We still do not know if the Jags got good value from either player.

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Wow.

See an optometrist, I guess? 

he's number 41 BTW

41 has been the guy not making many plays. The fact he has a higher pff grade than Walker this year is laughable.

So you think Josh Hines-Allen should've been let go in free agency? Or he should've played on the tag this year? Because those are the two options for having him on the roster today if he didn't sign when he did. The only option that actually made any sense would've been to sign him EARLIER so they could've tagged Ridley instead. Your entire premise in stirring up this discussion is just wrong. Same for Robinson, he was tagged TWICE before he signed a two year deal. They waited longer to sign him than just about any other player in, not just franchise history, but NFL history entirely. Very few players get tagged twice, but we did that with our incredibly average left tackle.

So yeah, this is just an Epic Thread Fail on all counts.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

The problem is the pay grade. I agree. OG is right in this case. Lawrence is playing "great" and JHA is also playing "great".

Okay. Sure. Based on a few third party metrics that offer up participation ribbons and trophies to put lipstick on a pig.

Lawrence is not worthy of his current contract and standing amongst his peers. Neither is JHA.

Those two sacks TJ Watt had last night to close the game out with the Giants? That's what JHA is being paid for. He's expected to beat double teams guys. He's expected to excel more amongst his peers.

Lawrence is supposed to protect the football better in critical moments. Two costly turnovers inside your own endzone are the polar opposite of that. He's expected to beat pressure. He's expected to excel more amongst his peers.

It's common sense really. You don't need stats for geeks brought to you by nerds to make you feel warm and fuzzy about your favorite players. Nobody cares if you made 3rd base. That doesn't win games guys. That doesn't seal the deal.

This is exactly how a lot of you guys sound around here and it's hilarious.

https://youtu.be/a8U7n1XG9fk?si=jzQaXqWNx3yJgcHr

"I wAs GeTtInG thErE".



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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Pay your guys.  Even if you're wrong you gotta try to show you will pay your players.  This feels like a fluke year at this point.  Trevor has been balling out the past three weeks.

Trevor's contract will look like a discount in 2 years.  Signing him early and at less than Dak Prescott's contract was smart.  Note:  I'm not defending Baalke.  But that was a good signing.  I also think that the JHA signing was fine.  He's not getting many sacks, but he's still a big part of what's going good with our defense.  Of course, there's not much that's good.  But it's not JHA that's the problem.  With a better defensive scheme and better coaching and player usage, JHA and Walker are 2 great ends.  It's the inside linemen that are not being used right/not playing well that's the problem with this D line.

This idea that we are paying players too early is kinda not the problem.

The problem is the pay grade. I agree. OG is right in this case. Lawrence is playing "great" and JHA is also playing "great".

Okay. Sure. Based on a few third party metrics that offer up participation ribbons and trophies to put lipstick on a pig.

Lawrence is not worthy of his current contract and standing amongst his peers. Neither is JHA.

Those two sacks TJ Watt had last night to close the game out with the Giants? That's what JHA is being paid for. He's expected to beat double teams guys. He's expected to excel more amongst his peers.

Lawrence is supposed to protect the football better in critical moments. Two costly turnovers inside your own endzone are the polar opposite of that. He's expected to beat pressure. He's expected to excel more amongst his peers.

It's common sense really. You don't need stats for geeks brought to you by nerds to make you feel warm and fuzzy about your favorite players. Nobody cares if you made 3rd base. That doesn't win games guys. That doesn't seal the deal.

This is exactly how a lot of you guys sound around here and it's hilarious.

https://youtu.be/a8U7n1XG9fk?si=jzQaXqWNx3yJgcHr

"I wAs GeTtInG thErE".



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TLaw has had 5 turnovers in 8 games.  Lol.  Just asking, but is PMahomes also not worthy of his current contract since he's throwing picks inside his own 10 during critical moments of the game?

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Trevor's contract will look like a discount in 2 years.  Signing him early and at less than Dak Prescott's contract was smart.  Note:  I'm not defending Baalke.  But that was a good signing.  I also think that the JHA signing was fine.  He's not getting many sacks, but he's still a big part of what's going good with our defense.  Of course, there's not much that's good.  But it's not JHA that's the problem.  With a better defensive scheme and better coaching and player usage, JHA and Walker are 2 great ends.  It's the inside linemen that are not being used right/not playing well that's the problem with this D line.

This idea that we are paying players too early is kinda not the problem.

The problem is the pay grade. I agree. OG is right in this case. Lawrence is playing "great" and JHA is also playing "great".

Okay. Sure. Based on a few third party metrics that offer up participation ribbons and trophies to put lipstick on a pig.

