I only wear Red Polo's on Sunday Golf, or after I had sex.

It's not often, but it does happen.

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Against the Browns, the offense was humming when we started being agressive and unpredictable.  Why not have an entire game plan where we're agressive and unpredictable?  Lawrence is a great QB.  I think we should allow him to sling the ball.  That's when we're at our best.  Plus now, we have BTJ.  Dude is becoming a star.  We should be leaning into our strengths.  

And that is when Trevor is allowed to throw first.

The fact that you can't correlate that pressure percentage citation with an answer to "why not throw more?" is somewhat impressive in its daftness.

Sooooo... Throw it less?

What the hell are you on about? 

I'm just posting multiple stats that show why our QB has not been more productive for two weeks. 
His line isn't protecting him and his receivers are dropping balls at a high rate. 

I'm not recommending more or less passing - just wish that the blockers would make their blocks and the catchers make their catches. 

Very simple stuff here.

Sorry, I just think sometimes the things you've posted are not causal.  But that's just my opinion.

At one point you say that there's too much pressure.  So if there's too much pressure we can't throw the ball as much as I suggest.

Then you say there are too many drops.  So if there are too many drops we should not throw it?  Which is counter inductive considering that if the drops were to come down, throwing the ball more would be a good idea.

I don't know, to me it seems that we should just continue to give the ball to Trevor and let him fling it.  The drops will come down as the receivers begin to realize they are gonna get more balls.  But that's just my opinion.  Pressure is pressure.  Every QB has pressure.  But if we become more dynamic and not throw on obvious throw plays, maybe the pressure % would come down.

Again, just my opinion.  I'm not going to call you names, like you did to me.  I'm just giving my opinion.   By the way, correlation does not imply causation.

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The fact that you can't correlate that pressure percentage citation with an answer to "why not throw more?" is somewhat impressive in its daftness.

What the hell are you on about? 

I'm just posting multiple stats that show why our QB has not been more productive for two weeks. 
His line isn't protecting him and his receivers are dropping balls at a high rate. 

I'm not recommending more or less passing - just wish that the blockers would make their blocks and the catchers make their catches. 

Very simple stuff here.

Sorry, I just think sometimes the things you've posted are not causal.  But that's just my opinion.

At one point you say that there's too much pressure.  So if there's too much pressure we can't throw the ball as much as I suggest.

Then you say there are too many drops.  So if there are too many drops we should not throw it?  Which is counter inductive considering that if the drops were to come down, throwing the ball more would be a good idea.

I don't know, to me it seems that we should just continue to give the ball to Trevor and let him fling it.  The drops will come down as the receivers begin to realize they are gonna get more balls.  But that's just my opinion.  Pressure is pressure.  Every QB has pressure.  But if we become more dynamic and not throw on obvious throw plays, maybe the pressure % would come down.

Again, just my opinion.  I'm not going to call you names, like you did to me.  I'm just giving my opinion.   By the way, correlation does not imply causation.

Again...

I want the blockers to block and the catchers to catch. 

They aren't doing that well enough right now. 

It doesn't need to mean anything more than that.

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Sooooo... Throw it less?

What the hell are you on about? 

I'm just posting multiple stats that show why our QB has not been more productive for two weeks. 
His line isn't protecting him and his receivers are dropping balls at a high rate. 

I'm not recommending more or less passing - just wish that the blockers would make their blocks and the catchers make their catches. 

Very simple stuff here.

That would be very nice.  We actually need to pass first to open up the run. That is just what Doug did in Philly, why he is not doing it here has me stumped. The Jags seem to be doing the opposite.

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What the hell are you on about? 

I'm just posting multiple stats that show why our QB has not been more productive for two weeks. 
His line isn't protecting him and his receivers are dropping balls at a high rate. 

I'm not recommending more or less passing - just wish that the blockers would make their blocks and the catchers make their catches. 

Very simple stuff here.

That would be very nice.  We actually need to pass first to open up the run. That is just what Doug did in Philly, why he is not doing it here has me stumped. The Jags seem to be doing the opposite.

He has done it here in the past. (pass to run)  So far this year - the run strategy seems to have taken a more blatant turn in strategy.

It's two games - and I've seen Pederson treat different opponents quite differently before, so I don't want to read too much into it just yet. Could be they just thought they could get the backs churning by feeding them enough rather than loosening the defense with the mesh stuff first. 

The most obvious change is the dialed up under center passing downs and play action pass calls. Maybe the implementation of that stuff influenced a change in approach to the run strategy? 

