08-08-2024, 03:27 AM)KodiakJag Wrote:
(08-08-2024, 03:12 AM)Jag88 Wrote: Haley said the first party to dump their older candidate would win. She might be on to something. Polling showed voters did not want the rematch. They didn’t want Biden or Trump. Also, Trump is beating himself at the moment.

He's too stupid to keep his mouth shut and it may cost him the election.

Trump doing himself no favors in Georgia

For sure. It was a dumb and self-defeating outburst.
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(08-08-2024, 05:13 AM)homebiscuit Wrote:
(08-08-2024, 03:27 AM)KodiakJag Wrote: He's too stupid to keep his mouth shut and it may cost him the election.

Trump doing himself no favors in Georgia

For sure. It was a dumb and self-defeating outburst.

Trump had a fleeting moment of sounding Presidential.  Then he reverted to type with the ALL CAPS rants.
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(08-08-2024, 05:13 AM)homebiscuit Wrote:
(08-08-2024, 03:27 AM)KodiakJag Wrote: He's too stupid to keep his mouth shut and it may cost him the election.

Trump doing himself no favors in Georgia

For sure. It was a dumb and self-defeating outburst.

And not the first nor last time…
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(08-08-2024, 12:28 AM)p_rushing Wrote: More and more lies are coming out. The stolen valor stuff isn't illegal unless we find out he has lied about receiving metals. He seems to be heavily connected and influenced by CCP. He appears to have no assets, investments, etc and his wife is the same. This doesn't include anything hidden in China, family accounts, etc. The pedophile law changes are terrible. While he isn't Jewish, there are connections so that may cause problems. I'm sure there is more out there.

If they vetted him, then it shows they had no other options. I don't see how someone so uninspiring get picked when you already have a dead weight at the top.


If the stolen valor is just the tip of the iceberg, I don't know if he can make it to the convention. Maybe this is how Biden comes back and then picks Shapiro for VP.

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There's actually a video lolol

https://twitter.com/bonchieredstate/stat...xWHCA&s=19
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Kamela has yet to define any of her policies. I look at what a person does as well as what they say. Then come up with a say-do ratio. So far Kamela's is very very low.
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(08-08-2024, 09:02 AM)Jag149 Wrote: Kamela has yet to define any of her policies. I look at what a person does as well as what they say. Then come up with a say-do ratio. So far Kamela's is very very low.

It is always smart for a politician to not be specific about what they would do if they are elected.  It's like I said before, all she has to do is smile and give canned speeches.  Most people don't want Trump.  Trump was winning against Biden because Biden was even more unpopular than Trump.  The key to Kamala getting elected is to just not be Trump.  And don't say anything that would alienate anybody.

And by the way, public opinion polls show that it's working.  Even Fox News has her pulling ahead.

Harris takes 3-point lead over Trump as she gains on key issues: poll | Fox News

Harris takes 4-point lead over Trump as favorability rating suddenly surges, poll finds | Fox News
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(08-08-2024, 10:11 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(08-08-2024, 09:02 AM)Jag149 Wrote: Kamela has yet to define any of her policies. I look at what a person does as well as what they say. Then come up with a say-do ratio. So far Kamela's is very very low.

It is always smart for a politician to not be specific about what they would do if they are elected.  It's like I said before, all she has to do is smile and give canned speeches.  Most people don't want Trump.  Trump was winning against Biden because Biden was even more unpopular than Trump.  The key to Kamala getting elected is to just not be Trump.  And don't say anything that would alienate anybody.

And by the way, public opinion polls show that it's working.  Even Fox News has her pulling ahead.

Harris takes 3-point lead over Trump as she gains on key issues: poll | Fox News

From the article. Buuuhhhahhwwwhhaaa!!

The poll, conducted by NPR, PBS and Marist, found Harris leading Trump 51% to 48%, but clarified that the difference is within the margin of error. Harris has also narrowed Trump's lead on key issues like the economy.

It's the highlighted above that makes this poll laughable.
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Democrats don't disclose anything. That's how we ended up with that scam of a health insurance called ObamaCare..

