My biggest issue with the D so far this year is some of the baffling rotation we have on players and particularly their roles.

Allen dropping into coverage for their first td was odd, and often we have had 4 DTs on the field at once. It happened less yesterday the more we played but throughout the season we’ve rotated so much. For me there is no circumstance where walker shouldn’t be on the field unless he’s completely gassed.

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My biggest issue with the D so far this year is some of the baffling rotation we have on players and particularly their roles.

Allen dropping into coverage for their first td was odd, and often we have had 4 DTs on the field at once. It happened less yesterday the more we played but throughout the season we’ve rotated so much. For me there is no circumstance where walker shouldn’t be on the field unless he’s completely gassed.

I agree.  How can he justify some of these things?  My experience has been an owner will listen to a coach and change players a bit. That not working he then changes coaches.

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

Our D isn't very honorable. /thread

New England took checkdowns all game, usually that is enough to get us beat as we gave up an early TD in the game. The difference is that our offense woke up and put points up and the defense finally adjusted and although it wasn't getting off the field early and often it was just bending and not breaking and getting off the field after the first quarter. The coverage over the middle (Linebackers suck in coverage) and some of the tackling remains suspect. Tyson should have had an INT in his first game back but we are just not taking advantage of our opportunities. Cisco had a nice breakup on a deep pass so we are at least getting closer there, we aren't trailing guys 30 yards down field where we look way out of position.

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My biggest issue with the D so far this year is some of the baffling rotation we have on players and particularly their roles.

Allen dropping into coverage for their first td was odd, and often we have had 4 DTs on the field at once. It happened less yesterday the more we played but throughout the season we’ve rotated so much. For me there is no circumstance where walker shouldn’t be on the field unless he’s completely gassed.

I agree.  How can he justify some of these things?  My experience has been an owner will listen to a coach and change players a bit. That not working he then changes coaches.

I hate the overwrought rotation and I want to see the best four up front together more, but I keep seeing this complaint about the JHA "in coverage" thing.

Just watch the play.

That's not what it was. 

They sent TWO DB's on a blitz, guys. Somebody had to cover the RB leaking into the opposite flat from across the backfield, no? 
It was Allen. 
He failed the assignment, LOL. 

The mistake was getting caught in that moment with an over aggressive blitz.

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So...how about that Taushan Gipson fellow? Still not reinstated?

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So...how about that Taushan Gipson fellow? Still not reinstated?

Yea this is an interesting development to watch. Antonio Johnson is horrible so they need better safety play.

Why would the NFL would allow Gipson to travel to London but not reinstate him?

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So...how about that Taushan Gipson fellow? Still not reinstated?

Yea this is an interesting development to watch. Antonio Johnson is horrible so they need better safety play.

Why would the NFL would allow Gipson to travel to London but not reinstate him?

Not much word leaking out on that situation. I wonder what the setback is? 

They did start and play Savage and Cisco at alternating safety spots this week, so they at least know Johnson is a liability at this point. 

The question is, would Gipson really serve as a meaningful upgrade? I guess it's worth a shot.

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Yea this is an interesting development to watch. Antonio Johnson is horrible so they need better safety play.

Why would the NFL would allow Gipson to travel to London but not reinstate him?

Not much word leaking out on that situation. I wonder what the setback is? 

They did start and play Savage and Cisco at alternating safety spots this week, so they at least know Johnson is a liability at this point. 

The question is, would Gipson really serve as a meaningful upgrade? I guess it's worth a shot.

Anything would be an upgrade to Antonio Johnson. He’s the weakest link in a very weak secondary. We also need to have Ronald Darby off the field at all costs. I’d much rather see brown, jones, or even prince at this point.

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I agree.  How can he justify some of these things?  My experience has been an owner will listen to a coach and change players a bit. That not working he then changes coaches.

I hate the overwrought rotation and I want to see the best four up front together more, but I keep seeing this complaint about the JHA "in coverage" thing.

Just watch the play.

That's not what it was. 

They sent TWO DB's on a blitz, guys. Somebody had to cover the RB leaking into the opposite flat from across the backfield, no? 
It was Allen. 
He failed the assignment, LOL. 

The mistake was getting caught in that moment with an over aggressive blitz.

Just to illustrate this if you haven't rewatched:



The stars show Allen eyeballing the leaking RB - arrows show Johnson and Savage blitzing (normally one of them would pick up the back) 



JHA really should have been able to wrap up Hasty here.

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Biggest issue?

Devon Lloyd.

He''s a pass rushing DE that they are trying to stick in the middle linebacker spot. TEs are going to consistently get open with a larger Devon Lloyd trying to cover them.