I just don't know yet, and it is very early on, so I'll kind of sit back and see what happens. 
There are just so many offensive plays so far that got bungled by one guy screwing up that I hesitate to paint any of it with a wide swath of critique in terms of strategy.

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What the hell are you on about? 

I'm just posting multiple stats that show why our QB has not been more productive for two weeks. 
His line isn't protecting him and his receivers are dropping balls at a high rate. 

I'm not recommending more or less passing - just wish that the blockers would make their blocks and the catchers make their catches. 

Very simple stuff here.

That would be very nice.  We actually need to pass first to open up the run. That is just what Doug did in Philly, why he is not doing it here has me stumped. The Jags seem to be doing the opposite.

Totally agree.

And to add to that.  Remember when we decided to hurry up and put the ball in Trevor's hand in the 4th quarter against the browns. We started looking like a real offense.  It's not like this team can't be explosive.  But we just seem to want to play a style of game our O-Line isn't capable of playing.  So why not change it up?

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I am on the fence on Lawrence, IDK if he will ever be considered one of the elite Qbs in the league.

Matt Ryan breaks it down

https://youtu.be/TcblQuIsEAE?si=9tXBJCFKF6KK_irn

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I am on the fence on Lawrence, IDK if he will ever be considered one of the elite Qbs in the league.

Matt Ryan breaks it down

https://youtu.be/TcblQuIsEAE?si=9tXBJCFKF6KK_irn

Without watching it yet. Just based on the thumbnail. I never had the impression Lawrence WAS a pure passer to begin with. Even at Clemson.

He's a tall athlete with underrated mobility and a very talented arm. However, he was never a classic "drop back and pass it" from the pocket Quarterback. Ever.

I was surprised and quite often called for MORE useage of his legs since his rookie season. Especially inside the redzone and near the goal line. He's also CLEARLY a better thrower when on the move.

Can he make throws from the pocket? Yes. Can he make unorthodox throws while back peddaling and off one foot? Yes. Is he Peyton Manning, Drew Brees or Dan Marino from the pocket? Of course not.

And he NEVER was. Anybody that watched him knew that though. I always saw him as a more mobile and willing runner than Aaron Rodgers with a strong arm and a bit of a wild streak in him like John Elway and Brett Favre.

He's not going to rip 4,600+ yards off in passing and 35+ passing TD's yearly. Not his game. He's more of the 4,000 yard type passer with maybe 20+ passing TD's with the 300 - 600 yards rushing and 4+ rushing TD's type Quarterback.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Sorry, I just think sometimes the things you've posted are not causal.  But that's just my opinion.

At one point you say that there's too much pressure.  So if there's too much pressure we can't throw the ball as much as I suggest.

Then you say there are too many drops.  So if there are too many drops we should not throw it?  Which is counter inductive considering that if the drops were to come down, throwing the ball more would be a good idea.

I don't know, to me it seems that we should just continue to give the ball to Trevor and let him fling it.  The drops will come down as the receivers begin to realize they are gonna get more balls.  But that's just my opinion.  Pressure is pressure.  Every QB has pressure.  But if we become more dynamic and not throw on obvious throw plays, maybe the pressure % would come down.

Again, just my opinion.  I'm not going to call you names, like you did to me.  I'm just giving my opinion.   By the way, correlation does not imply causation.

Again...

I want the blockers to block and the catchers to catch. 

They aren't doing that well enough right now. 

It doesn't need to mean anything more than that.

I think this is what's getting Trevor so frustrated. Last year he was taking so many hits behind that line and eventually got injured and then even more.

He's the QB so he's the one that gets the criticism and negative publicity. He gets his contract and it gets criticised. He's not had a turnover and has actually played pretty well. He's limiting his mistakes and is a lot more conscious of risk/reward passes. Yet he's being let down, yet again, by a lot of the pieces around him. Drops, blown protections, players not lining up properly, calls not getting into the headset quick enough, poor situational playcalling yet as he's the QB he gets the blame and told how he's overrated and disappointment.

He is a team player and will blame himself before anyone else in his press conferences but he must be so tired of not only having to beat the opponents but also all the obstacles we throw in his way. Trevor certainly has areas he can continue to improve but this is an O that struggles to do all the basics without sipping up somewhere.

It's frustrating as the O has more than enough talent to be a top 10, maybe top 5 unit. The reason they aren't is on the players and coaches and they are the only ones that can fix it.

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I am on the fence on Lawrence, IDK if he will ever be considered one of the elite Qbs in the league.

Matt Ryan breaks it down

https://youtu.be/TcblQuIsEAE?si=9tXBJCFKF6KK_irn

Really? you guys still have hopes about that? lol

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I am a fan, not a cheerleader.

