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*** Official Gameday Thread: Jags@Bears***


(10-13-2024, 01:02 PM)Caldrac Wrote:
(10-13-2024, 12:57 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote:  
Don’t be disappointed when no changes happen. All I’m saying.

They're coming. There's no way they're not coming. Too much public pressure now and that stadium deal will add even more pressure to make a change towards the end of this year. 

Doug's negligence with the defensive side of the football, coupled with Baalke's exuberant spending and draft investments made on that side of the field are overwhelmingly concerning and the offense being the ultimate Jekyll and Hyde or Groundhog offense make it even worse. 

There's just not enough good laying around to hang our hats on with this football team. They need a culture shock, a clear identity established and we need to move on while we can. 

I have seen enough. Tired of giving Pederson the benefit of the doubt and I am especially tired of seeing Baalke blunder what's left of Lawrence's potential prime years. The fact that we're seeing this offense stall out like this while other QB's like Caleb Williams, C.J Stroud and Jayden Daniles are flourishing should also be raising everybody's eyebrows. 

We have "some" talent on offense that's very easy to build around. We have "some" talent on defense that's very easy to build around. We just need the right team builder and coaching staff to build it and cultivate it.

The longer Khan puts off the inevitable, the longer his pain and anguish will burn amongst the fanbase. He should be embarrassed and feel humiliated at this point. This team has made him look like a fool.

I agree with what you’re saying, but Shads not making changes. It’s unfortunate.
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(10-13-2024, 01:02 PM)Caldrac Wrote:
(10-13-2024, 12:57 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote:  
Don’t be disappointed when no changes happen. All I’m saying.

They're coming. There's no way they're not coming. Too much public pressure now and that stadium deal will add even more pressure to make a change towards the end of this year. 

Doug's negligence with the defensive side of the football, coupled with Baalke's exuberant spending and draft investments made on that side of the field are overwhelmingly concerning and the offense being the ultimate Jekyll and Hyde or Groundhog offense make it even worse. 

There's just not enough good laying around to hang our hats on with this football team. They need a culture shock, a clear identity established and we need to move on while we can. 

I have seen enough. Tired of giving Pederson the benefit of the doubt and I am especially tired of seeing Baalke blunder what's left of Lawrence's potential prime years. The fact that we're seeing this offense stall out like this while other QB's like Caleb Williams, C.J Stroud and Jayden Daniles are flourishing should also be raising everybody's eyebrows. 

We have "some" talent on offense that's very easy to build around. We have "some" talent on defense that's very easy to build around. We just need the right team builder and coaching staff to build it and cultivate it.

The longer Khan puts off the inevitable, the longer his pain and anguish will burn amongst the fanbase. He should be embarrassed and feel humiliated at this point. This team has made him look like a fool.

I agree.

At this point, I don't see how this team turns this season around.  We'll win 5 games, maybe?  This is unacceptable.  

As far as I'm concerned, it's not a matter of "if" they fire Baalke and Pederson, it's a matter of "when".
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(10-13-2024, 01:05 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote:
(10-13-2024, 12:57 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: We only have 1 starter out in the secondary

Wingard and Tyson and Tyson being out is huge.

Wingard wasn't a starter but he should be.  Yes Cambell is out but some teams have multiple starters out and don't miss a beat.  Look at the Bears today, just one of many
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Congrats on being the first team officially out of playoff contention.

We're now in the mathematical chance zone.
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Wooo another year another loss
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Cisco's post game interview was disheartening to hear. He basically said the defense "quit" and he's the last line of defense. That shouldn't be coming out of any players mouth at any level. No matter how bleak it all seems.

Man, had high hopes for this season. Had really high hopes for this team in particular. Thought last year was just an oddity. I was wrong. This is who they are. A ship without a captain. A treasure seeker without a map.

Time to hang this little stuffed piggy upside down and gut it all out. It's rotten to the core man. It stinks.
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(10-13-2024, 03:26 PM)Caldrac Wrote: Cisco's post game interview was disheartening to hear. He basically said the defense "quit" and he's the last line of defense. That shouldn't be coming out of any players mouth at any level. No matter how bleak it all seems.

Man, had high hopes for this season. Had really high hopes for this team in particular. Thought last year was just an oddity. I was wrong. This is who they are. A ship without a captain. A treasure seeker without a map.

Time to hang this little stuffed piggy upside down and gut it all out. It's rotten to the core man. It stinks.

We get like 1 playoff appearance every 10 years under Khan, he picks crappy people. He chases fool's gold and just won't break out the broom. The transition times are faulty.
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Oh, we had a game today? did they tell the players to show up? I thought they had a tour of Piccadilly Square scheduled.
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(10-13-2024, 03:34 PM)Jag149 Wrote: Oh, we had a game today?  did they tell the players to show up? I thought they had a tour of Piccadilly Square scheduled.

Hey, look at the bright side, nobody got arrested over there this time.
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Who had the sack that was called back? Second half I believe.
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(10-13-2024, 03:29 PM)MoJagFan Wrote:
(10-13-2024, 03:26 PM)Caldrac Wrote: Cisco's post game interview was disheartening to hear. He basically said the defense "quit" and he's the last line of defense. That shouldn't be coming out of any players mouth at any level. No matter how bleak it all seems.

Man, had high hopes for this season. Had really high hopes for this team in particular. Thought last year was just an oddity. I was wrong. This is who they are. A ship without a captain. A treasure seeker without a map.

Time to hang this little stuffed piggy upside down and gut it all out. It's rotten to the core man. It stinks.

