If a candidate you like gets to overturn elections and move against the will of Congress and judges, a candidate you dislike also gets to overturn elections and overturn the will of Congress and judges.

Completely understand that it's a two way street. I just find it interesting that it's just those two instances in particular that you're judging the candidates on. 

Are you also factoring in anything else, such as:

Energy Sector - Renewable, clean, fossil fuels, solar, etc. What moves and investments are being made here to benefit us all in the long run?

Economy - Locally & nationally, what are we doing to help our tax payers?

Retirement - For the current generation, and generations to come, what do the coffers look like and what are the pensions looking like?

Medical - What are we doing here to ensure it's fair and affordable for everybody in need?

Military - How this is budgeted, is their any concerns short term and long term. How are we doing on our veteran's?

Foreign Aid - How is this budgeted, does this pave the way for global conflict or strengthen our relationships?

Geopolitical - What is our overall standing with the rest of the world, both, economically and politically?

Education - What are we doing to improve our overall literacy, test scores and general "know how" for our youth?

Infrastructure - With our country expanding in population, how are our buildings, bridges and roads holding up?

Security - What are we doing about our border's along with any potential terrorist groups and terror cells developing?

An ex girlfriend once asked me which of the ten items in the bill of rights was most important to me.
She saw my wheels spinning, then she stopped me and said, "Trick question. It's the 2nd.  With our guns we secure all of the others."
I think she was right.
Similarly, if the government doesn't first respect your right to vote, it's not going to respect any of your opinions about government policy.

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I am qualified over Trump.  If I took the oath of office I would mean it.  He wouldn't.  Every indication is Kamala would mean it.

MIke you come off as someone with a serious case of Trump Derangement syndrome and can no longer respect any of your view points when it comes to politics.

That's why I don't argue with them anymore.. There's no use, their hatred is much greater than their sense of common.. You'll end up like me soon, where you call him a jackass and move on. The topic of discussion doesn't even really matter anymore because of his contrarianism, but my answer to him will remain the same.

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Completely understand that it's a two way street. I just find it interesting that it's just those two instances in particular that you're judging the candidates on. 

Are you also factoring in anything else, such as:

Energy Sector - Renewable, clean, fossil fuels, solar, etc. What moves and investments are being made here to benefit us all in the long run?

Economy - Locally & nationally, what are we doing to help our tax payers?

Retirement - For the current generation, and generations to come, what do the coffers look like and what are the pensions looking like?

Medical - What are we doing here to ensure it's fair and affordable for everybody in need?

Military - How this is budgeted, is their any concerns short term and long term. How are we doing on our veteran's?

Foreign Aid - How is this budgeted, does this pave the way for global conflict or strengthen our relationships?

Geopolitical - What is our overall standing with the rest of the world, both, economically and politically?

Education - What are we doing to improve our overall literacy, test scores and general "know how" for our youth?

Infrastructure - With our country expanding in population, how are our buildings, bridges and roads holding up?

Security - What are we doing about our border's along with any potential terrorist groups and terror cells developing?

An ex girlfriend once asked me which of the ten items in the bill of rights was most important to me.
She saw my wheels spinning, then she stopped me and said, "Trick question. It's the 2nd.  With our guns we secure all of the others."
I think she was right.
Similarly, if the government doesn't first respect your right to vote, it's not going to respect any of your opinions about government policy.

Ok, so, if you think she was right about the 2nd amendment. You don't have any concerns with Harris going after that or enforcing a law or mandating that guns are taken away?

If that's the one thing preventing a tyrannical Government on our soil, why would you risk voting for her? As that has become one of the main focal points from her party in particular.

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An ex girlfriend once asked me which of the ten items in the bill of rights was most important to me.
She saw my wheels spinning, then she stopped me and said, "Trick question. It's the 2nd.  With our guns we secure all of the others."
I think she was right.
Similarly, if the government doesn't first respect your right to vote, it's not going to respect any of your opinions about government policy.

Ok, so, if you think she was right about the 2nd amendment. You don't have any concerns with Harris going after that or enforcing a law or mandating that guns are taken away?

If that's the one thing preventing a tyrannical Government on our soil, why would you risk voting for her? As that has become one of the main focal points from her party in particular.

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The ballot box is just as important as the bullet box.  I don't want either taken away.  I don't think Kamala will take guns away.

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You have not stated it clearly.  You have not stated why she is better you only stated why Donald is not.  You cannot name her strengths because she has none.  Again Mike with you and your party's tired democratic argument, "she isn't Trump"

I also remind you Harris is the same woman who was voted the least popular VP ever a few months ago.

Kamala Harris has never tried to overturn an election.  
She's called for some dumb stuff, but she's given no indication that she would do that dumb stuff even when Congress and the courts say no.
These two things alone qualify her over and above Trump.
I am qualified over Trump.  If I took the oath of office I would mean it.  He wouldn't.  Every indication is Kamala would mean it.

