Hutchinson is still very, very good. I think we knew that his floor was higher than Travon's, but Walker has a higher ceiling IMO.

...and some of us had the patience to wait for that ceiling to emerge from development. 

Others, the wailing and gnashing of teeth, ad nauseam.

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Hutchinson is still very, very good. I think we knew that his floor was higher than Travon's, but Walker has a higher ceiling IMO.

...and some of us had the patience to wait for that ceiling to emerge from development. 

Others, the wailing and gnashing of teeth, ad nauseam.

That's over pretty much everything though...

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Hutchinson is still very, very good. I think we knew that his floor was higher than Travon's, but Walker has a higher ceiling IMO.

...and some of us had the patience to wait for that ceiling to emerge from development. 

Others, the wailing and gnashing of teeth, ad nauseam.

Wonder how olinematters is enjoying his time supporting thr bengals, walker was the final straw for him from memory

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...and some of us had the patience to wait for that ceiling to emerge from development. 

Others, the wailing and gnashing of teeth, ad nauseam.

Wonder how olinematters is enjoying his time supporting thr bengals, walker was the final straw for him from memory

Also throw in Fortner. He was adamant Fortner was a wasted pick. I believe those 2 broke the camel's back.

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

Travon Walker is a beast.

He's showing the upside that got him selected over that kid in Detroit whose name I already forgot. 

I'll be having a good natured chuckle this season at those who lost their marbles for 18 months over that decision by our organization.

Huh? lol

Its good to see Walking improving but Hutchinson has been very good since day 1.  He is one of the best pass rushers in the league and had 11 pressures in week 1 , was a monster and has been playing at an elite level.  Hopefully Walker continues to improve and be up there with the top pass rushers. Hopefully he dominates Sunday.

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Hutchinson is still very, very good. I think we knew that his floor was higher than Travon's, but Walker has a higher ceiling IMO.

I understand the frustration, but I'd wait for Walker to surpass Hutchinson.  Hutchinson still has a bit of an edge, but I do think that  now that Walker finally has his hand on the ground, he'll have a good shot at it.

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Can we leave the personal insults behind for a while and get back to some semblance of topic, gents?
Please, and thank you.

He's showing the upside that got him selected over that kid in Detroit whose name I already forgot. 

I'll be having a good natured chuckle this season at those who lost their marbles for 18 months over that decision by our organization.

Huh? lol

Its good to see Walking improving but Hutchinson has been very good since day 1.  He is one of the best pass rushers in the league and had 11 pressures in week 1 , was a monster and has been playing at an elite level.  Hopefully Walker continues to improve and be up there with the top pass rushers. Hopefully he dominates Sunday.

Yeah

You are one of the impatient [BLEEP] tards I was referring to

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Huh? lol

Its good to see Walking improving but Hutchinson has been very good since day 1.  He is one of the best pass rushers in the league and had 11 pressures in week 1 , was a monster and has been playing at an elite level.  Hopefully Walker continues to improve and be up there with the top pass rushers. Hopefully he dominates Sunday.

Yeah

You are one of the impatient [BLEEP] tards I was referring to

Not impatient at all.  I always liked Walker and he was always a very good football player with upside.  I didnt like the idea of taking a guy with the first overall pick on a guy that wasnt a very good pass rusher when one was sitting there with very high upside and an elite athlete as well.  Hutch has been playing at an elite level and its good to see Walker improving.  Nielsen will likely be the best think that ever happened to Travon. Its comical calling a Jags fan since day one impatient lol

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This is their 3rd year so holding judgment until after this season. To be fair to walker, they have been playing him out of position. Hutch stayed at defensive end. Walker was splitting his time out in coverage.

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If it's to be another concussion related injury, I'm not sure he should come back on the field ever again after we saw the immediate effect on the field of his last one.  Those injuries become more and more likely with less and less trauma and if he shows another visible sign of involuntary movement... I think it might be career ending.

I don't think we'll see him twitching on the field like a mouse that got swatted with a heavy broom or like Hodor as a young man from Game of Thrones when Bran broke his mind. 

But, I think he'll probably bang up his ankle, knee or throwing shoulder. Especially against a divisional rival. I forget that they also have the Jets to contest with this year twice as well. There's some pretty fast and physical defenses in that division. Just feels inevitable that a guy of his frame, especially after shedding 15 pounds off, is bound to get hurt for an extensive period of time.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Well the Dolphins weren't ready for TNF. They don't seem like a remotely good team. Now I'm kind of worried, but maybe they full sent to win Week 1.

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Well the Dolphins weren't ready for TNF.  They don't seem like a remotely good team.  Now I'm kind of worried,  but maybe they full sent to win Week 1.

No we dog walked them around the park just like the Bills did tonight if ETN doesn't [BLEEP] us with his fumble. Plain and simple.

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Well the Dolphins weren't ready for TNF.  They don't seem like a remotely good team.  Now I'm kind of worried,  but maybe they full sent to win Week 1.

No we dog walked them around the park just like the Bills did tonight if ETN doesn't [BLEEP] us with his fumble. Plain and simple.

Jeff Lageman was talking about that. Paraphrasing, he said we played strong physically but mentally collapsed. Miami didn’t win the game, we lost it.

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It's Friday folks. [BLEEP] Miami. Time to put it behind us and get onto eating up some brownie's this Sunday.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Well I don’t think we’ll have to worry about tie breakers with Miami now. They’re cooked.

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It's Friday folks. [BLEEP] Miami. Time to put it behind us and get onto eating up some brownie's this Sunday.

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Mmmm slamlamon brownies

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Darby gave up 175 yards last week. The worst corner in the league week 1. He needs to be much better against Cooper this week

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This is going to be an easy dub

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This is going to be an easy dub

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

CRANK THE TANK AND LETS GO EATIN

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