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Esezi Otomewu now has 2.5 sacks

#1

I think he’s done enough to earn a spot. The production is there. After 2 preseason games, Otomewu now has 2.5 sacks.
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#2

For Otomewo to make the 53, in my mind, comes down to how many interior DL they decide to keep. He'll have a tough time cracking the numbers...

Locks (or near-Locks):
Armstead- Lock
Hamilton- Lock
Robertson-Harris- Near-Lock, with about $12m in dead cap if cut, I think he's safe for another year.
Smith- Lock, 2nd round draft pick this year.

Competing for 1-2 spots:
Ledbetter- Baalke likes him and signed him to a nicer 1 year deal in off season
Lacy- round 4 draft pick last year putting on weight and developing
Otomewo- Vikings round 5 pick 2 years ago, good size and hustles
Jefferson- round 4 draft pick this year makes him a tough cut
Marshall- Jets round 6 pick 3 years ago, 3rd team, practice squad hopeful
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(08-18-2024, 04:54 PM)ATLjag Wrote: For Otomewo to make the 53, in my mind, comes down to how many interior DL they decide to keep.  He'll have a tough time cracking the numbers... 

Locks (or near-Locks):
Armstead- Lock
Hamilton- Lock
Robertson-Harris- Near-Lock, with about $12m in dead cap if cut, I think he's safe for another year.
Smith- Lock, 2nd round draft pick this year.

Competing for  1-2 spots:
Ledbetter- Baalke likes him and signed him to a nicer 1 year deal in off season
Lacy- round 4 draft pick last year putting on weight and developing
Otomewo- Vikings round 5 pick 2 years ago, good size and hustles
Jefferson- round 4 draft pick this year makes him a tough cut
Marshall- Jets round 6 pick 3 years ago, 3rd team, practice squad hopeful

Jefferson made a nice play last night shedding a blocking guard to stop a run near the LOS
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#4

(08-18-2024, 04:54 PM)ATLjag Wrote: For Otomewo to make the 53, in my mind, comes down to how many interior DL they decide to keep.  He'll have a tough time cracking the numbers... 

Locks (or near-Locks):
Armstead- Lock
Hamilton- Lock
Robertson-Harris- Near-Lock, with about $12m in dead cap if cut, I think he's safe for another year.
Smith- Lock, 2nd round draft pick this year.

Competing for  1-2 spots:
Ledbetter- Baalke likes him and signed him to a nicer 1 year deal in off season
Lacy- round 4 draft pick last year putting on weight and developing
Otomewo- Vikings round 5 pick 2 years ago, good size and hustles
Jefferson- round 4 draft pick this year makes him a tough cut
Marshall- Jets round 6 pick 3 years ago, 3rd team, practice squad hopeful

Pretty concise summary.  I believe they will keep 6 (NT/DL)  like the last few years. Armstead, Hamilton and Smith are locks. Robertson-Harris's dead cap is 4 million this year as it is past June 1. They have the option of taking the rest in 2.3 mill increments over the next 3 years. They have done this before on players traded.  I believe the next game against Atlanta will decide. He will compete with Ledbetter, Lacy and Jefferson. They will want to keep them all but they will need to chance one of them clearing waivers. Otomewo and Marshall are the odd men out. Practice squad for them.

If I had to handicap it I would say Jefferson at 316lbs and Ledbetter at 300 would be two and Lacy has to make a case he can be as productive as Roy spelling the starters.  Been wrong before ... LOL
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#5

Not saying it’s likely but I wouldn’t at all be surprised if Robertson-Harris got traded, likely wouldn’t bring much, but he’s not really a scheme fit any more and we have younger players competing for that spot
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(08-19-2024, 06:05 AM)Craigukjag Wrote: Not saying it’s likely but I wouldn’t at all be surprised if Robertson-Harris got traded, likely wouldn’t bring much, but he’s not really a scheme fit any more and we have younger players competing for that spot

Yeah the first choice in a situation like this is always to trade one away.  Probably won't find a partner though.
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#7

RRH is a around $7 million dollar cap hit in both 2025 and 2026 if we move on from him now but that drops to $5 million in 2026 if we move him next year. It's small dollars in the grand scheme, but they just gave him 3 years, so it's a tough call.
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#8

I don't think Lacy is safe. I could see them putting him on the practice squad to keep Otomewu. There's one more game left for these guys to earn a spot. Otomewu has earned one already in my opinion as a rotational piece. They're basically the same size, similar draft stock/situation, etc.
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(08-19-2024, 09:51 AM)Caldrac Wrote: I don't think Lacy is safe. I could see them putting him on the practice squad to keep Otomewu. There's one more game left for these guys to earn a spot. Otomewu has earned one already in my opinion as a rotational piece. They're basically the same size, similar draft stock/situation, etc.

I with you on Lacy. I’m not sure he has a fit with the new DC.
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#10
(This post was last modified: 08-20-2024, 07:36 AM by Jaguarmeister. Edited 3 times in total.)

I don't think you guys are looking at the right cap number for cutting/trading RRH.  It's the Dead Cap column in these situations and I don't believe you can post-June 1st him because it's not the final year of his deal, but I could be wrong on that.  You definitely can't post-June 1st him and spread it out over 3 years though.  Post-june cuts allow you to take half the remaining dead cap hit now and half the following season.