What indication has she given that she won't "do that dumb stuff"?

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When you get into the endzone, act like you've been there before.

Kamala Harris has never tried to overturn an election.  
She's called for some dumb stuff, but she's given no indication that she would do that dumb stuff even when Congress and the courts say no.
These two things alone qualify her over and above Trump.
I am qualified over Trump.  If I took the oath of office I would mean it.  He wouldn't.  Every indication is Kamala would mean it.

What indication has she given that she won't "do that dumb stuff"?

Oh! Oh! Oh!

I know this one!

She’s not Trump!

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At some point you just have to let go of what you thought should happen and live in what is happening.
 

60 pages deep into this thread and I still have not received an answer on why Harris is a better candidate than Donal trump outside of SHE IS NOT TRUMP.

On social media, I have observed that most blue voters fall into 3 categories:
1. The race hustlers- Some will vote for her simply because she is a black woman. They do not care about her politics they only care she is a "woman of color."
2. The brainwashed blue blood liberal - This is not your daddy's democratic party but they were born and raised blue no matter who. Some would vote for a rock over Donald Trump.
3. The Extreme left liberal - They are all about Pronouns, sex changes, non binary nonsense, and are overall mentally disturbed people.

You asked Democrats to sell you on Harris.  There aren't any Democrats participating on a regular basis on this message board.  So that's one reason you struck out here.  Maybe if you change your title to "Hurricane!  Sell me on Harris!" He's the only Democrat that I know of that comes around here on a regular basis.  

And then you say, "Sell me on Harris, but don't talk about Trump."  Every election is a choice between usually two candidates.  One has to be compared to the other.  What are her accomplishments?  Vice Presidents don't accomplish much.  Their main job is waiting, like the backup QB.  Stand on the sidelines.  

I'm trying real hard to sell myself on Harris, because she's not Trump, but so far, it's pretty close.  I'm still uncommitted.  You know my feeling about Trump.  I don't need to repeat it.

The two only have to be compared in your mind, not in this thread.  That's how you decide what to do with your vote, though it appears you made that decision long ago.  Why mention Trump at all, unless you seek to influence others. 

Harris was given one job as V.P., border czar.  Remind me again, how many months passed before she even went there for a photo op?  To say she has been an abysmal failure is an understatement.  Backup QBs distinguished themselves in college on their way up to the NFL.  What did Harris do to distinguish herself on the way up to V.P.?

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When you get into the endzone, act like you've been there before.

Kamala Harris has never tried to overturn an election.  
She's called for some dumb stuff, but she's given no indication that she would do that dumb stuff even when Congress and the courts say no.
These two things alone qualify her over and above Trump.
I am qualified over Trump.  If I took the oath of office I would mean it.  He wouldn't.  Every indication is Kamala would mean it.

What indication has she given that she won't "do that dumb stuff"?

This indication is that Congress and judges won't let her.  And she won't push it if they don't consent.
Right there in the rest of the sentence.
Read.

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Ok, so, if you think she was right about the 2nd amendment. You don't have any concerns with Harris going after that or enforcing a law or mandating that guns are taken away?

If that's the one thing preventing a tyrannical Government on our soil, why would you risk voting for her? As that has become one of the main focal points from her party in particular.

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The ballot box is just as important as the bullet box.  I don't want either taken away.  I don't think Kamala will take guns away.

What bull [BLEEP]. The Ammo Box protects the Ballot Box, if you lose the one the other will be not far behind. And Harris and the Dems desperately want to take the guns away, so much so that they are setting up mass shootings to make the Middle Class insist on it.

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https://twitter.com/TrueTheVote/status/1...Yjt2A&s=19

Is this illegal?

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If a candidate you like gets to overturn elections and move against the will of Congress and judges, a candidate you dislike also gets to overturn elections and overturn the will of Congress and judges.

What indication has she given that she won't "do that dumb stuff"?

This indication is that Congress and judges won't let her.  And she won't push it if they don't consent.  
Right there in the rest of the sentence.
Read.

What election got overturned?  

Will Congress and judges allow other candidates to overturn elections?  They are the safeguard built into our system of government.  If they allow ANYONE to overturn an election, aren't they a greater threat to democracy than any individual candidate?

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When you get into the endzone, act like you've been there before.

If a candidate you like gets to overturn elections and move against the will of Congress and judges, a candidate you dislike also gets to overturn elections and overturn the will of Congress and judges.

This indication is that Congress and judges won't let her.  And she won't push it if they don't consent.  
Right there in the rest of the sentence.
Read.

What election got overturned?  

Will Congress and judges allow other candidates to overturn elections?  They are the safeguard built into our system of government.  If they allow ANYONE to overturn an election, aren't they a greater threat to democracy than any individual candidate?

He says as he votes for the only unelected person running for President...

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So many of us conspiracy theorists out there lolol

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So many of us conspiracy theorists out there lolol

DEEPStateocrats.

