Sure it does. Segregation kept us away from one another. And for good reason.

In the long run, it's done more harm than good. We can pretend it hasn't. I won't.

The majority of blacks and whites do not get along. Crime statistics support this as a fact.

Go look online. How many times do you find a group of white kids ganging up on a black kid?

Now, how many times do you see a group of black kids ganging up on a white kid?

How much crime is black on white? Versus white on black?

Again, maybe it was for the best.

We have failed as a society. Time to admit it and move the [BLEEP] on.

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WOW!  You really need to check yourself.  You like many others have confused economic status with race and unfortunately went completely off the rails.

It’s legit one of the dumbest and worst things I’ve read on this board and that’s saying something. Someone claimed Foles was going to win a SB with the Jags….

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Caldrac I’ve known you on this board for a number of years, your getting lost in the conspiracy stuff man. Listen from like 07-15 I was deep into Alex jones and info wars, it’s a small step from that to the storm front pages which is where I think your getting this garbage. Stormfront and Nick Fuentes and patriot front these are not new age small government alt right movements, it’s national socialism redressed white supremacy garbage.

Segregation never worked just think about it from a small government perspective your giving power to the state to tell private citizens who they can interact with! That’s ultimate central power.

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I know it's not 4 times higher per capita.  Duh!  There are 4 times as many white people in this country than black people.  White on black crime is 4 times as prevalent as black on white crime.  I'm not saying white people commit more crimes against black people per capita.  I'm saying the stats line up with the population percentages.  "4 times as prevalent" means that for every black on white crime, there are 4 white on black crimes.  It lines up with the population percentages, and the idea that black are disproportionately attacking white people is not true.

Blacks commit half of the murders, half the armed robberies, and half the assaults, along with 45 percent of the prostitution arrests. Black crime is the problem, regardless of whether they attack blacks, whites or any other racial group.

By your own stats, they are half of the problem, not "the" problem.
Even so that's a really shortsighted way to look at the problem of crime.

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Caldrac I’ve known you on this board for a number of years, your getting lost in the conspiracy stuff man. Listen from like 07-15 I was deep into Alex jones and info wars, it’s a small step from that to the storm front pages which is where I think your getting this garbage. Stormfront and Nick Fuentes and patriot front these are not new age small government alt right movements, it’s national socialism redressed white supremacy garbage.

Segregation never worked just think about it from a small government perspective your giving power to the state to tell private citizens who they can interact with! That’s ultimate central power.

I have no problems with self-segregation. I believe in places where the government didn't interfere in the US, those segregated communities melted into a pot much quicker than in areas where the government tried to force it. That said, as a general idea, I generally don't like the idea of measuring anything by race. Race is nothing. It's hair color. It's eye color. IF and WHERE there are differences, it's almost always because one group of people had some type of hardship that was forced on them for a time. Make equitable laws and create a meritocratic system that doesn't allow for the private oppression of a specific group of people, and the cultures will eventually merge.

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A lot of people like to look at crime stats without an appropriate basis of comparison. We aren't Europe. There are no traditional villages here. There were no great armies evacuating and resettling civilians.
We are former colonies. We were settled by fortune-seekers and pioneers, with guns and slaves. All thirteen colonies had African slaves. Seven freed their slaves during the American revolution, two more a few decades later, the remaining four had their slaves freed by force during the civil war.
Don't compare our crime stats to Europe. Compare us to Brazil or Mexico. We're doing pretty good once you know the context.

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Caldrac I’ve known you on this board for a number of years, your getting lost in the conspiracy stuff man. Listen from like 07-15 I was deep into Alex jones and info wars, it’s a small step from that to the storm front pages which is where I think your getting this garbage. Stormfront and Nick Fuentes and patriot front these are not new age small government alt right movements, it’s national socialism redressed white supremacy garbage.

Segregation never worked just think about it from a small government perspective your giving power to the state to tell private citizens who they can interact with! That’s ultimate central power.

I have no problems with self-segregation. I believe in places where the government didn't interfere in the US, those segregated communities melted into a pot much quicker than in areas where the government tried to force it. That said, as a general idea, I generally don't like the idea of measuring anything by race. Race is nothing. It's hair color. It's eye color. IF and WHERE there are differences, it's almost always because one group of people had some type of hardship that was forced on them for a time. Make equitable laws and create a meritocratic system that doesn't allow for the private oppression of a specific group of people, and the cultures will eventually merge.

I’m not sure what you mean by self-segregation I’m not familiar with that term. 

