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Report that Khan was "Angrier than I have ever seen from Khan" (And rightfully so)

#21
(This post was last modified: 09-24-2024, 11:01 AM by Caldrac.)

(09-24-2024, 10:25 AM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(09-24-2024, 10:08 AM)Caldrac Wrote: Fred Taylor said earlier today that Devin Lloyd is a weak link on defense and teams have been attacking him. Interesting...
You mean because he can't set the edge and he misses assignments?

Ya don't say.....
Well, I found that interesting because leading up to this game I was seeing PFF stats hyping Lloyd up over the last two games.

So, just found that interesting. We might be short Foye this Sunday, so, expect more Muma/Miller in the mix I guess.

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(09-24-2024, 10:58 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(09-24-2024, 09:46 AM)Caldrac Wrote: Really? Because Walker Little went out there and [BLEEP] the bed against back-up's as well. You think moving Anton Harrison to LT is the solution? After his start this year at RT? 

We don't have any solutions to our problems on this roster. It's now a cultural problem. We went from "make your kick, [BLEEP]!" to "warm kitty, soft kitty, come here and enjoy this vanilla ice cream flavored milk from the palms of my hands".

We're cooked.

Yes, I want Little at left tackle and Harrison at right for the rest of this year with an eye towards bringing Little back or moving Harrison over next year if he doesn't work out. We have Walker in the wings who graded out at right tackle/right guard in the draft to develop along with Tugboat who should already be in the lineup. Robinson and Scherff are holdovers that should be gone immediately.
That's fair. I agree with this. Time to shake things up. The next few games look "easier" on paper at least. Maybe they'll finally wake up and get on a roll.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."
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#23
(This post was last modified: 09-24-2024, 11:14 AM by Jagulars. Edited 1 time in total.)

(09-24-2024, 10:58 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(09-24-2024, 09:46 AM)Caldrac Wrote: Really? Because Walker Little went out there and [BLEEP] the bed against back-up's as well. You think moving Anton Harrison to LT is the solution? After his start this year at RT? 

We don't have any solutions to our problems on this roster. It's now a cultural problem. We went from "make your kick, [BLEEP]!" to "warm kitty, soft kitty, come here and enjoy this vanilla ice cream flavored milk from the palms of my hands".

We're cooked.

Yes, I want Little at left tackle and Harrison at right for the rest of this year with an eye towards bringing Little back or moving Harrison over next year if he doesn't work out. We have Walker in the wings who graded out at right tackle/right guard in the draft to develop along with Tugboat who should already be in the lineup. Robinson and Scherff are holdovers that should be gone immediately.

I have been all for this for the longest time. Cam Robinson was mediocre prior to the start of this season. Mediocre his entire career. Now, he has taken a huge step back this season. Trade him away and start Little at LT. Little playing LT for the remainder of the season will answer many questions on whether he should be starting long-term or not and how to go about fixing the rest of the OL next season. With the obvious first move to getting a new OL coach.
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#24

(09-24-2024, 10:59 AM)Caldrac Wrote:
(09-24-2024, 10:25 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: You mean because he can't set the edge and he misses assignments?

Ya don't say.....
Well, I found that interesting because leading up to this game I was seeing PFF stats hyping Lloyd up over the last two games.

So, just found that interesting. We might be short Foye this Sunday, so, expect more Muma/Miller in the mix I guess.

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(09-24-2024, 10:58 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Yes, I want Little at left tackle and Harrison at right for the rest of this year with an eye towards bringing Little back or moving Harrison over next year if he doesn't work out. We have Walker in the wings who graded out at right tackle/right guard in the draft to develop along with Tugboat who should already be in the lineup. Robinson and Scherff are holdovers that should be gone immediately.
That's fair. I agree with this. Time to shake things up. The next few games look "easier" on paper at least. Maybe they'll finally wake up and get on a roll.