I am on the fence on Lawrence, IDK if he will ever be considered one of the elite Qbs in the league.

Matt Ryan breaks it down

https://youtu.be/TcblQuIsEAE?si=9tXBJCFKF6KK_irn

Really? you guys still have hopes about that? lol

Here's a guy from Big Cat Country saying that Trevor can't run Doug's system because it's a system for backups. Take what's there etc. It's around 1:26:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbQLviTf_wY&t=5121s

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Its a shame that all these mid-QBs right now are playing much better than Trevor… Cousins, Carr, Mayfield, etc.

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Sucks living outside of Jacksonville. All my friends rag on me for Trevor. Really hope he can turn it around so I stop being the butt of all the jokes.

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Sucks living outside of Jacksonville. All my friends rag on me for Trevor. Really hope he can turn it around so I stop being the butt of all the jokes.

Just remind them that Trevor is their Mom's favorite QB and that their ladies at home have a large BOB [boy on battery] under the bed that's teal with a #16 on it. Always charged too and ready for action in their endzone's.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Is that an intimidating statement made in a Trevor Lawrence voice?

LOL!  I meant "thread".  But yeah, that's funny right there.

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Are there levels to the TL threat? 

Like DEFCON?

Ha ha!

It's DEFCON Zero-and-Two.  Not the worst situation to be in, but tensions are escalating.

DEFCON levels go backwards. DEFCON 5 is standard, DEFCON 1 is the worst.

So if we're at TrevCon 0, we're in a full-blown nuclear war

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Sucks living outside of Jacksonville. All my friends rag on me for Trevor. Really hope he can turn it around so I stop being the butt of all the jokes.

I get a lot of crap myself, but luckily my closest football friends are actually pretty well informed about the game and are all high on Trevor and understand what our current situation is. Like us, they're all expecting big things from TLaw once we get this figured out.

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IT WAS ALWAYS THE JAGS

Highest receiver drop rate for NFL QB's through two weeks:

#1. Trevor Lawrence - 16.1%

Sooooo... Throw it less?

Throw it to RBs. (Just not DBs!)

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Sucks living outside of Jacksonville. All my friends rag on me for Trevor. Really hope he can turn it around so I stop being the butt of all the jokes.

Just remind them that Trevor is their Mom's favorite QB and that their ladies at home have a large BOB [boy on battery] under the bed that's teal with a #16 on it. Always charged too and ready for action in their endzone's.

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....you watching the same team I am?

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Sucks living outside of Jacksonville. All my friends rag on me for Trevor. Really hope he can turn it around so I stop being the butt of all the jokes.

I get a lot of crap myself, but luckily my closest football friends are actually pretty well informed about the game and are all high on Trevor and understand what our current situation is. Like us, they're all expecting big things from TLaw once we get this figured out.

read this as "closet football friends" and thought we haven't been that bad since the 2010's

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I am on the fence on Lawrence, IDK if he will ever be considered one of the elite Qbs in the league.

Matt Ryan breaks it down

https://youtu.be/TcblQuIsEAE?si=9tXBJCFKF6KK_irn

Without watching it yet. Just based on the thumbnail. I never had the impression Lawrence WAS a pure passer to begin with. Even at Clemson.

He's a tall athlete with underrated mobility and a very talented arm. However, he was never a classic "drop back and pass it" from the pocket Quarterback. Ever.

I was surprised and quite often called for MORE useage of his legs since his rookie season. Especially inside the redzone and near the goal line. He's also CLEARLY a better thrower when on the move.

Can he make throws from the pocket? Yes. Can he make unorthodox throws while back peddaling and off one foot? Yes. Is he Peyton Manning, Drew Brees or Dan Marino from the pocket? Of course not.

And he NEVER was. Anybody that watched him knew that though. I always saw him as a more mobile and willing runner than Aaron Rodgers with a strong arm and a bit of a wild streak in him like John Elway and Brett Favre.

He's not going to rip 4,600+ yards off in passing and 35+ passing TD's yearly. Not his game. He's more of the 4,000 yard type passer with maybe 20+ passing TD's with the 300 - 600 yards rushing and 4+ rushing TD's type Quarterback.

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Yes, Hell Yes, and Yes. Spot on analysis. He needs to be on the move in the red zone. Roll him one way or the other and tell him you have half the field - throw it to an open guy on that side; keep it and scramble or throw it away.

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Just remind them that Trevor is their Mom's favorite QB and that their ladies at home have a large BOB [boy on battery] under the bed that's teal with a #16 on it. Always charged too and ready for action in their endzone's.

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....you watching the same team I am?

Debbie does Dallas?

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."