We get like 1 playoff appearance every 10 years under Khan, he picks crappy people. He chases fool's gold and just won't break out the broom. The transition times are faulty.

I hope he's learned his lesson this time. You go back to the whole hiring process after Urban Meyer and look at how long it took to start with Doug Pederson and end with Doug Pederson. Nobody wanted to walk into this situation handcuffed to the previous General Manager that had already built up a reputation of selling fool's gold or peddling sterling as silver. 

He has to get it right this time. In about eight weeks he needs to make an important decision for this team's future. Because I can tell you that future clearly does not have Doug nor Trent in it with their respective staff's. They all have to go. 

(10-13-2024, 03:34 PM)Jag149 Wrote: Oh, we had a game today?  did they tell the players to show up? I thought they had a tour of Piccadilly Square scheduled.

They quit. Cisco said the quiet part out loud. Our Superbowl was last week at home against the clots. They're done now until next year. Everybody's already thinking about their off season vacation plans. Hell, some of them are probably already booking cabin trips up into the mountains mid season when we get around week 17. 

[BLEEP] it. Nobody cares.
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(10-13-2024, 03:45 PM)SuperJville Wrote: Who had the sack that was called back? Second half I believe.

Travon.  He also had several moments of good pressure during the game.  Had a hand on and pressured Caleb into RRH for a sack in the 1st quarter IIRC.  I think he had a hand on Caleb a few times actually.
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I saw maason got his first sack ?
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(This post was last modified: 10-13-2024, 04:14 PM by JagFan81.)

(10-13-2024, 12:43 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote:
(10-13-2024, 12:37 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: I can't believe how bad the D looks. We've had some bad D's over the years but this one is right up there. It's how quickly and epically they collapse that gets me. They looked so good that first week in Miami, it's crazy how far they've dropped.

In an ideal situation, Ben Johnson as HC/OC and someone like Saleh as DC I'd be happy with but can't see either rushing to come here.

Campbell going out in the opener was a huge loss.  To a lesser extent, losing Wingard in the preseason may have had a bigger impact than we initially assigned to it.  Couple that with Darby and Armstead being underwhelming.  Hopefully Armstead still has some room for improvement after recovering from injury.

Hey! You make some good points, the injuries in the secondary have hurt and so has losing Oluokon. The backups have really struggled but it seems the players are struggling with the system. I think before the game one of the sideline reporters said Doug had said a lot of the big plays were from miscommunication and players not playing their assignments correctly. I expect a learning curve with a new system but the D is 32nd at the moment and giving up 35+ points in nearly every game lately.

You either change the system to fit what you have or simplify what your doing as its not working at the moment. They also have to get more from players. Armstead looks a shadow of the guy from San Francisco. Darby was great for Baltimore last year, now he's an easy completion.

(10-13-2024, 04:13 PM)StrayaJag Wrote: I saw maason got his first sack ?

It was a scramble by Williams that didn't quite get back to LOS.
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I’m so glad I didn’t see the game today. (During church time for me). Can’t believe how bad they are this year. I’m starting to feel like I did all those years I was a Falcons fan before there was a Jaguars franchise. No hope. Expect failure. Oh, well. Time to find a flavor of the week to enjoy while my team stomps on my heart.


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Glad I was too hungover to get out of bed this morning to watch the game. I checked the score on my phone, eye roll, back to dreamland.
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I guess I was privileged enough to have missed watching this game today - based on the score and sentiment here.

Any bright spots in this game from us? Evan Engram's stats suggest he was "good". Anyone else?

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(10-13-2024, 07:37 PM)enigma Wrote: I guess I was privileged enough to have missed watching this game today - based on the score and sentiment here.

Any bright spots in this game from us? Evan Engram's stats suggest he was "good". Anyone else?

You missed nothing.  Jags were outcoached and outclassed, and the team quit.  It was pure embarrassment.
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(10-13-2024, 07:47 PM)navyjagfan Wrote:
(10-13-2024, 07:37 PM)enigma Wrote: I guess I was privileged enough to have missed watching this game today - based on the score and sentiment here.

Any bright spots in this game from us? Evan Engram's stats suggest he was "good". Anyone else?

You missed nothing.  Jags were outreached and outclassed, and the team quit.  It was pure embarrassment.

Of course, the usual Jagwires incompetence.

Whats sad is that we're officially out of playoff contention through 6 weeks. Completely embarrassing.

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(10-13-2024, 03:46 PM)Caldrac Wrote:
(10-13-2024, 03:29 PM)MoJagFan Wrote: We get like 1 playoff appearance every 10 years under Khan, he picks crappy people. He chases fool's gold and just won't break out the broom. The transition times are faulty.

I hope he's learned his lesson this time. You go back to the whole hiring process after Urban Meyer and look at how long it took to start with Doug Pederson and end with Doug Pederson. Nobody wanted to walk into this situation handcuffed to the previous General Manager that had already built up a reputation of selling fool's gold or peddling sterling as silver. 

He has to get it right this time. In about eight weeks he needs to make an important decision for this team's future. Because I can tell you that future clearly does not have Doug nor Trent in it with their respective staff's. They all have to go. 


(10-13-2024, 03:34 PM)Jag149 Wrote: Oh, we had a game today?  did they tell the players to show up? I thought they had a tour of Piccadilly Square scheduled.

They quit. Cisco said the quiet part out loud. Our Superbowl was last week at home against the clots. They're done now until next year. Everybody's already thinking about their off season vacation plans. Hell, some of them are probably already booking cabin trips up into the mountains mid season when we get around week 17. 

[BLEEP] it. Nobody cares.

Was this guy right?

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