There was an argument for a while that private companies should have the right to refuse business to whoever they want on any grounds. I can’t argue against that so long as it is private business, However segregation wasn’t done from that standpoint here, it was public and private business that segregated blacks and whites. Caldrac referred to an old argument that desegregation set back race relations and was unjust. I disagree I think to have a true free society you have to have equal access and opportunity, that doesn’t mean equal outcomes that’s where the left gets it wrong.

The reality is the state is so intertwined in every aspect of daily life you’d be hard pressed to find a business not associated with some form of public support financially. If the business is publicly supported it has to be open equally to everyone.

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I have no problems with self-segregation. I believe in places where the government didn't interfere in the US, those segregated communities melted into a pot much quicker than in areas where the government tried to force it. That said, as a general idea, I generally don't like the idea of measuring anything by race. Race is nothing. It's hair color. It's eye color. IF and WHERE there are differences, it's almost always because one group of people had some type of hardship that was forced on them for a time. Make equitable laws and create a meritocratic system that doesn't allow for the private oppression of a specific group of people, and the cultures will eventually merge.

I’m not sure what you mean by self-segregation I’m not familiar with that term. 

There was an argument for a while that private companies should have the right to refuse business to whoever they want on any grounds. I can’t argue against that so long as it is private business, However segregation wasn’t done from that standpoint here, it was public and private business that segregated blacks and whites. Caldrac referred to an old argument that desegregation set back race relations and was unjust. I disagree I think to have a true free society you have to have equal access and opportunity, that doesn’t mean equal outcomes that’s where the left gets it wrong.

The reality is the state is so intertwined in every aspect of daily life you’d be hard pressed to find a business not associated with some form of public support financially. If the business is publicly supported it has to be open equally to everyone.

Self segregation just means people choosing to only have minimal interaction with people who don't look like them. It's not about restaurants or hotels or schools.  It's about churches and friend groups mostly. In the US today, a lot of people self-segregate.  But a lot of people don't.

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Not sure if you noticed it or not, but, I am on here for myself, bud. Not trying to earn brownie points or +1's from any of you.

My whole point, again, you chop it up to Government interference and failing these communities, etc.

That's my whole point. It's failed. It continues to fail. Each generation has been brainwashed and brow beaten into submission now into white guilt and white privilege and DEI is just now starting to show it's [BLEEP] results and outcomes.

The whole point of segregation is to minimize needless violence, hate and crime against one another.

There's a reason hundred's of borders exist and there's a reason why people are pushing back on immigration. There's nationalist's everywhere, not limited to just "wypippo".

Go ask those white south African's how they feel about being in a predominately black nation. In the long run, it doesn't work. Just a lot easier to accept the fact that we have inherent differences and therefore have likes and dislikes.



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Like I said, actual crime statistics show that white on white crime is at least 4 times as prevalent as black on white crime.  

Besides, if you segregate the races, what are you going to do with the 13% of the population that is biracial?  And who gets to claim the Asians?  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z3wUD3AZg4

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Turns out the left isn't wrong when it says that some Trump supporters are deeply racist.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Turns out the left isn't wrong when it says that some Trump supporters are deeply racist.

That’s not fair there’s deeply racist on both sides.

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My hot take is global warming is real and it's about to get real uncomfortable real soon, and we might as well try to modify the atmosphere and ocean in ways that will reduce the problem.

Unfortunately, most of the people who care about global warming are environmentalists who only want to "restore" and "heal" the environment, not intentionally engineer it. Either that or they're goons who are just looking for a way to wreck western economies.

If we start dumping iron nanoparticles in the dead zones of the oceans, and start pumping sulfur dioxide into the atmosphere, we can reduce global temperatures fairly quickly.

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Turns out the left isn't wrong when it says that some Trump supporters are deeply racist.

That’s not fair there’s deeply racist on both sides.

True!

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Turns out the left isn't wrong when it says that some Trump supporters are deeply racist.

That’s not fair there’s deeply racist on both sides.

Whenever you have a country with mixed races, you'll have racism. It'll never die.. A lot of people are afraid of others who do not look like them. Just a fact..

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My hot take is global warming is real and it's about to get real uncomfortable real soon, and we might as well try to modify the atmosphere and ocean in ways that will reduce the problem. 

Unfortunately, most of the people who care about global warming are environmentalists who only want to "restore" and "heal" the environment, not intentionally engineer it.  Either that or they're goons who are just looking for a way to wreck western economies.

If we start dumping iron nanoparticles in the dead zones of the oceans, and start pumping sulfur dioxide into the atmosphere, we can reduce global temperatures fairly quickly.