RRH's Dead Cap figure is $11.7 Million this year, so the situation is either keep him, take an $11.7 Million cap hit by either cutting or trading him OR potentially treating him as post-june 1st (if possible, not sure it is) which would be $5.85M hit this year and $5.85M next year.  Not an unmanageable cap situation, but his dead cap figure isn't as comfy as some of you have described.  Also, he got $4M guaranteed on 3/22/24 earlier this year.  It would be a a pretty obvious error to have paid that and then decided just months later to cut him. I'm guessing based on the guarantees and likely dead cap hit of $11.7M that he's probably safe.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/...son-harris
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(08-20-2024, 07:31 AM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: I don't think you guys are looking at the right cap number for cutting/trading RRH.  It's the Dead Cap column in these situations and I don't believe you can post-June 1st him because it's not the final year of his deal, but I could be wrong on that.  You definitely can't post-June 1st him and spread it out over 3 years though.  Post-june cuts allow you to take half the remaining dead cap hit now and half the following season.

RRH's Dead Cap figure is $11.7 Million this year, so the situation is either keep him, take an $11.7 Million cap hit by either cutting or trading him OR potentially treating him as post-june 1st (if possible, not sure it is) which would be $5.85M hit this year and $5.85M next year.  Not an unmanageable cap situation, but his dead cap figure isn't as comfy as some of you have described.  Also, he got $4M guaranteed on 3/22/24 earlier this year.  It would be a a pretty obvious error to have paid that and then decided just months later to cut him.  I'm guessing based on the guarantees and likely dead cap hit of $11.7M that he's probably safe.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/...son-harris

If you click the red scissors on the right side of the 2024 line in your link you'll see the explanation. Post June 1 designation doesn't consider the contract year, so if they cut him now that 11.7 goes 4.0 this year and 7.7 next year against the cap. I agree it doesn't make sense to cut him from a contract perspective, but the numbers aren't unbearable if they decide he doesn't measure up.
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(08-20-2024, 08:03 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(08-20-2024, 07:31 AM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: I don't think you guys are looking at the right cap number for cutting/trading RRH.  It's the Dead Cap column in these situations and I don't believe you can post-June 1st him because it's not the final year of his deal, but I could be wrong on that.  You definitely can't post-June 1st him and spread it out over 3 years though.  Post-june cuts allow you to take half the remaining dead cap hit now and half the following season.

RRH's Dead Cap figure is $11.7 Million this year, so the situation is either keep him, take an $11.7 Million cap hit by either cutting or trading him OR potentially treating him as post-june 1st (if possible, not sure it is) which would be $5.85M hit this year and $5.85M next year.  Not an unmanageable cap situation, but his dead cap figure isn't as comfy as some of you have described.  Also, he got $4M guaranteed on 3/22/24 earlier this year.  It would be a a pretty obvious error to have paid that and then decided just months later to cut him.  I'm guessing based on the guarantees and likely dead cap hit of $11.7M that he's probably safe.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/...son-harris

If you click the red scissors on the right side of the 2024 line in your link you'll see the explanation. Post June 1 designation doesn't consider the contract year, so if they cut him now that 11.7 goes 4.0 this year and 7.7 next year against the cap. I agree it doesn't make sense to cut him from a contract perspective, but the numbers aren't unbearable if they decide he doesn't measure up.

Clicked it.  Thanks!
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#13

Practice squad guy
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(08-20-2024, 02:06 PM)jessepeck1213 Wrote: Practice squad guy

Yup
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#15

He made it.

5th round pick out of Minnesota. Drafted by the Vikings in 2022. 6’5 and 282 pounds. DE that moved to DT, which gives us a player that get pressure on the QB from up the middle. He’s a 3 or a 5 tech with his skill set or can play big end on the edge in a 34 look or go down directly over the guard or center, and he can twist and stunt from anywhere on that defensive line. He’ll be in that rotation and hopefully can make a couple splash plays and play special teams. Just the kind of player you want at the bottom of your roster.
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#16

Congratulations on an exceptional spring training and training camp. You made the plays necessary to make the final roster on a loaded position group.
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1.)  Take care of the ball.  Win the turnover battle.

2.)  It's all about 3rd down.  Win on 3rd down to win the game.

3.) Playmakers make plays.  The only reason that you put your uniform on is to make plays. In order to EARN your paycheck, you must make plays.  

Learn from the great collapse of 2023.  
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#17

Props to the staff for finding guys like Tim Jones who seems to battle his way onto the roster every year. Evan Engram, who has revitalized his career with his new team, and has become one of the premier Tight Ends in the league, and guys like Esezi Otomewu who was willing to make a position change and standout on a deep roster.
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(09-03-2024, 08:16 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: Props to the staff for finding guys like Tim Jones who seems to battle his way onto the roster every year.  Evan Engram, who has revitalized his career with his new team, and has become one of the premier Tight Ends in the league, and guys like Esezi Otomewu who was willing to make a position change and standout on a deep roster.

Evan Engram was a steal. Not sure what the issues were up there with the Giants and himself, but, looking at his overall career, his numbers have relatively been inline with what you'd expect out of a receiving type TE. It's not like he was a top five or ten selection. He went 23rd overall in 2017.

He's produced better numbers than guys like Pitts, been on par with guys like Hockenson, could be hitting his stride like Vernon Davis did here soon similarity wise. 

He had a solid rookie season, proceeded to miss a bit of time in back-to-back years after that (while still producing, for somebody that missed five games in 2018 and half a season in 2019, his numbers were pretty damn good). He also had Daniel Jones as his QB since 2019 up there and Mara went through three different coaches while he was there. Between Spags, Shurmur & Judge.
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