Long way to go before this, but I admit been thinking about it.  We will be in a much better position with this draft than many previous.  Despite the early season results we do have a lot more talent than in years past.  Enough that if we desire we CAN be in the position to use a rifle rather than shotgun approach to a portion of the draft.  The extra picks in rounds 3 and 4 are invaluable, giving us flexibility.  They also may give us some extra leverage recruiting coaching upgrades that may present themselves.

As long as it's not Baalke involved? I'll be fairly content. I want football players moving forward that are ready to plug and play with. No more developmental projects that will take a year or two to play wait and see with. 

I want a general manager that can have a loaded deck of fourteen overall draft picks and ACTUALLY move UP with them instead of saying "Well, we tried, and, we couldn't find any takers".

Meh, not buying that, you [BLEEP] suck at your job then in my opinion.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Long way to go before this, but I admit been thinking about it.  We will be in a much better position with this draft than many previous.  Despite the early season results we do have a lot more talent than in years past.  Enough that if we desire we CAN be in the position to use a rifle rather than shotgun approach to a portion of the draft.  The extra picks in rounds 3 and 4 are invaluable, giving us flexibility.  They also may give us some extra leverage recruiting coaching upgrades that may present themselves.

As long as it's not Baalke involved? I'll be fairly content. I want football players moving forward that are ready to plug and play with. No more developmental projects that will take a year or two to play wait and see with. 

I want a general manager that can have a loaded deck of fourteen overall draft picks and ACTUALLY move UP with them instead of saying "Well, we tried, and, we couldn't find any takers".

Meh, not buying that, you [BLEEP] suck at your job then in my opinion.

He never even needed to move up.  He got lucky and had guys fall right into his lap and he passed them up.  Torrence could have went in the 1st round and G was one of our biggest needs and he passed on him for Strange lol.  Torrence is now part of one of the best olines in football. 

 He had the 1at overall pick and had 2 very good corners or an elite pass rusher and he took Walker lol.  He's a horrendous drafter.  This team could be loaded right now with all the top picks we had and great player that were sitting there. It's comical one or 2 still think Walker was the right pick over the great players that were taken right behind him in the top 5.

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After week 4 we continue to have the 1st pick overall

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After week 4 we continue to the the 1st pick overall

#goals

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After week 4 we continue to the the 1st pick overall

#goals

At least we are consistent in something.

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Big heads up for all you drafting types hoping for more OL starters from the 2025 draft!

Analysts are saying this is the year that many of the high school players who went through two years of decreased development due to covid lockdowns will be hitting the draft.

Some are calling for only 2 OL players with a first round grade.

There's a decent chance that OL players taken in this class will need time to acclimate to the pro level mores than other recent years.
Probably worth its own thread now that I think about it.

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Big heads up for all you drafting types hoping for more OL starters from the 2025 draft!

Analysts are saying this is the year that many of the high school players who went through two years of decreased development due to covid lockdowns will be hitting the draft.

Some are calling for only 2 OL players with a first round grade.

There's a decent chance that OL players taken in this class will need time to acclimate to the pro level mores than other recent years.
Probably worth its own thread now that I think about it.

Yea, the 2024 draft was the time to stock up on offensive linemen.

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Big heads up for all you drafting types hoping for more OL starters from the 2025 draft!

Analysts are saying this is the year that many of the high school players who went through two years of decreased development due to covid lockdowns will be hitting the draft.

Some are calling for only 2 OL players with a first round grade.

There's a decent chance that OL players taken in this class will need time to acclimate to the pro level mores than other recent years.
Probably worth its own thread now that I think about it.

Yea, the 2024 draft was the time to stock up on offensive linemen.

God that's depressing...

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Yea, the 2024 draft was the time to stock up on offensive linemen.

God that's depressing...

No what is depressing is looking at the PFF grades of those linemen we passed up.

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

Big heads up for all you drafting types hoping for more OL starters from the 2025 draft!