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And Anton has a knee injury, so he might not even play this week. Might be Van Lanen instead. Against Hunter and Anderson. Eeeashhh.
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(09-24-2024, 11:15 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(09-24-2024, 10:59 AM)Caldrac Wrote: Well, I found that interesting because leading up to this game I was seeing PFF stats hyping Lloyd up over the last two games.

So, just found that interesting. We might be short Foye this Sunday, so, expect more Muma/Miller in the mix I guess.

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That's fair. I agree with this. Time to shake things up. The next few games look "easier" on paper at least. Maybe they'll finally wake up and get on a roll.

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And Anton has a knee injury, so he might not even play this week. Might be Van Lanen instead. Against Hunter and Anderson. Eeeashhh.
Incoming Mark Andersen career day and Danielle Hunter racking up his numbers as well.

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(This post was last modified: 09-24-2024, 11:32 AM by Jag149. Edited 1 time in total.)

Guys last night I had to make a decision to either watch the game or take a nice lady Argentine Tango dancing. I chose to go dancing. Why?

The Bills players coaches and fans felt set up by the NFL last year when they played the Jags in London. The Jags had a week to acclimate to the time difference the Bills not so much. The Jags played well the Bills not so much. The Bills returned home beat up and injured which led to a period of struggle for them. It was clear for the Bills it was a game of redemption and has been looked at for the last 365 days. To the Jags it was "just another " game.

This team actually has the talent to compete with anyone, but just like last year it has not been melded into a team. Just like last year the fragmentation has made it appear we have a team of Keystone cops. You younger guys may need to google "Keystone Cops". Last year the trip to London and success there galvanized the team and set it on a nice winning run. This could not be sustained by the players and coaches and it fell apart leading to the swoon last year. This shows me the current management (FO and coaches) are not strong (read organized/motivational) enough to develop and maintain this team.

Kahn has a right to be mad, it appears he has been misled by people he trusted. When this occurs with people like him it will quickly appear to evaporate. The disciplined part of the guy is triggered and solutions QUIETLY pursued unless there is an immediate solution on the market.

PS From what I have read, my priorities in this case were in order, dancing with a nice lady was a lot more fun.
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#27

Last night they played like we already had a player/coach purge lol
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#28

(09-24-2024, 11:28 AM)Caldrac Wrote:
(09-24-2024, 11:15 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: And Anton has a knee injury, so he might not even play this week. Might be Van Lanen instead. Against Hunter and Anderson. Eeeashhh.
Incoming Mark Andersen career day and Danielle Hunter racking up his numbers as well.

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Bruh, that game hit you so hard it knocked you a decade back in time.
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#30
(This post was last modified: 09-24-2024, 12:11 PM by Caldrac.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RAJilpsvO8

(09-24-2024, 11:45 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(09-24-2024, 11:28 AM)Caldrac Wrote: Incoming Mark Andersen career day and Danielle Hunter racking up his numbers as well.

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Bruh, that game hit you so hard it knocked you a decade back in time.

[BLEEP]. It did! I meant Will Anderson Jr. LOL.
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#31
(This post was last modified: 09-24-2024, 12:25 PM by WingerDinger. Edited 1 time in total.)

As a fan base, the only way to get these problems fixed is to stop buying tickets and going to the games..
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#32

(09-24-2024, 11:37 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: Last night they played like we already had a player/coach purge lol

Last night did give me 2018 vibes. A good team that played like it didn't care and a massive split between players, coaches and FO
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#33
(This post was last modified: 09-24-2024, 12:27 PM by SamusAranX. Edited 1 time in total.)

(09-24-2024, 11:31 AM)Jag149 Wrote: Guys last night I had to make a decision to either watch the game or take a nice lady Argentine Tango dancing.  I chose to go dancing. Why?

The Bills players coaches and fans felt set up by the NFL last year when they played the Jags in London. The Jags had a week to acclimate to the time difference the Bills not so much. The Jags played well the Bills not so much. The Bills returned home beat up and injured which led to a period of struggle for them.  It was clear for the Bills it was a game of redemption and has been looked at for the last 365 days. To the Jags it was "just another " game.

