Brady and this roster sounds great!  But with Press as the OC that's game planning, scheming for the week's opponent, creating play designs, calling plays, and "making half-time adjustments"?

 I'm not so sure...  

You give me an OC from the Shannahan coaching tree, or the Leflour coaching tree, or the McVay coaching tree and I bet Trevor Lawrence would actually be living up to the potential we saw in 2022.

Man. So much this.

McVay/Shanny/LaFleur and Lawrence would be exactly the ticket for this franchise. Coaches who can actually scheme and game plan well. “But what about the OLine!”

Well, McVay and Lefluer been doing it for years.

Klint Kubiak

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Trevor is an orchid.

He'll only thrive in perfect conditions.

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He's not who we thought he was unfortunately.

Doesn't help that this team can't assist him but great QBs can lift their teams on their back.

He's got some work to do to get better - in addition to the rest of this team. We have failed him and he has failed us.

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Trevor is an orchid. 

He'll only thrive in perfect conditions.

There's some truth to this. He's simply not good under pressure, which is obviously not a good problem to have as a QB. Doesn't help when Trevor is now going on 3 straight years among dead last in the NFL in time to throw

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He's not who we thought he was unfortunately.

Doesn't help that this team can't assist him but great QBs can lift their teams on their back.

He's got some work to do to get better - in addition to the rest of this team. We have failed him and he has failed us.

He didn’t fail us. 

We failed him. 

I really do hope we run him out of town and he goes into success elsewhere.

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He's not who we thought he was unfortunately.

Doesn't help that this team can't assist him but great QBs can lift their teams on their back.

He's got some work to do to get better - in addition to the rest of this team. We have failed him and he has failed us.

He didn’t fail us. 

We failed him. 

I really do hope we run him out of town and he goes into success elsewhere.

Thank you!

Been saying it for a while now but this is Stafford and the Lions.

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He's not who we thought he was unfortunately.

Doesn't help that this team can't assist him but great QBs can lift their teams on their back.

He's got some work to do to get better - in addition to the rest of this team. We have failed him and he has failed us.

He didn’t fail us. 

We failed him. 

I really do hope we run him out of town and he goes into success elsewhere.

We certainly failed him, but let's not act like he hasn't failed us either.

Simple throws being missed consistently and egregious turnovers more games than not. The INT tonight was things you don't even see at pee-wee levels.

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He's not who we thought he was unfortunately.

Doesn't help that this team can't assist him but great QBs can lift their teams on their back.

He's got some work to do to get better - in addition to the rest of this team. We have failed him and he has failed us.

He didn’t fail us. 

We failed him. 

I really do hope we run him out of town and he goes into success elsewhere.

He won’t be going anywhere for a few years, but he’s looked horrible 3 weeks in a row. 8 straight losses and counting. Stafford showed flashes of being elite in Detroit. What game from Lawrence has left you saying, wow he’s going to be elite?

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He didn’t fail us. 

We failed him. 

I really do hope we run him out of town and he goes into success elsewhere.

He won’t be going anywhere for a few years, but he’s looked horrible 3 weeks in a row. 8 straight losses and counting. Stafford showed flashes of being elite in Detroit. What game from Lawrence has left you saying, wow he’s going to be elite?

Multiple games in 2022 and a few in 2023 but I also never counted in elite. I just wanted a decent QB for once in our pathetic existence as a franchise and this team is determined to just not let that happen

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I'm a BPA guy all the way. But we have been backed into a position where we have to go all oline and whatever it takes to help Ttevor now. We need to draft the best tackle in the draft and then trade back up for another high quality starter in the oline. We have passed up so many good olineman in the draft over the years we will now have to reach for lineman.

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He won’t be going anywhere for a few years, but he’s looked horrible 3 weeks in a row. 8 straight losses and counting. Stafford showed flashes of being elite in Detroit. What game from Lawrence has left you saying, wow he’s going to be elite?

Multiple games in 2022 and a few in 2023 but I also never counted in elite. I just wanted a decent QB for once in our pathetic existence as a franchise and this team is determined to just not let that happen

He just isn't decent

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He s becoming Doug's new Carson Wentz. Good for the 1st couple of years, Mediocre to bad after.

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"Remember Red, Hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."  - Andy Dufresne, The Shawshank Redemption

He s becoming Carson Wentz Part Deux. Good for the 1st couple of years,  Mediocre to bad after.

Couple?

One year. He had one good year, two years ago. He's cooked.

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He s becoming Carson Wentz Part Deux. Good for the 1st couple of years,  Mediocre to bad after.

Yup but a few people around here don't want to blame the same coach that ruined Wentz for doing the same with Lawrence.

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He s becoming Doug's new Carson Wentz. Good for the 1st couple of years,  Mediocre to bad after.

Look at his stats this year

Like 180 yds a game
50% completion percentage
2 passing TD's

AFTER 3 games

It does not get worse than that.  The offense line is bad but so is Trevor.  The announcers were calling out easy throws he was missing.

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You give Trevor a real Offensive minded HC with a real OC, and this whole thing changes.

We're back to playing an NFL style offense that nobody else runs. It's not Trevor. He's proven he can be a franchise QB. But when you have a coaching staff that has no clue how to actually run an offense, there's not a QB that we can bring in that will be succesful.

Hypothetical: Do you all think that Patrick Mahommes would actually be able to run this trash offense? There's no way. It's not the QB. It's the coaching.

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Daniel's

21/23 253 yrds 2 TD 0 int
40 rush yrds and 1 TD. Dude put that team on his back. Our roster is better than the Commander imo.

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He won’t be going anywhere for a few years, but he’s looked horrible 3 weeks in a row. 8 straight losses and counting. Stafford showed flashes of being elite in Detroit. What game from Lawrence has left you saying, wow he’s going to be elite?

Multiple games in 2022 and a few in 2023 but I also never counted in elite. I just wanted a decent QB for once in our pathetic existence as a franchise and this team is determined to just not let that happen

My only real memory where I said ok maybe Trevor is him, is when they came back in that playoff game against the Chargers. Then I remember, he threw 4 ints in that same game. Every regular season game I’ve never said WOW Trevor has some elite tools he can carry a team. There’s been times he makes a great throw, like the one to BTJ in Miami, but there’s just no consistency. He has yet to put together an elite game. Now, I understand elite QBs are a rarity, but it might be time to just understand he’s just not elite.

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He s becoming Carson Wentz Part Deux. Good for the 1st couple of years,  Mediocre to bad after.

Couple?

One year. He had one good year, two years ago. He's cooked.

He was doing fine considering his line play until that fateful MNF game last year. Something happened. I think the Carson Wentz comparison is apt. He got injured and then after then wasn’t the same. And guess who the common denominator is….

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Daniel's

21/23 253 yrds 2 TD 0 int
40 rush yrds and 1 TD.  Dude put that team on his back.  Our roster is better than the Commander imo.

But the Bengals are 0-3. Burrow is a bust a complete waste of money. He's terrible and everything wrong with the Bengals.

Am I doing it right?

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