Analysts are saying this is the year that many of the high school players who went through two years of decreased development due to covid lockdowns will be hitting the draft.

Some are calling for only 2 OL players with a first round grade.

There's a decent chance that OL players taken in this class will need time to acclimate to the pro level mores than other recent years.
Probably worth its own thread now that I think about it.

good thing we took advantage of the loaded darft last season [touches earpiece] wait, what?

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God that's depressing...

Jaguar fandom compressed down to three words.

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The good thing about this draft is there are 2 elite shutdown CBs and we need 1 of those. I think we will be able to add one starting oline piece in FA. There will be a couple of tackles at the top of the draft as well. Last year was a good draft to add a couple of interior olineaman we passed up on. Being only 2 lineman with first round grades likely won't affect us being we will probably be picking in the top 5 again and will be able to get our choice if we want one of Campbell or Banks.

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Big heads up for all you drafting types hoping for more OL starters from the 2025 draft!

Analysts are saying this is the year that many of the high school players who went through two years of decreased development due to covid lockdowns will be hitting the draft.

Some are calling for only 2 OL players with a first round grade.

There's a decent chance that OL players taken in this class will need time to acclimate to the pro level mores than other recent years.
Probably worth its own thread now that I think about it.

Yep. Heard that as well yesterday. I think Gen Jag did an emergency mock draft for fun yesterday, since we currently hold the #1 overall selection. It's early, but, so far? The first round in general is relatively weak. There shouldn't be too many players with first round grades on them.

This would be the year to either get your offensive lineman needs early or have the guts to trade up and double dip in my opinion. Which is something I have been doing in my simulators when applicable. 

If you're not getting Will Campbell or Kelvin Banks Jr. at LT in the 1st RD? Your next best bet is going to be going defense in RD1. Guys like Pearce, Graham and Hunter will more than likely attract phone calls for trade downs as well.

I would be tempted if we somehow, which, I don't think we will, end up getting that #1 overall pick. I would take a trade down for future selections. Eye big name schools with big lineman in hopes of having more NFL ready players during training camp. Georgia, Texas, Alabama, Ohio St. and Wisconsin should have relatively solid prospects to take from on day 2 and day 3.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

I think we need to look into signing Jedrick Wills in FA. He's had problems saying healthy the last couple years but I think if he checks out healthy later in the year I would sign him and he's only 25. Move Harrison to LT and Wills at RT, their natural positions in and then we can draft Hunter, Johnson, or Graham in the 1st. Ratlidge in the 2nd if he's healthy would be solid as well to help RG.

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I think we need to look into signing Jedrick Wills in FA.  He's had problems saying healthy the last couple years but I think if he checks out healthy later in the year I would sign him and he's only 25.  Move Harrison to LT and Wills at RT, their natural positions in and then we can draft Hunter, Johnson, or Graham in the 1st.  Ratlidge in the 2nd if he's healthy would be solid as well to help RG.

Meh. That's one of our main issues now isn't it? Injuries and continuity. Would rather just get a LT in the draft early, keep Harrison at RT going into year three, and find Morse's successor for 2026 and Scherff's replacements before RD5. 

I think it's doable. Ratledge is solid. Wouldn't mind the pick.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

I think we need to look into signing Jedrick Wills in FA.  He's had problems saying healthy the last couple years but I think if he checks out healthy later in the year I would sign him and he's only 25.  Move Harrison to LT and Wills at RT, their natural positions in and then we can draft Hunter, Johnson, or Graham in the 1st.  Ratlidge in the 2nd if he's healthy would be solid as well to help RG.

Meh. That's one of our main issues now isn't it? Injuries and continuity. Would rather just get a LT in the draft early, keep Harrison at RT going into year three, and find Morse's successor for 2026 and Scherff's replacements before RD5. 

I think it's doable. Ratledge is solid. Wouldn't mind the pick.