"We have to pass it before we can find out what's in it."
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(08-08-2024, 10:23 AM)Jagwired Wrote:
(08-08-2024, 10:11 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: It is always smart for a politician to not be specific about what they would do if they are elected.  It's like I said before, all she has to do is smile and give canned speeches.  Most people don't want Trump.  Trump was winning against Biden because Biden was even more unpopular than Trump.  The key to Kamala getting elected is to just not be Trump.  And don't say anything that would alienate anybody.

And by the way, public opinion polls show that it's working.  Even Fox News has her pulling ahead.

Harris takes 3-point lead over Trump as she gains on key issues: poll | Fox News

From the article. Buuuhhhahhwwwhhaaa!!

The poll, conducted by NPR, PBS and Marist, found Harris leading Trump 51% to 48%, but clarified that the difference is within the margin of error. Harris has also narrowed Trump's lead on key issues like the economy.

It's the highlighted above that makes this poll laughable.

Most public opinion polls have her pulling even or ahead.  So, laugh now, cry in November, unless something changes.

National : President: general election : 2024 Polls | FiveThirtyEight
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(08-08-2024, 10:32 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(08-08-2024, 10:23 AM)Jagwired Wrote: From the article. Buuuhhhahhwwwhhaaa!!

The poll, conducted by NPR, PBS and Marist, found Harris leading Trump 51% to 48%, but clarified that the difference is within the margin of error. Harris has also narrowed Trump's lead on key issues like the economy.

It's the highlighted above that makes this poll laughable.

Most public opinion polls have her pulling even or ahead.  So, laugh now, cry in November, unless something changes.

National : President: general election : 2024 Polls | FiveThirtyEight
I ask this in all seriousness. How do you think most of the polls are conducted? Do they contact the respondents or do the respondents seek out the survey?
I ask only because I have been a registered voter, retired military, long time business owner and have never once been contacted for a poll. I find that very odd.
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(08-08-2024, 10:40 AM)Jagwired Wrote:
(08-08-2024, 10:32 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: Most public opinion polls have her pulling even or ahead.  So, laugh now, cry in November, unless something changes.

National : President: general election : 2024 Polls | FiveThirtyEight
I ask this in all seriousness. How do you think most of the polls are conducted? Do they contact the respondents or do the respondents seek out the survey?
I ask only because I have been a registered voter, retired military, long time business owner and have never once been contacted for a poll. I find that very odd.

You can't have a legitimate poll where the respondents seek out the survey.  That wouldn't lead to a valid sample.  You have to construct the sample correctly, which means the right ratio of Democrats, Republicans, and Independents, and the right ratio of other factors like race and sex, and then you have to figure out who's actually going to vote.  It's not easy to do.  But the pollster has to contact the respondents, not the other way around.  

I've never been contacted for a poll, either, but since there are about 210 million registered voters in the United States, the odds are pretty remote that they would call you or me.  

I took statistics in college, and I remember that 1,000 people can be a very good sample if the sample is truly random.  The problems come in when you construct your sample.
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(08-08-2024, 10:11 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(08-08-2024, 09:02 AM)Jag149 Wrote: Kamela has yet to define any of her policies. I look at what a person does as well as what they say. Then come up with a say-do ratio. So far Kamela's is very very low.

It is always smart for a politician to not be specific about what they would do if they are elected.  It's like I said before, all she has to do is smile and give canned speeches.  Most people don't want Trump.  Trump was winning against Biden because Biden was even more unpopular than Trump.  The key to Kamala getting elected is to just not be Trump.  And don't say anything that would alienate anybody.

And by the way, public opinion polls show that it's working.  Even Fox News has her pulling ahead.

Harris takes 3-point lead over Trump as she gains on key issues: poll | Fox News

Harris takes 4-point lead over Trump as favorability rating suddenly surges, poll finds | Fox News

He would much rather have someone obfuscate their intentions than lie about the size of their hands...
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(08-08-2024, 10:49 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote:
(08-08-2024, 10:11 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: It is always smart for a politician to not be specific about what they would do if they are elected.  It's like I said before, all she has to do is smile and give canned speeches.  Most people don't want Trump.  Trump was winning against Biden because Biden was even more unpopular than Trump.  The key to Kamala getting elected is to just not be Trump.  And don't say anything that would alienate anybody.