Lawrence is not worthy of his current contract and standing amongst his peers. Neither is JHA.

Those two sacks TJ Watt had last night to close the game out with the Giants? That's what JHA is being paid for. He's expected to beat double teams guys. He's expected to excel more amongst his peers.

Lawrence is supposed to protect the football better in critical moments. Two costly turnovers inside your own endzone are the polar opposite of that. He's expected to beat pressure. He's expected to excel more amongst his peers.

It's common sense really. You don't need stats for geeks brought to you by nerds to make you feel warm and fuzzy about your favorite players. Nobody cares if you made 3rd base. That doesn't win games guys. That doesn't seal the deal.

This is exactly how a lot of you guys sound around here and it's hilarious.

https://youtu.be/a8U7n1XG9fk?si=jzQaXqWNx3yJgcHr

"I wAs GeTtInG thErE".



Sent from my SM-S906U using Tapatalk

TLaw has had 5 turnovers in 8 games.  Lol.  Just asking, but is PMahomes also not worthy of his current contract since he's throwing picks inside his own 10 during critical moments of the game?

He's played like [BLEEP] as well. His contract is based on actual accomplishments. What has our guy accomplished?

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

TLaw has had 5 turnovers in 8 games.  Lol.  Just asking, but is PMahomes also not worthy of his current contract since he's throwing picks inside his own 10 during critical moments of the game?

He's played like [BLEEP] as well. His contract is based on actual accomplishments. What has our guy accomplished?

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What's the proper compensation for a QB that is on pace to finish the year with 8.5 picks and 2.1 fumbles?

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Maybe it’s better that the board breaks down every week so we don’t have to have the TLaw discourse every day……

Hey Trevor. I know you were the first QB to crack 300 on the Packers and you did a lot of that without your top 2 WRs and you led the team back to tie the game only to see the worst defense in the league blow it once again but hey…. You suck!

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He's played like [BLEEP] as well. His contract is based on actual accomplishments. What has our guy accomplished?

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What's the proper compensation for a QB that is on pace to finish the year with 8.5 picks and 2.1 fumbles?

You and I both know damn well he's going to eclipse that pace here shortly. Especially with murderers row staring at him over the next four games and the rest of the morale and ship sinking around him. 

Wishful thinking to believe otherwise. Also, what's he on pace for TD wise? If he's ratioing himself into oblivion with 1:1 instead of a 2:1 or 3:1 in favor of TD's over turnovers? We're right back to the very same conversation we've had with this kid since year one, year two and year three.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

What's the proper compensation for a QB that is on pace to finish the year with 8.5 picks and 2.1 fumbles?

You and I both know damn well he's going to eclipse that pace here shortly. Especially with murderers row staring at him over the next four games and the rest of the morale and ship sinking around him. 

Wishful thinking to believe otherwise. Also, what's he on pace for TD wise? If he's ratioing himself into oblivion with 1:1 instead of a 2:1 or 3:1 in favor of TD's over turnovers? We're right back to the very same conversation we've had with this kid since year one, year two and year three.

Lol, I guess you haven't looked at the stat line lately. Yeah, his "ratio" is just fine, thanks.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Maybe it’s better that the board breaks down every week so we don’t have to have the TLaw discourse every day……

Hey Trevor. I know you were the first QB to crack 300 on the Packers and you did a lot of that without your top 2 WRs and you led the team back to tie the game only to see the worst defense in the league blow it once again but hey…. You suck!

Hey Trevor. Thanks for digging us out of the hell hole you helped create in the 1st half by not getting more than 15 yards in one quarter of play, throwing an INT inside our own 20 after our defense finally got you one and then also fumbling the ball at the 5 yard line later on to ultimately spot the [BLEEP] team 14 points. 

Lawrence's career in a nutshell. Can deny, deny and deny it all you want. You can deflect it and compare him to guys that are within the same pay grade or higher that have actual accomplishments to support said pay grade, but, this has been the same damn theme, off and on, since day one with him. 

Spare me the "But...but..but..muh metrics and PfFfFfF's". Sick of it. If it looks like [BLEEP] and smells like [BLEEP]? It's probably [BLEEP]. In this case. It's a piece of [BLEEP] in a nice paper bag that's been lit on fire at this point. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QtBlxEdJZo

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You and I both know damn well he's going to eclipse that pace here shortly. Especially with murderers row staring at him over the next four games and the rest of the morale and ship sinking around him. 

Wishful thinking to believe otherwise. Also, what's he on pace for TD wise? If he's ratioing himself into oblivion with 1:1 instead of a 2:1 or 3:1 in favor of TD's over turnovers? We're right back to the very same conversation we've had with this kid since year one, year two and year three.