This team actually has the talent to compete with anyone, but just like last year it has not been melded into a team.  Just like last year the fragmentation has made it appear we have a team of Keystone cops. You younger guys may need to google "Keystone Cops". Last year the trip to London and success there galvanized the team and set it on a nice winning run. This could not be sustained by the players and coaches and it fell apart leading to the swoon last year. This shows me the current management (FO and coaches) are not strong (read organized/motivational) enough to develop and maintain this team. 

Kahn has a right to be mad, it appears he has been misled by people he trusted. When this occurs with people like him it will quickly appear to evaporate. The disciplined part of the guy is triggered and solutions QUIETLY pursued unless there is an immediate solution on the market. 

PS From what I have read, my priorities in this case were in order, dancing with a nice lady was a lot more fun.

This was me, I chose to play volleyball and just check the score in between and I’m glad I did. I felt bad about this game Based on the bills being pissed about last year and how this team is being coached
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#34
(This post was last modified: 09-24-2024, 01:01 PM by Jag88.)

(09-24-2024, 10:08 AM)Caldrac Wrote: Fred Taylor said earlier today that Devin Lloyd is a weak link on defense and teams have been attacking him. Interesting...

He can be slow and not quick. He can’t cover. I thought we were going to see him rush the passer. More lies. I thought we were going to attack. I don’t see any surprises except bad ones.

(09-24-2024, 12:22 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: As a fan base, the only way to get these problems fixed is to stop buying tickets and going to the games..

That doesn’t work.
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#35

Talk is cheap. Put up or shut up. It's that simple.

Khan didn't get to where he is in life (successful businessman) by being stupid but there's a difference between building a multimillion dollar company and building/running an NFL team. Fundamentals are the same but it's the details that are make or break. Executives are about the big picture and they pay others to know the details. Khan is not paying the right people.

JMHO
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#36

(09-24-2024, 10:08 AM)Caldrac Wrote: Fred Taylor said earlier today that Devin Lloyd is a weak link on defense and teams have been attacking him. Interesting...

This has been going on and off ever since he was drafted. That's probably why we sometimes see Chad Muma. Normally he would be a special teamer only.
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(09-24-2024, 01:22 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: Talk is cheap. Put up or shut up. It's that simple.

Khan didn't get to where he is in life (successful businessman) by being stupid but there's a difference between building a multimillion dollar company and building/running an NFL team. Fundamentals are the same but it's the details that are make or break. Executives are about the big picture and they pay others to know the details. Khan is not paying the right people.

JMHO

Or...and hear me out here...Khan got where he is by making money, which he's doing that hand over fist with this franchise just the way it is.
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(09-24-2024, 12:22 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: As a fan base, the only way to get these problems fixed is to stop buying tickets and going to the games..

Or, get to work organizing the next Klowntown event, which seemed to spark an immediate turn-around in this team’s fortunes.
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#39

(09-24-2024, 01:37 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(09-24-2024, 01:22 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: Talk is cheap. Put up or shut up. It's that simple.

Khan didn't get to where he is in life (successful businessman) by being stupid but there's a difference between building a multimillion dollar company and building/running an NFL team. Fundamentals are the same but it's the details that are make or break. Executives are about the big picture and they pay others to know the details. Khan is not paying the right people.

JMHO

Or...and hear me out here...Khan got where he is by making money, which he's doing that hand over fist with this franchise just the way it is.

You still don't get there by being stupid.
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(09-24-2024, 09:27 AM)Jagulars Wrote: https://twitter.com/Demetrius82/status/1...j8h3kcx0pb
He [BLEEP] deserves his anger.

(09-24-2024, 03:56 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote:
(09-24-2024, 01:37 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Or...and hear me out here...Khan got where he is by making money, which he's doing that hand over fist with this franchise just the way it is.

You still don't get there by being stupid.

That's a lie. One's simply gotta be less stupid than the people that'll make you rich. (US, in this case)
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