Browsing through alot of other teams forum boards. One thing seems to be common is that majority of OL play is always at fault for their lack of success. I've seen this repeative behavior on gamedays with alot of NFL teams.

What is it? And why do you think that is?

In my humble opinion, is that most fans don't understand OL play. Many sacks are not because the OL was poor, many are due to the QB not throwing when he should, moving poorly in the pocket, or something similar.  Busted run plays less so, although they can also be the fault of the runner, not the blocker. A great OL coach once said that roughly 80% of bad runs in one of his seasons were because of misses by the OL. 20% is a large number to not be associated with the OL, yet most casual fans will assume it's their fault.  It's also the hardest position in football and possibly in sports. If a DE does nothing for 69 snaps but gets one sack every game, he finishes with 17 sacks and is an all pro. If an OT has 69 good snaps but gives up one sack every game, he has allowed 17 sacks and will probably get replaced.

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I think the first thing fans criticize when their team struggles is the play calling.

I find that most fans don't even understand how the OL is supposed to operate on 50% of the plays being called.
They are not quick to criticize it because they have no idea what they are saying.

I see little widespread OL criticism by comparison to the constant blathering about playcalling.

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It's because the NFL and the NFLPA agreed upon the pussification of it's product at the expense of player safety, profits and higher pay.

The most physically demanding unit in this sport, with the heaviest, strongest and freakiest of all athlete's is only allowed maybe 10 - 15 padded, full contact practices yearly now.

In conjunction with one less preseason game to work on chemistry, and even less snaps for starting units because you have to ensure the back half of your roster gets enough playing time for film study so difficult roster decisions can be made.

Think about it. You have a group of five guys that are well over 6 feet and 300 pounds on average being tasked to pivot, strike, punch, back pedal, bull forward, side swipe, swim, rip, jolt and jab probably well over 50 snaps per game.

Some guys will get what I am about to say next. Some won't. Pre exhaust sets. Not warm up sets. Pre exhaust sets. You need these in weight lifting, power lifting and body building to break the body down physically, as well as shocking your nervous system so it can become less static and more revved up and ready to go reflex and muscle memory wise to handle actual working sets and higher volume at that.

These guys don't get that anymore. It's as simple as that. That's why more bodily injuries are up while concussions are down as far as frequencies go. That's why through two weeks this year the rushing numbers for QBs is up by roughly 200-300 yards from last year's first two weeks. That's why guys like Lamar and Tua shed weight in the off season to get even faster.

Because they knew they would have to move to make plays in today's NFL. All the good QB's do it. You have to move to make plays now. Look at Kyler. Look at C.J. The game has already evolved to make up for this glaring weakness across the NFL.

Hence, why I keep saying in our Jaguars forum why they need to get Lawrence moving in and out of the pocket by design. His best NFL throws, if you look at his highlights, the grand majority of them are outside the pocket and on the move.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

I was watching Eagles/Falcons last night like holy crap their Oline is so damn good falcons wasn't bad either. I would love to see Trevor have a line like that.

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I was watching Eagles/Falcons last night like holy crap their Oline is so damn good falcons wasn't bad either. I would love to see Trevor have a line like that.

In contrast. Stroud and Williams at one point were competing to see who would be in the ER after that second half performance from both lines on SNF.

Every other drive I saw those two getting absolutely whacked or running to make a play with their arm. Stroud did. Damn near had one picked. Williams had two picked.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

I mean - the wiser of the talking heads out there who have NFL playing or coaching experience on their resumés do often talk about how the OL position prospects are coming out of college less and less prepared to transition to NFL caliber play.

That's been a trend for a probably a decade at this point, right?

I imagine that would go hand in hand with fans complaining about their OL, though I don't often see it when sifting through fan forums or comments from other teams. Except maybe the NYG fanbase in recent years.

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Not to worry. Next season, all the players will perform the musical "The King and I" in week 1. And "Hamilton" in week 2. The fans in the stadiums will eat that up.

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Rough.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DAPa-orsAUe/...R5YXl4bjZ3

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Rough.

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Clearly the guy called the wrong play!

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Rough.

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Clearly the guy called the wrong play!

You thought that was a good play call from the one? Lol

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2024/9/23/2...s-reaction

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Clearly the guy called the wrong play!

You thought that was a good play call from the one? Lol

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2024/9/23/2...s-reaction

Look at that picture, do you really think it mattered what [BLEEP] play was called? Do you think the execution was flawless and only the play call was to blame for FIVE linemen laying on the turf at the LOS?

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

It's pretty fun, but, if you go and look at page 459 in the actual Jaguars forum. You'll find threads regarding the C and G positions, Zone Run Blocking Vs. Regular Run Blocking, and how Bryan Stork from FSU was going to be a stud at Center in the NFL. All of this was from 2013.

This franchise doesn't know how to build an offensive line. Should hire Anthony Munoz, Jonathan Ogden, Orlando Pace, John Hannah and Bruce Matthews to nice salaries to scout offensive lineman for the next two years. Give me your best five lineman each from this class and figure out a way to draft at least three of them.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."