Sure, he's good at stopping the run, and I think the Jags run defense is middle of the pack. The problem is relying on Devon Lloyd to cover at the size he is.

The other problem was Antonio Johnson, who thankfully has gotten benched.

Third issue...pass rush. We need to collapse the center of the offensive line when we rush 4 players or more. We don't.

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The Other Jag Forum: Duval Football Fans.

Brandon Scherff is no longer that dude.   Next season I want him gone.

I hate the overwrought rotation and I want to see the best four up front together more, but I keep seeing this complaint about the JHA "in coverage" thing.

Just watch the play.

That's not what it was. 

They sent TWO DB's on a blitz, guys. Somebody had to cover the RB leaking into the opposite flat from across the backfield, no? 
It was Allen. 
He failed the assignment, LOL. 

The mistake was getting caught in that moment with an over aggressive blitz.

Just to illustrate this if you haven't rewatched:



The stars show Allen eyeballing the leaking RB - arrows show Johnson and Savage blitzing (normally one of them would pick up the back) 



JHA really should have been able to wrap up Hasty here.

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Edit... My bad. the pictures were fuzzy, I didn't see what you pointed out.

I just don't know why we keep putting our players in situations that are not ideal for their skillset. This D should be playing much better. We have injuries that have hurt us. But the way Neilsen is using our players does not help.

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Just to illustrate this if you haven't rewatched:



The stars show Allen eyeballing the leaking RB - arrows show Johnson and Savage blitzing (normally one of them would pick up the back) 



JHA really should have been able to wrap up Hasty here.

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Edit...  My bad.  the pictures were fuzzy, I didn't see what you pointed out.

I just don't know why we keep putting our players in situations that are not ideal for their skillset.  This D should be playing much better.  We have injuries that have hurt us.  But the way Neilsen is using our players does not help.

LOL 

They DON'T keep putting Hines-Allen in this situation. That's the point. 

Nielsen has probably sent 2 DBs like that 8 times out of 480 defensive snaps this year. 

But if 41 is ever asked to do something besides kill the QB, people lose their minds without analyzing the play. 

The pats had the right play dialed up against a blitz. 
It happens, man. Not indicative of some overarching scheme failure. There's plenty of legitimate stuff to complain about. No need to be confused about this little outlier.

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Edit...  My bad.  the pictures were fuzzy, I didn't see what you pointed out.

I just don't know why we keep putting our players in situations that are not ideal for their skillset.  This D should be playing much better.  We have injuries that have hurt us.  But the way Neilsen is using our players does not help.

LOL 

They DON'T keep putting Hines-Allen in this situation. That's the point. 

Nielsen has probably sent 2 DBs like that 8 times out of 480 defensive snaps this year. 

But if 41 is ever asked to do something besides kill the QB, people lose their minds without analyzing the play. 

The pats had the right play dialed up against a blitz. 
It happens, man. Not indicative of some overarching scheme failure. There's plenty of legitimate stuff to complain about. No need to be confused about this little outlier.

I don't want to see JHA do much more than rush the passer or keep contain, but I don't mind that particular defensive call on occasion, especially with a rookie QB on the other side that should be easier to confuse.  The fail was all on JHA on that play.  He appeared to believe that he was just going to escort Hasty out of bounds.  It was either a catastrophic lapse in effort, concentration or both.

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Walker said he screwed up that play. He was also supposed to drop into coverage.

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Walker said he screwed up that play. He was also supposed to drop into coverage.

Yea, next time they should use Hamilton.

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

Walker said he screwed up that play. He was also supposed to drop into coverage.

Yea, next time they should use Hamilton.

Fortner pls

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Walker said he screwed up that play. He was also supposed to drop into coverage.

Good man to take the hit for his teammate.

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Yea, next time they should use Hamilton.

Fortner pls

...you expect him to tackle? Dude let guys by so fast he couldn't even get flagged for a hold.

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https://twitter.com/_John_Shipley/status...4322119044

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Something I heard Tony Boselli talking about on the radio that I hadn’t considered. The defense spends so much time on the field that the offense gets cold and out of sync.

After that abysmal 1st quarter against the Patriots, the D began making stops and we started scoring. Hmmm…

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Something I heard Tony Boselli talking about on the radio that I hadn’t considered. The defense spends so much time on the field that the offense gets cold and out of sync.

After that abysmal 1st quarter against the Patriots, the D began making stops and we started scoring. Hmmm…

Yeah i do agree, getting into a rhythm on offence is a must if you are to be competitive

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