Lol, I guess you haven't looked at the stat line lately. Yeah, his "ratio" is just fine, thanks.

Read the very first sentence. I guarantee you that's fixing to change over the course of these next four games. Captain Save A Ho is fixing to put this team on his back and turn a bad situation into a nightmare. He's good for it.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Maybe it’s better that the board breaks down every week so we don’t have to have the TLaw discourse every day……

Hey Trevor. I know you were the first QB to crack 300 on the Packers and you did a lot of that without your top 2 WRs and you led the team back to tie the game only to see the worst defense in the league blow it once again but hey…. You suck!

Hey Trevor. Thanks for digging us out of the hell hole you helped create in the 1st half by not getting more than 15 yards in one quarter of play, throwing an INT inside our own 20 after our defense finally got you one and then also fumbling the ball at the 5 yard line later on to ultimately spot the [BLEEP] team 14 points. 

Lawrence's career in a nutshell. Can deny, deny and deny it all you want. You can deflect it and compare him to guys that are within the same pay grade or higher that have actual accomplishments to support said pay grade, but, this has been the same damn theme, off and on, since day one with him. 

Spare me the "But...but..but..muh metrics and PfFfFfF's". Sick of it. If it looks like [BLEEP] and smells like [BLEEP]? It's probably [BLEEP]. In this case. It's a piece of [BLEEP] in a nice paper bag that's been lit on fire at this point. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QtBlxEdJZo

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Lol, I guess you haven't looked at the stat line lately. Yeah, his "ratio" is just fine, thanks.

Read the very first sentence. I guarantee you that's fixing to change over the course of these next four games. Captain Save A Ho is fixing to put this team on his back and turn a bad situation into a nightmare. He's good for it.

Man, you're just a dozen misspelled words away from becoming Snowie. You should really take a break before you hurt yourself.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Maybe it’s better that the board breaks down every week so we don’t have to have the TLaw discourse every day……

Hey Trevor. I know you were the first QB to crack 300 on the Packers and you did a lot of that without your top 2 WRs and you led the team back to tie the game only to see the worst defense in the league blow it once again but hey…. You suck!

Sometimes I think the board is alive and reflects the energy of the posters. When they are broken it likewise breaks down. And man, these guys are BROKEN.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Hey Trevor. Thanks for digging us out of the hell hole you helped create in the 1st half by not getting more than 15 yards in one quarter of play, throwing an INT inside our own 20 after our defense finally got you one and then also fumbling the ball at the 5 yard line later on to ultimately spot the [BLEEP] team 14 points. 

Lawrence's career in a nutshell. Can deny, deny and deny it all you want. You can deflect it and compare him to guys that are within the same pay grade or higher that have actual accomplishments to support said pay grade, but, this has been the same damn theme, off and on, since day one with him. 

Spare me the "But...but..but..muh metrics and PfFfFfF's". Sick of it. If it looks like [BLEEP] and smells like [BLEEP]? It's probably [BLEEP]. In this case. It's a piece of [BLEEP] in a nice paper bag that's been lit on fire at this point. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QtBlxEdJZo

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Read the very first sentence. I guarantee you that's fixing to change over the course of these next four games. Captain Save A Ho is fixing to put this team on his back and turn a bad situation into a nightmare. He's good for it.

Man, you're just a dozen misspelled words away from becoming Snowie. You should really take a break before you hurt yourself.

Typical response from a man with no counter punch or argument because you can't defend it nor deny that I am right in certain regards. 

Happy Tu-tu-Tuesday! 

LOL. 

It is what it is. We're about eight weeks away from this [BLEEP] show of a season finally being over with. There's no way Khan enters 2025 with Pederson and Baalke in that building. That's the only hope I have for moving forward. Just have to hope like hell he hires the right people for the job to get the most out of Lawrence while he's still young.

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Maybe it’s better that the board breaks down every week so we don’t have to have the TLaw discourse every day……

Hey Trevor. I know you were the first QB to crack 300 on the Packers and you did a lot of that without your top 2 WRs and you led the team back to tie the game only to see the worst defense in the league blow it once again but hey…. You suck!

Sometimes I think the board is alive and reflects the energy of the posters. When they are broken it likewise breaks down. And man, these guys are BROKEN.

LOL. Sure, sure. 

We'll see the rest of you in four weeks when the team falls to 2 - 10. Cheers.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Man, you're just a dozen misspelled words away from becoming Snowie. You should really take a break before you hurt yourself.

Typical response from a man with no counter punch or argument because you can't defend it nor deny that I am right in certain regards. 