And by the way, public opinion polls show that it's working.  Even Fox News has her pulling ahead.

Harris takes 3-point lead over Trump as she gains on key issues: poll | Fox News

Harris takes 4-point lead over Trump as favorability rating suddenly surges, poll finds | Fox News

He would much rather have someone obfuscate their intentions than lie about the size of their hands...

I didn't say I prefer that.  I just said that's how she can win.  And it's working.

People often ignore issues when they vote, and instead go for the candidate they like the most.  She's winning on likeability.  Smile, wave, act happy, while Trump tweets his 3AM tantrums in all caps.  It's quite a contrast.
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(08-08-2024, 07:40 AM)WingerDinger Wrote:
(08-08-2024, 12:28 AM)p_rushing Wrote: More and more lies are coming out. The stolen valor stuff isn't illegal unless we find out he has lied about receiving metals. He seems to be heavily connected and influenced by CCP. He appears to have no assets, investments, etc and his wife is the same. This doesn't include anything hidden in China, family accounts, etc. The pedophile law changes are terrible. While he isn't Jewish, there are connections so that may cause problems. I'm sure there is more out there.

If they vetted him, then it shows they had no other options. I don't see how someone so uninspiring get picked when you already have a dead weight at the top.


If the stolen valor is just the tip of the iceberg, I don't know if he can make it to the convention. Maybe this is how Biden comes back and then picks Shapiro for VP.

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There's actually a video lolol

https://x.com/bonchieredstate/status/182...xWHCA&s=19
Greg Kelly, Newsmax, tweeted he is now in violation of the stolen valor act.

https://twitter.com/gregkellyusa/status/...0503409804

Most of the act deals with medals and awards but there could be a way to charge him with lying about being in a war.

It would be hilarious to see this piece of crap have to drop out, resign, and be homeless by the end of the week. If you didn't know, he and his wife have no assets and sold their house when they became governor.

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(08-08-2024, 10:26 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: Democrats don't disclose anything. That's how we ended up with that scam of a health insurance called ObamaCare..

"We have to pass it before we can find out what's in it."

The ironic thing is enrollment has soured in the Red States as they fear Trump is going to repeal it.  Perhaps if republicans don't like it they shouldn't sign up for it.  I guess the taxpayers will continue to pay for those republicans who are complaining about Obamacare, but don't hesitate to take advantage of the system.

https://www.axios.com/2024/01/24/obamaca...can-states

Would you also like me to provide some data on the lame duck farmers in the Red States who obtain government subsidies and don't even have active farms that produce any products?

Instead of complaining, just recognize the fact that your party is equally taking advantage of the system....

(08-08-2024, 09:02 AM)Jag149 Wrote: Kamela has yet to define any of her policies. I look at what a person does as well as what they say. Then come up with a say-do ratio. So far Kamela's is very very low.

So what are the stats of your say-do ratio?  Can you please provide your line item breakdown of each candidate?
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(This post was last modified: 08-08-2024, 11:46 AM by Jag88. Edited 2 times in total.)

Besides polls, I would be focusing on how excited the voters are to get out and vote. When it was Biden, the dems were not motivated at all. How much more are they now? It looks like way more motivated. As far as the polls, it’s all about Wisconsin, Michigan. And Pennsylvania. If Harris starts to grow a significant lead here, it will be panic time for some.
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(08-08-2024, 11:44 AM)Jag88 Wrote: Besides polls, I would be focusing on how excited the voters are to get out and vote. When it was Biden, the dems were not motivated at all. How much more are they now? It looks like way more motivated. As far as the polls, it’s all about Wisconsin, Michigan. And Pennsylvania. If Harris starts to grow a significant lead here, it will be panic time for some.

When you control the majority of media, it would seem like that.
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(08-08-2024, 11:44 AM)Jag88 Wrote: Besides polls, I would be focusing on how excited the voters are to get out and vote. When it was Biden, the dems were not motivated at all. How much more are they now? It looks like way more motivated. As far as the polls, it’s all about Wisconsin, Michigan. And Pennsylvania. If Harris starts to grow a significant lead here, it will be panic time for some.

That’s understandable for a political party whose beliefs center around race and gender.
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