Dude!  I have been out of the service almost 40 years and I know what rank I got out as.  I bet everyone else of sound mind  that served does too.  I can also tell you the order from top to bottom.

This. Exactly. No one forgets what rank they were at retirement unless they have alzheimer's or something else that has robbed them of their faculties. Dude has been lying about it forever and that constitutes stolen valor. Period.

Sounds bad. He might have a bit of braggadocio or delusions of grandeur.  Definitely have to vote for Trump now, can't have anyone who exaggerates their accomplishments like that in office.. thank you for helping me see the light!

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Has he ever claimed a 'I misspoke' defense?  Honest question.

Trump can not make mistakes.   When things around him go wrong, it is only because we let him down.  All praise to 45!

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I think I'm finally catching up to the OP.
Is this about how Tim Walz said he was one rank in the National Guard but was actually one rank down?
It's not like he wasn't in the NG at all.  He was in, just lower ranking.  Who cares? I can't recite the ranks in order, and I bet most guardsmen can't either.

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Dude!  I have been out of the service almost 40 years and I know what rank I got out as.  I bet everyone else of sound mind  that served does too.  I can also tell you the order from top to bottom.

Were you in the NG or were you full time? You agree it may be harder to remember details if it wasn't your every-day job title.
Politifact says that he received the promotion but then filed for retirement benefits at the lower ranking because he had not been in the higher ranking for long enough.
I don't know if that's how it works.
Also not sure if I care.

You can be prompted without completing all the requirements ahead of time. It happens a lot. He was not qualified for retirement benefits at his current rank, so he was demoted to his qualified rank at retirement. This means the second he was retired, he no longer had that rank. He can claim at retirement he was X but he can't say he is a retired X. He knows what he was doing and he inflated his rank for political gain.

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He was promoted to Command Sgt Major, but it required a 2-year commitment, iirc. After he found out they were being deployed, he put in his retirement, meaning he didn't fulfill the time component of his contract. He was demoted back to his prior rank upon leaving the service. Regardless, any military person here knows you don't get to claim your highest rank. If you were demoted, you were demoted. Period.

Geez, Mikey. I can't believe how badly you carry water for these losers.

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Mike the gaslighting from you is pure cringe. You should apply for a job at msnbc or CNN. They would love you there. Fully indoctrinated. It is like you are allergic to logic You have a serious case of TDS.

Biden and Harris are running this country into the ground I do not care about your parties obsession with pronouns, gender, and race. The Democratic policies are killing the lower and middle class. The gaslighting from the media like she is going to fix the border or fix the economy. She is saying that while in charge now and one of the major reasons why.

Keep sniffing the BS they keep feeding you. The results do not lie and Harris is already a major part of this failed administration.

In fact, I would bet a thousand dollars the Biden /Harris presidency will go down as one of the worst in American history Just the border alone has: hurt American jobs, increase rental cost, stretched social services including the health care industry thin, along with so many factors.

Maybe you are one of the lucky ones that are doing well and you have the luxury to harp on every word Trump says. I care about his put Americans first policies.

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Honest question: if Walz didn't have this problem, but instead JD Vance was claiming to be one rank higher than he actually was, would you vote for Harris?

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Honest question: if Walz didn't have this problem, but instead JD Vance was claiming to be one rank higher than he actually was, would you vote for Harris?

Trump never would have picked someone like Walz because Trump isn't low chatacter or stupid like Harris.

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Honest question: if Walz didn't have this problem, but instead JD Vance was claiming to be one rank higher than he actually was, would you vote for Harris?

In your scenario did JD also let the city he governed be burnt down, did he let violent criminals run the streets demolishing thousands of hard working peoples businesses completely scot- free, did he put tampons in the boys bathrooms, is he a drunk, does he promote the mutilation of children?

Point being of course, his stolen valor, while huge is only one of his many disqualifying actions.

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Honest question: if Walz didn't have this problem, but instead JD Vance was claiming to be one rank higher than he actually was, would you vote for Harris?

Trump never would have picked someone like Walz because Trump isn't low chatacter or stupid like Harris.

Trump isn't low character?  That's his MAIN PROBLEM.  His character!  

Good God Almighty!  I don't know how you define character, but if you think Trump is not a low character person, you're delusional.

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Trump never would have picked someone like Walz because Trump isn't low chatacter or stupid like Harris.

