Doug is safe. Shad said so.

No. He did not. He said he still believes in him. Which could very well mean he simply isn't throwing him under the bus publicly..... Yet.

Shads history says they both ain’t going no where. This regime will rule for the next decade. Changes are not happening.

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I can't believe how bad the D looks. We've had some bad D's over the years but this one is right up there. It's how quickly and epically they collapse that gets me. They looked so good that first week in Miami, it's crazy how far they've dropped.

In an ideal situation, Ben Johnson as HC/OC and someone like Saleh as DC I'd be happy with but can't see either rushing to come here.

No one will come here if Baalke remains GM

Yeah. Starts with ownership doing what must be done and that's turning the entire house upside down and shaking everything out of it for good. Have already thrown my ideas around out there. But, to reiterate, in short:

Rick Spielman (Independent), Chris Spielman (Detroit), Thomas Dimitroff (Independent) or Ozzie Newsome (Baltimore) for VP of Football Operations.

Ray Agnew for General Manager along with Ben Johnson as the HC/OC from DET. 

James Liipfert for General Manager along with Bobby Slowik as the HC/OC HOU. 

Mark Azevedo for General Manager along with Chris Hewitt as HC.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Give it one more game. If they make Drake Maye and the New England Patriots look like the second coming of Tom Brady in his peak? [BLEEP] ALL OF THEM. I start cleaning house in London for this [BLEEP] show.

Even if we luck out and beat the Pats that's not good enough.  Everyone needs to be fired regardless even if we beat the Pats or not.  I'd wait till the end of the season though unless they want BB.

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So Neilson was a good DC in Atlanta but terrible for us? I 'm conficent the reason for that isn't that he was lucky in Atlanta.

It's lack of depth coupled with injuries.

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No. He did not. He said he still believes in him. Which could very well mean he simply isn't throwing him under the bus publicly..... Yet.

Shads history says they both ain’t going no where. This regime will rule for the next decade. Changes are not happening.

Actually, his history tells us we are approaching the point where he WILL make a change. Only coach to make it to season 4 was Marrone and that's solely because he took them to within a play or two of the SB. This is Pedersons 3rd season, and the team has regressed each season. He is well in that window. But, Khan doesn't tend to fire mid-season. He will do it at or very near the end of the season most likely.

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No one will come here if Baalke remains GM

Yeah. Starts with ownership doing what must be done and that's turning the entire house upside down and shaking everything out of it for good. Have already thrown my ideas around out there. But, to reiterate, in short:

Rick Spielman (Independent), Chris Spielman (Detroit), Thomas Dimitroff (Independent) or Ozzie Newsome (Baltimore) for VP of Football Operations.

Ray Agnew for General Manager along with Ben Johnson as the HC/OC from DET. 

James Liipfert for General Manager along with Bobby Slowik as the HC/OC HOU. 

Mark Azevedo for General Manager along with Chris Hewitt as HC.

You know it’s bad when in hindsight Leftwich would have been the better hire because he would have forced a change at GM

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Nielsen sucks. Can't sugarcoat it for him. He was praised for his work in NOLA, but, he was the CO-Defensive coordinator there. It was still Dennis Allen running the defense and coaching the whole team. He had one decent year under his belt last year with the Falcons but there wasn't anything there really that would make you think he was some type of rockstar hiring.

Pederson sucks. He doesn't know defense for [BLEEP]. He needs a quality, former head coach type that can handle the defense for him. No different than what Andy Reid has done with Spaggs in KC and it was no different than what he did with the Eagles when he had Schwartz.

This team is cooked. They let the Bears bully them just like they did the Panthers last week. The Panthers have their excuses for that. We don't. Those losses to BUF, MIA and CLE really sting now when you consider how poor those three teams have been playing lately.

It's time to uproot and replant something new to grow. They suck.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Let's get this clear - this is NOT a talented team. I don't get why people keep saying this. There are no star players to build around, unless you count Trevor and he's likely been ruined by the Jags organization already. JHA and Travon Walker can totally disappear for games at a time, the LBers are average at best and the secondary is awful. BTJ is the only WR worth keeping around. The O-line is horrendous. Engram is past his prime and overpaid. Strange is average. The team has a ton of cap money tied up in players that are past their prime and underperforming.

The only good thing is that there are only 32 head coaching positions in the NFL, so at least one good coordinator can be lured to the Jaguars next year. IF Baalke is gone. If Khan keep Baalke around then all bets are off.

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Shads history says they both ain’t going no where. This regime will rule for the next decade. Changes are not happening.

Actually, his history tells us we are approaching the point where he WILL make a change. Only coach to make it to season 4 was Marrone and that's solely because he took them to within a play or two of the SB. This is Pedersons 3rd season, and the team has regressed each season. He is well in that window. But, Khan doesn't tend to fire mid-season. He will do it at or very near the end of the season most likely.

 
Don’t be disappointed when no changes happen. All I’m saying.

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Yeah. Starts with ownership doing what must be done and that's turning the entire house upside down and shaking everything out of it for good. Have already thrown my ideas around out there. But, to reiterate, in short:

Rick Spielman (Independent), Chris Spielman (Detroit), Thomas Dimitroff (Independent) or Ozzie Newsome (Baltimore) for VP of Football Operations.

Ray Agnew for General Manager along with Ben Johnson as the HC/OC from DET. 

James Liipfert for General Manager along with Bobby Slowik as the HC/OC HOU. 