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I agree it is real. The earth is on a 2500 year cycle (the Aztec's have it right) It has been through this at least the last 10,000 years.  The scientist know this from ice cores taken from both the Arctic and Antarctica. We have approximately the same temps and air content (carbon dioxide and other elements) in the atmosphere as we had 2,500/5,000/7500/10,000 years ago. There were no autos/industry/cows farting back then and the population was much lower. Humans have had an effect on this but only about 1%. What is going to happen in this cycle cannot be controlled by humans.  We are getting close to the time when other inputs which actually are the driving force begin to take effect and cooling will begin.(current estimate is 2 to 5 degrees possibly triggering an ice age) Some say 2030 but the plus or minus on that can be 50 years or so.  That is why the terminology was changed from "Global Warming" to "Climate Change".  I feel the Aztecs just dropped the ball not attaching a begin date to their calendar ! 

Bottom line any time someone puts together a forecast based on 60 years of tree rings from one county in England and only uses 30 of them cause the math won't work otherwise, laugh at it. That was the UN chart that got all this started. It was disproved within 90 days.

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

My hot take is global warming is real and it's about to get real uncomfortable real soon, and we might as well try to modify the atmosphere and ocean in ways that will reduce the problem.

Unfortunately, most of the people who care about global warming are environmentalists who only want to "restore" and "heal" the environment, not intentionally engineer it. Either that or they're goons who are just looking for a way to wreck western economies.

If we start dumping iron nanoparticles in the dead zones of the oceans, and start pumping sulfur dioxide into the atmosphere, we can reduce global temperatures fairly quickly.

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That’s not fair there’s deeply racist on both sides.

True!

Not in agreement with you on human intervention playing the role of mother nature directly to slow down or stifle global warming.

Cloud seeding, rain cloud creations, etc. All of that is bad enough as it is. Also, you would have to convince Multi Billion Dollar Globalist's and High Industrialist Countries to get on board as well.

Good luck with that. It's already been studied or cited. Every American could wake up tomorrow with a green thumb and there's still minimal impact to be had with India and China leading the way in air pollution.

I don't think there's anything that can be done to slow it down enough unfortunately. It's a noble idea. I'll give you that one. We have had a lot of intelligent people and inventor's also try to come forward with alternative sources of free energy get shot down.

Literally and figuratively.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Turns out the left isn't wrong when it says that some Trump supporters are deeply racist.

This was true then. Even more true now today.

https://youtu.be/7_cQsG1VSRg?si=nePRZGDXXXRzF5_T

I don't know what's more racist.

Being afraid of your white son getting jumped by a gang of thugs raised to hate him at home by his family, media and culture.

Or, pretending to care about a race of people you say is not good enough on it's own to get anything done or right without a white man or woman's helping hand with their white savior and white superhero complex.

Just because your favorite show is The Wire and you voted for Obama twice doesn't make you not a racist.

The left is the worst of all. "Strength through Joy". That's the running slogan now. I was told for the last eight years Trump is a racist Nazi, yet, here it is, the left is using a Nazi slogan and has radicalized Israel hating, Jew hating, Pro Palestine pawns on American soil and American college grounds.

Trust me. The "few" in Trump's camp that you think are "racist" are just a true Nationalist at heart that are tired of seeing this country use it's tax payers for proxy wars and Global Intervention.

Both parties have their useful idiots though. Unfortunately, an Independent such as myself has to choose every four years because we're too far divided now as a nation to realize that we're never really getting anywhere with either party in the grand scheme of things.

Cheers though. I guess...

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Blacks commit half of the murders, half the armed robberies, and half the assaults, along with 45 percent of the prostitution arrests. Black crime is the problem, regardless of whether they attack blacks, whites or any other racial group.

By your own stats, they are half of the problem, not "the" problem.
Even so that's a really shortsighted way to look at the problem of crime.

Lol, you assume it's the only way I look at crime. And by my own stats we can eliminate half the problem by focusing on ~6% of the population. Seems a good use of focused resources to me.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

https://youtube.com/shorts/ztTduQVC1D0?s...1hsAoZEJ6i

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

By your own stats, they are half of the problem, not "the" problem.
Even so that's a really shortsighted way to look at the problem of crime.

Lol, you assume it's the only way I look at crime. And by my own stats we can eliminate half the problem by focusing on ~6% of the population. Seems a good use of focused resources to me.

That's exactly what most places have done since the late 1960s.  How's that working out?

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Lol, you assume it's the only way I look at crime. And by my own stats we can eliminate half the problem by focusing on ~6% of the population. Seems a good use of focused resources to me.

That's exactly what most places have done since the late 1960s.  How's that working out?

Not well enough yet, but if we do the job right then it will make the country and world a much better place.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

That's exactly what most places have done since the late 1960s.  How's that working out?

Not well enough yet, but if we do the job right then it will make the country and world a much better place.

Just try harder!
How'd that work in 'Nam?

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