If injuries is you main concern you might want to get rid of Harrison as well.  Like I said, before I sign him he would have to check out 100% healthy.  

Wills might return this week and be good to go the rest of the season.  Wills is a good tackle and i think he would be even better at RT like he played in college, id have no problem putting Harrison at LT like he played in college and was very good.  I'd still bring in a tackle in FA so we aren't strapped come draft time and forced to take one if the value isnt there.  A long way till the draft but if Johnson or Hunter is the clear number 1 on my board and say I have Campbell as the 7th or 8th best play, I'm taking Hunter or Johnson. 

 I do really like Campbell and I want to see if Banks can help lead his team to a championship and dominate as well.  I think Hunter and Johnson are just as good or better than Stingley and Gardner as prospect though and will be All Pro corners and that is a massive need as well even though Brown has looked pretty good as of late.  Getting a All Pro corner like Hunter or Johnson will be very hard to pass up for me so hopefully we can address the oline in FA.

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Meh. That's one of our main issues now isn't it? Injuries and continuity. Would rather just get a LT in the draft early, keep Harrison at RT going into year three, and find Morse's successor for 2026 and Scherff's replacements before RD5. 

I think it's doable. Ratledge is solid. Wouldn't mind the pick.

If injuries is you main concern you might want to get rid of Harrison as well.  Like I said, before I sign him he would have to check out 100% healthy.  

Wills might return this week and be good to go the rest of the season.  Wills is a good tackle and i think he would be even better at RT like he played in college, id have no problem putting Harrison at LT like he played in college and was very good.  I'd still bring in a tackle in FA so we aren't strapped come draft time and forced to take one if the value isnt there.  A long way till the draft but if Johnson or Hunter is the clear number 1 on my board and say I have Campbell as the 7th or 8th best play, I'm taking Hunter or Johnson. 

 I do really like Campbell and I want to see if Banks can help lead his team to a championship and dominate as well.  I think Hunter and Johnson are just as good or better than Stingley and Gardner as prospect though and will be All Pro corners and that is a massive need as well even though Brown has looked pretty good as of late.  Getting a All Pro corner like Hunter or Johnson will be very hard to pass up for me so hopefully we can address the oline in FA.

Injuries are always a concern. That's why I would live Harrison alone at RT going into year three for the sake of continuity and development overall. We've had enough injury issues with Robinson at LT for years now. Better off finding a blue chip prospect early at LT in my opinion with a relatively clean bill of health. 

It's just really early in my opinion. A lot can happen. I do agree with you on Hunter. I think that kid is very talented and special. I see a big time playmaker in him with a very humble and quiet confidence to him. He's somebody you can plug and play with from day one. I am thinking more along the lines of this team completely going down the drain though.

With them getting the #1 overall selection. I just don't see it. I could see them getting on a winning streak and playing themselves out of the top five at the minimum, possibly even outside the top ten or better. Banks is probably the most likely LT to be available in my opinion for this football team. Along with Texas A&M's Scourton as en EDGE rusher.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

If injuries is you main concern you might want to get rid of Harrison as well.  Like I said, before I sign him he would have to check out 100% healthy.  

Wills might return this week and be good to go the rest of the season.  Wills is a good tackle and i think he would be even better at RT like he played in college, id have no problem putting Harrison at LT like he played in college and was very good.  I'd still bring in a tackle in FA so we aren't strapped come draft time and forced to take one if the value isnt there.  A long way till the draft but if Johnson or Hunter is the clear number 1 on my board and say I have Campbell as the 7th or 8th best play, I'm taking Hunter or Johnson. 

 I do really like Campbell and I want to see if Banks can help lead his team to a championship and dominate as well.  I think Hunter and Johnson are just as good or better than Stingley and Gardner as prospect though and will be All Pro corners and that is a massive need as well even though Brown has looked pretty good as of late.  Getting a All Pro corner like Hunter or Johnson will be very hard to pass up for me so hopefully we can address the oline in FA.