Mark Azevedo for General Manager along with Chris Hewitt as HC.

You know it’s bad when in hindsight Leftwich would have been the better hire because he would have forced a change at GM

What's he up to these days? I think he wanted to bring Adrian Wilson with him as the GM as well if he was hired as a coach.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

I can't believe how bad the D looks. We've had some bad D's over the years but this one is right up there. It's how quickly and epically they collapse that gets me. They looked so good that first week in Miami, it's crazy how far they've dropped.

In an ideal situation, Ben Johnson as HC/OC and someone like Saleh as DC I'd be happy with but can't see either rushing to come here.

It's time for everyone to understand that nobody is coming to Jacksonville if they can avoid it. No young OC/DC is going to waste his opportunity to be HC for that.

If they replace Baalke with someone good, they will.  Some may even see the job security here to be highly desirable.  It's the one silver lining to Khan being so reluctant to fire people.

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So Neilson was a good DC in Atlanta but terrible for us? I 'm conficent the reason for that isn't that he was lucky in Atlanta.

It's lack of depth coupled with injuries.

We only have 1 starter out in the secondary

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Let's get this clear - this is NOT a talented team.  I don't get why people keep saying this.  There are no star players to build around, unless you count Trevor and he's likely been ruined by the Jags organization already.  JHA and Travon Walker can totally disappear for games at a time, the LBers are average at best and the secondary is awful. BTJ is the only WR worth keeping around.  The O-line is horrendous.  Engram is past his prime and overpaid.  Strange is average.  The team has a ton of cap money tied up in players that are past their prime and underperforming. 

The only good thing is that there are only 32 head coaching positions in the NFL, so at least one good coordinator can be lured to the Jaguars next year. IF Baalke is gone.  If Khan keep Baalke around then all bets are off.

  

Bingo.

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Engram over the hill? Guys I know it’s bad but let’s not overreact

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This team is undisciplined with a coach that is too soft on them. The GM is a clown.
We're seeing other teams like the bears and commanders rebuild to contenders while we're just mediocre year after year.

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Because Jaguars is our mantra 

Actually, his history tells us we are approaching the point where he WILL make a change. Only coach to make it to season 4 was Marrone and that's solely because he took them to within a play or two of the SB. This is Pedersons 3rd season, and the team has regressed each season. He is well in that window. But, Khan doesn't tend to fire mid-season. He will do it at or very near the end of the season most likely.

 
Don’t be disappointed when no changes happen. All I’m saying.

I wouldnt be. But your assessment of Khans willingness to change coaches is completely inaccurate. He has shown he is quite willing to make changes.

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Actually, his history tells us we are approaching the point where he WILL make a change. Only coach to make it to season 4 was Marrone and that's solely because he took them to within a play or two of the SB. This is Pedersons 3rd season, and the team has regressed each season. He is well in that window. But, Khan doesn't tend to fire mid-season. He will do it at or very near the end of the season most likely.

 
Don’t be disappointed when no changes happen. All I’m saying.

They're coming. There's no way they're not coming. Too much public pressure now and that stadium deal will add even more pressure to make a change towards the end of this year. 

Doug's negligence with the defensive side of the football, coupled with Baalke's exuberant spending and draft investments made on that side of the field are overwhelmingly concerning and the offense being the ultimate Jekyll and Hyde or Groundhog offense make it even worse. 

There's just not enough good laying around to hang our hats on with this football team. They need a culture shock, a clear identity established and we need to move on while we can. 

I have seen enough. Tired of giving Pederson the benefit of the doubt and I am especially tired of seeing Baalke blunder what's left of Lawrence's potential prime years. The fact that we're seeing this offense stall out like this while other QB's like Caleb Williams, C.J Stroud and Jayden Daniles are flourishing should also be raising everybody's eyebrows. 

We have "some" talent on offense that's very easy to build around. We have "some" talent on defense that's very easy to build around. We just need the right team builder and coaching staff to build it and cultivate it.

The longer Khan puts off the inevitable, the longer his pain and anguish will burn amongst the fanbase. He should be embarrassed and feel humiliated at this point. This team has made him look like a fool.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

 
Don’t be disappointed when no changes happen. All I’m saying.

I wouldnt be. But your assessment of Khans willingness to change coaches is completely inaccurate. He has shown he is quite willing to make changes.

The guarantee is both Baalke and Doug will not be fired together. He’s totally against that. It’s guaranteed one stays, and Doug is coming off back to back winning seasons. Baalke is a god according to Shad. Shad is not making changes dude. Not happening.

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Let's get this clear - this is NOT a talented team.  I don't get why people keep saying this.  There are no star players to build around, unless you count Trevor and he's likely been ruined by the Jags organization already.  JHA and Travon Walker can totally disappear for games at a time, the LBers are average at best and the secondary is awful. BTJ is the only WR worth keeping around.  The O-line is horrendous.  Engram is past his prime and overpaid.  Strange is average.  The team has a ton of cap money tied up in players that are past their prime and underperforming. 

The only good thing is that there are only 32 head coaching positions in the NFL, so at least one good coordinator can be lured to the Jaguars next year. IF Baalke is gone.  If Khan keep Baalke around then all bets are off.

Engram had almost 1000 yrds last year and had over 100 in his first game back.  He's a top 5-7 TE.  He's in his prime and last year was the best of his career

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It's lack of depth coupled with injuries.

We only have 1 starter out in the secondary

Wingard and Tyson and Tyson being out is huge.

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