Trump isn't low character?  That's his MAIN PROBLEM.  His character!  

Good God Almighty!  I don't know how you define character, but if you think Trump is not a low character person, you're delusional.

He's nowhere close to as low character as Harris..

You're low character as well.. Hating someone for no reason. That's about as low character as someone can get.

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Honest question: if Walz didn't have this problem, but instead JD Vance was claiming to be one rank higher than he actually was, would you vote for Harris?

In your scenario did JD also let the city he governed be burnt down, did he let violent criminals run the streets demolishing thousands of hard working peoples businesses completely scot- free, did he put tampons in the boys bathrooms, is he a drunk, does he promote the mutilation of children?

Point being of course, his stolen valor, while huge is only one of his many disqualifying actions.

OK, got you down as a "no."
I'm also a no! There are too many other more important issues to consider before letting a small issue like this change my vote.

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In your scenario did JD also let the city he governed be burnt down, did he let violent criminals run the streets demolishing thousands of hard working peoples businesses completely scot- free, did he put tampons in the boys bathrooms, is he a drunk, does he promote the mutilation of children?

Point being of course, his stolen valor, while huge is only one of his many disqualifying actions.

OK, got you down as a "no."
I'm also a no! There are too many other more important issues to consider before letting a small issue like this change my vote.

Meh, I understand that for a man such as yourself it is a small issue. It might be for the many that have never served their country. I get that. For those that have it is a major character flaw. Not to mention illegal.
You need to understand that.

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OK, got you down as a "no."
I'm also a no! There are too many other more important issues to consider before letting a small issue like this change my vote.

Meh, I understand that for a man such as yourself it is a small issue. It might be for the many that have never served their country. I get that. For those that have it is a major character flaw. Not to mention illegal.
You need to understand that.

So you support a man who avoided serving his country.

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Meh, I understand that for a man such as yourself it is a small issue. It might be for the many that have never served their country. I get that. For those that have it is a major character flaw. Not to mention illegal.
You need to understand that.

So you support a man who avoided serving his country.

Educate me, what laws did he break in doing so? He served four years as POTUS.

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OK, got you down as a "no."
I'm also a no! There are too many other more important issues to consider before letting a small issue like this change my vote.

Meh, I understand that for a man such as yourself it is a small issue. It might be for the many that have never served their country. I get that. For those that have it is a major character flaw. Not to mention illegal.
You need to understand that.

You literally just said that you'd still vote for Vance even if he had done the same thing.

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Meh, I understand that for a man such as yourself it is a small issue. It might be for the many that have never served their country. I get that. For those that have it is a major character flaw. Not to mention illegal.
You need to understand that.

You literally just said that you'd still vote for Vance even if he had done the same thing.

Mike when it comes to the military service and its members you should just take a seat and sit out the conversation.  You don’t understand the brother and sisterhood shared by those of us that served.

Secondly, he said he wouldn’t vote for Harris, not the same thing as there are other options.

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At some point you just have to let go of what you thought should happen and live in what is happening.
 

Meh, I understand that for a man such as yourself it is a small issue. It might be for the many that have never served their country. I get that. For those that have it is a major character flaw. Not to mention illegal.
You need to understand that.

You literally just said that you'd still vote for Vance even if he had done the same thing.

Wrong again.

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Honest question: if Walz didn't have this problem, but instead JD Vance was claiming to be one rank higher than he actually was, would you vote for Harris?

No because I care about their policies.

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Trump never would have picked someone like Walz because Trump isn't low chatacter or stupid like Harris.

Trump isn't low character?  That's his MAIN PROBLEM.  His character!  

Good God Almighty!  I don't know how you define character, but if you think Trump is not a low character person, you're delusional.

That is rich coming from a Harris supporter. Harris is a massive liar and a ch ameleon. She changes her race and politics depending on who she is taking too. She is worse than crooked Hilary.

If you are pretending Harris is a higher quality person, you are delusional. The devil comes with a smile.

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You literally just said that you'd still vote for Vance even if he had done the same thing.

Wrong again.

OK, so if Vance had done this, you would not vote for Trump.  Do I have that right?

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Honest question: if Walz didn't have this problem, but instead JD Vance was claiming to be one rank higher than he actually was, would you vote for Harris?

No because I care about their policies.

OK.  You wouldn't vote for Harris in that situation.  Would you still vote for Trump then?

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