The AFC is wide open in my opinion. Even the good teams are not nearly as dominate as people would think if you really look at those games they were in. The Chiefs and tinhorns in particular. This could be one of those odd years where a wildcard team ends up getting hot and winning the Superbowl.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

They are bad everywhere on O. Every. Where. Still have no idea how anyone thought they were championship caliber.

Not complaining, perfectly fine with A. A. Ron mired on a miserable team and we certainly don't need anyone else competing for the AFC crown.

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I think you messed up the syntax there...."in this weak division" might have been the proper phrasing.

The fact that the dysfunctional Jest are in the conversation says everything that needs to be said about that division.

Hahahaha Dude. Pretty sure someone on this board said they would win the Super Bowl.

I said they would if Rodgers plays like the old A Rod.  Not sure if you have seen the Jets play the last few weeks the but Rodgers has looked like a shell of his former self.  If they start getting the old Rodgers they will absolutely make a run.  The oline has to start playing better to help Rodgers and the run game. They held the Broncos to 60 yrds passing and still lost lol.

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How can the Jets fire him, I thought he played for Liverpool FC

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Hackett has been demoted, no more play calling

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Hahahaha Dude. Pretty sure someone on this board said they would win the Super Bowl.

I said they would if Rodgers plays like the old A Rod.  Not sure if you have seen the Jets play the last few weeks the but Rodgers has looked like a shell of his former self.  If they start getting the old Rodgers they will absolutely make a run.  The oline has to start playing better to help Rodgers and the run game.  They held the Broncos to 60 yrds passing and still lost lol.

@hard to believe, innit?@

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I said they would if Rodgers plays like the old A Rod.  Not sure if you have seen the Jets play the last few weeks the but Rodgers has looked like a shell of his former self.  If they start getting the old Rodgers they will absolutely make a run.  The oline has to start playing better to help Rodgers and the run game.  They held the Broncos to 60 yrds passing and still lost lol.

@hard to believe, innit?@

Being the oline is ranked 27th in run blocking and pass blocking, not really. Just like it's not hard to believe Hall hasn't looked good with that oline

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@hard to believe, innit?@

Being the oline is ranked 27th in run blocking and pass blocking, not really.  Just like it's not hard to believe Hall hasn't looked good with that oline

Joe Douglas is apart of the problem. Surprised Woody didn't fire him along with Saleh. He's invested a good amount of 1st RD picks on this offensive line as well and he's not getting any results.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Getting dicey with the Jets. 

NFL Rumors: Woody Johnson Didn't Consult Jets GM, Staff Before Firing Robert Saleh | News, Scores, Highlights, Stats, and Rumors | Bleacher Report

Interim Jets HC Jeff Ulbrich reveals how Aaron Rodgers reacted to Nathaniel Hackett being stripped of play calling duties (sportskeeda.com)

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Getting dicey with the Jets. 

NFL Rumors: Woody Johnson Didn't Consult Jets GM, Staff Before Firing Robert Saleh | News, Scores, Highlights, Stats, and Rumors | Bleacher Report

Interim Jets HC Jeff Ulbrich reveals how Aaron Rodgers reacted to Nathaniel Hackett being stripped of play calling duties (sportskeeda.com)

So, this is the guys resume in which the Jets are turning over the offensive play calls to.  I guess they figure nothing can be worse then Hackett.

Eden Prairie HS (MN) (1999–2000) - Assistant freshmen coach
Minnesota Vikings (2005) - Offensive quality control coach
St. Louis Rams (2006–2007) - Defensive assistant & Special teams assistant
St. Louis Rams (2008) - Defensive quality control coach
Detroit Lions (2009) - Offensive quality control coach
Detroit Lions (2010–2011) - Assistant quarterbacks coach
Detroit Lions (2012–2013) - Quarterbacks coach
Buffalo Bills (2014) - Quarterbacks coach
Oakland Raiders (2015–2016) - Quarterbacks coach
Oakland Raiders (2017) - Offensive coordinator
Minnesota Vikings (2018) - Tight ends coach
Tennessee Titans (2019–2020) - Tight ends coach
Tennessee Titans (2021–2022) - Offensive coordinator
New York Jets (2023) - Passing game coordinator
New York Jets (2024–present) - Quarterbacks coach & passing game coordinator

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@hard to believe, innit?@

Being the oline is ranked 27th in run blocking and pass blocking, not really.  Just like it's not hard to believe Hall hasn't looked good with that oline

(A. A. Ron was showing signs of being a shell of his former self before the Achilles)

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I read something where the Jets still have to pay him over the next two years and it comes out close to $20,000 per day. $583K per month. $799 per hour. $13.32 per minute. LOL.

That's rough man.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

I read something where the Jets still have to pay him over the next two years and it comes out close to $20,000 per day. $583K per month. $799 per hour. $13.32 per minute. LOL.

That's rough man.

It's good work if you can get it.

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Can the Jags hire him as a defensive consultant? Help out RN?

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Can the Jags hire him as a defensive consultant? Help out RN?

He basically runs the same Defense that Gus Bradley does (Saleh is from his tree), do we really want to try and go back into that again?

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Can the Jags hire him as a defensive consultant? Help out RN?

At this point, i d try him at HC.

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