Injuries are always a concern. That's why I would live Harrison alone at RT going into year three for the sake of continuity and development overall. We've had enough injury issues with Robinson at LT for years now. Better off finding a blue chip prospect early at LT in my opinion with a relatively clean bill of health. 

It's just really early in my opinion. A lot can happen. I do agree with you on Hunter. I think that kid is very talented and special. I see a big time playmaker in him with a very humble and quiet confidence to him. He's somebody you can plug and play with from day one. I am thinking more along the lines of this team completely going down the drain though.

With them getting the #1 overall selection. I just don't see it. I could see them getting on a winning streak and playing themselves out of the top five at the minimum, possibly even outside the top ten or better. Banks is probably the most likely LT to be available in my opinion for this football team. Along with Texas A&M's Scourton as en EDGE rusher.

You need to check out Johnson more man, he's a great corner and maybe my favorite player in the draft right now.  I know Hunter can play offense and defense but pure corner, Johnson might be better and he is thicker which i think helps for injury.  Johnson should be back this week.  I think both will be All Pro corners.  Like you say though, its a long way to go and a lot of football to be played.  

I would love to add a All Pro type LT though just like you.  Trey Smith is the one FA addition i want most, RG would be fixed.  I wanted Smith in the 3rd and few year back and he went in the 6th and has been one of the best guards in football.  I hope Chiefs can't afford him.  I'd sign Wills and Smith if possible even if we have to make some cuts, whatever it takes.  I still think Harrison is a more natural LT like he played in college and he would be more comfortable there, Wills at Rt like in college.  

Harrison - Cleveland -Morse- Smith- Wills.  Or you could flip the tackles if you want.

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Even if we signed Wills and Smith it wouldn't stop me from drafting lineman

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I think we need to look into signing Jedrick Wills in FA.  He's had problems saying healthy the last couple years but I think if he checks out healthy later in the year I would sign him and he's only 25.  Move Harrison to LT and Wills at RT, their natural positions in and then we can draft Hunter, Johnson, or Graham in the 1st.  Ratlidge in the 2nd if he's healthy would be solid as well to help RG.

Meh. That's one of our main issues now isn't it? Injuries and continuity. Would rather just get a LT in the draft early, keep Harrison at RT going into year three, and find Morse's successor for 2026 and Scherff's replacements before RD5. 

I think it's doable. Ratledge is solid. Wouldn't mind the pick.

Me too. Get the big guys early.

With the way Harrison has fallen off a cliff, dunno that I want him at LT. Definitely don't want to throw money at the oft-injured.

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Meh. That's one of our main issues now isn't it? Injuries and continuity. Would rather just get a LT in the draft early, keep Harrison at RT going into year three, and find Morse's successor for 2026 and Scherff's replacements before RD5. 

I think it's doable. Ratledge is solid. Wouldn't mind the pick.

Me too. Get the big guys early.

With the way Harrison has fallen off a cliff, dunno that I want him at LT. Definitely don't want to throw money at the oft-injured.

Yep. Agreed on both fronts.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Meh. That's one of our main issues now isn't it? Injuries and continuity. Would rather just get a LT in the draft early, keep Harrison at RT going into year three, and find Morse's successor for 2026 and Scherff's replacements before RD5. 

I think it's doable. Ratledge is solid. Wouldn't mind the pick.

Me too. Get the big guys early.

With the way Harrison has fallen off a cliff, dunno that I want him at LT. Definitely don't want to throw money at the oft-injured.

You would rather Luke Joeckel over Sauce Gardner?  Get the big guys early right?  It would be nice but you have to take the right guy.  Im not taking a tackle early just because its a need. Still a long way in the season and if Harrison has fallen off a cliff by season end like you say we need 2 tackles not just 1. Also if you draft a tackle that is was very good at LT and played there his college career and change his position and he falls off a cliff, you might want to try him back at the position he was very good at. Same with Armstead, he should be playing DT like he did in SF

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