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If a candidate you like gets to overturn elections and move against the will of Congress and judges, a candidate you dislike also gets to overturn elections and overturn the will of Congress and judges.

This indication is that Congress and judges won't let her.  And she won't push it if they don't consent.  
Right there in the rest of the sentence.
Read.

What election got overturned?  

Will Congress and judges allow other candidates to overturn elections?  They are the safeguard built into our system of government.  If they allow ANYONE to overturn an election, aren't they a greater threat to democracy than any individual candidate?

Your intellect astounds and confounds me.
There's more than one way to overturn an election.
Look around the world.  Especially the third world.  Members of legislatures and judges end up imprisoned or exiled when the generalissimo suspects disloyalty.  In these cases their consent becomes irrelevant.

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What election got overturned?  

Will Congress and judges allow other candidates to overturn elections?  They are the safeguard built into our system of government.  If they allow ANYONE to overturn an election, aren't they a greater threat to democracy than any individual candidate?

Your intellect astounds and confounds me.
There's more than one way to overturn an election.
Look around the world.  Especially the third world.  Members of legislatures and judges and up imprisoned or exiled when the generalissimo suspects disloyalty.  In these cases their consent becomes irrelevant.

That doesn't happen here though. Our Government likes to hide it's dishonesty and ill intentions behind warm and fuzzy words and assassination attempts. We have a "squeaky clean" image and reputation to uphold for the moron masses, the ignorant millions. 

I highly doubt an election will ever be overturned here. The only way that happens here is if the majority grow tired of the [BLEEP] and decide to physically take control of it with their own hands. 

That won't happen here. No matter how "scary" people think January 6th was. It's a wet fart on a dry summer day compared to the [BLEEP] we've seen in third world countries. It ultimately resulted in a whopping nothing burger.

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Your intellect astounds and confounds me.
There's more than one way to overturn an election.
Look around the world.  Especially the third world.  Members of legislatures and judges and up imprisoned or exiled when the generalissimo suspects disloyalty.  In these cases their consent becomes irrelevant.

That doesn't happen here though. Our Government likes to hide it's dishonesty and ill intentions behind warm and fuzzy words and assassination attempts. We have a "squeaky clean" image and reputation to uphold for the moron masses, the ignorant millions. 

I highly doubt an election will ever be overturned here. The only way that happens here is if the majority grow tired of the [BLEEP] and decide to physically take control of it with their own hands. 

That won't happen here. No matter how "scary" people think January 6th was. It's a wet fart on a dry summer day compared to the [BLEEP] we've seen in third world countries. It ultimately resulted in a whopping nothing burger.

The bolded is true.  But if you see your brother fondling your daughter's breasts, do you say, "oh that's nothing compared to what happens in other places! No big deal!"
No.  You put a stop to that [BLEEP] with extreme prejudice and make sure her uncle never becomes a threat again.
You don't put that uncle in a position of power and access again.

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Says the guy who thinks the second amendment "might" be the most important amendment. For what? Empty threats. We will just let our government get more and more corrupted.

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That doesn't happen here though. Our Government likes to hide it's dishonesty and ill intentions behind warm and fuzzy words and assassination attempts. We have a "squeaky clean" image and reputation to uphold for the moron masses, the ignorant millions. 

I highly doubt an election will ever be overturned here. The only way that happens here is if the majority grow tired of the [BLEEP] and decide to physically take control of it with their own hands. 

That won't happen here. No matter how "scary" people think January 6th was. It's a wet fart on a dry summer day compared to the [BLEEP] we've seen in third world countries. It ultimately resulted in a whopping nothing burger.

The bolded is true.  But if you see your brother fondling your daughter's breasts, do you say, "oh that's nothing compared to what happens in other places! No big deal!"
No.  You put a stop to that [BLEEP] with extreme prejudice and make sure her uncle never becomes a threat again.
You don't put that uncle in a position of power and access again.

How did we get from overturning elections to uncle's fondling the breast's of daughter's? 

It's too early for that man. While I get where you're going with this. How many elections do you think our Government has tried overturning or rigging abroad? How many times do you think our Government has sicked the dogs of the deep state in some of these "third world" countries that are rich in resources?

That's why I am saying it won't happen here. We're good at subterfuge, misinformation, disinformation and we're the epitome of "piss or get off the pot". Nobody wants the smoke in this country. Nobody wants to bloody their hands that badly. Nobody wants to take down the Government corruption that badly.

We're too busy (myself included, I am guilty of this), being distracted by bread and circuses. I can't see it from my backyard, my family is getting by enough... for now. I have a job and a game to watch this Sunday. Nobody's larping this weekend at the local water hole as G.I Joe and scripting Red Dawn events in case of an emergency. 

But, to your point, creepy uncles fondling the breast's of daughter's? Doesn't that sound like your best buddy, Biden?

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https://twitter.com/ClownWorld_/status/1...o_67g&s=19

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