Happy Tu-tu-Tuesday! 

LOL. 

It is what it is. We're about eight weeks away from this [BLEEP] show of a season finally being over with. There's no way Khan enters 2025 with Pederson and Baalke in that building. That's the only hope I have for moving forward. Just have to hope like hell he hires the right people for the job to get the most out of Lawrence while he's still young.

There's a dozen threads about why you're off base, whether it's the play, the player, or the contract. I don't need to rehash it all again, you'll just hand wave it away with "It doesn't matter how he played yesterday, I'm [BLEEP] about next WEEK!!!!!!"

Sadly I think you're mistaken, Baalke is dug in like the tick he is.

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Man, you're just a dozen misspelled words away from becoming Snowie. You should really take a break before you hurt yourself.

Typical response from a man with no counter punch or argument because you can't defend it nor deny that I am right in certain regards. 

Happy Tu-tu-Tuesday! 

LOL. 

It is what it is. We're about eight weeks away from this [BLEEP] show of a season finally being over with. There's no way Khan enters 2025 with Pederson and Baalke in that building. That's the only hope I have for moving forward. Just have to hope like hell he hires the right people for the job to get the most out of Lawrence while he's still young.

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Sometimes I think the board is alive and reflects the energy of the posters. When they are broken it likewise breaks down. And man, these guys are BROKEN.

LOL. Sure, sure. 

We'll see the rest of you in four weeks when the team falls to 2 - 10. Cheers.

Enjoy your time off!

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Typical response from a man with no counter punch or argument because you can't defend it nor deny that I am right in certain regards. 

Happy Tu-tu-Tuesday! 

LOL. 

It is what it is. We're about eight weeks away from this [BLEEP] show of a season finally being over with. There's no way Khan enters 2025 with Pederson and Baalke in that building. That's the only hope I have for moving forward. Just have to hope like hell he hires the right people for the job to get the most out of Lawrence while he's still young.

There's a dozen threads about why you're off base, whether it's the play, the player, or the contract. I don't need to rehash it all again, you'll just hand wave it away with "It doesn't matter how he played yesterday, I'm [BLEEP] about next WEEK!!!!!!"

Sadly I think you're mistaken, Baalke is dug in like the tick he is.

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Typical response from a man with no counter punch or argument because you can't defend it nor deny that I am right in certain regards. 

Happy Tu-tu-Tuesday! 

LOL. 

It is what it is. We're about eight weeks away from this [BLEEP] show of a season finally being over with. There's no way Khan enters 2025 with Pederson and Baalke in that building. That's the only hope I have for moving forward. Just have to hope like hell he hires the right people for the job to get the most out of Lawrence while he's still young.

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LOL. Sure, sure. 

We'll see the rest of you in four weeks when the team falls to 2 - 10. Cheers.

Enjoy your time off!

The Baalke situation has been debated into the dirt. We're all in unison here with that belief. In lockstep. He should have been out the door years ago. 

I don't think there's anybody on here that defends him at all. We'll see what happens in a few weeks. He should really be the first person fired when the changes start coming. 

Honest question though, how would you feel if Baalke ended up staying yet again and it's Pederson that gets the blame and he's let go?

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

There's a dozen threads about why you're off base, whether it's the play, the player, or the contract. I don't need to rehash it all again, you'll just hand wave it away with "It doesn't matter how he played yesterday, I'm [BLEEP] about next WEEK!!!!!!"

Sadly I think you're mistaken, Baalke is dug in like the tick he is.

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Enjoy your time off!

The Baalke situation has been debated into the dirt. We're all in unison here with that belief. In lockstep. He should have been out the door years ago. 

I don't think there's anybody on here that defends him at all. We'll see what happens in a few weeks. He should really be the first person fired when the changes start coming. 

Honest question though, how would you feel if Baalke ended up staying yet again and it's Pederson that gets the blame and he's let go?

I'm mentally preparing for exactly that situation because I believe it's inevitable at this point.

And I don't know if this board will survive another 3 years of what we've gone through this year.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

No mention of Campbell in this entire thread? If there's any excessive paycheck to complain about, you'd think that'd be where we would start.

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Maybe it’s better that the board breaks down every week so we don’t have to have the TLaw discourse every day……

Hey Trevor. I know you were the first QB to crack 300 on the Packers and you did a lot of that without your top 2 WRs and you led the team back to tie the game only to see the worst defense in the league blow it once again but hey…. You suck!

Hey Trevor. Thanks for digging us out of the hell hole you helped create in the 1st half by not getting more than 15 yards in one quarter of play, throwing an INT inside our own 20 after our defense finally got you one and then also fumbling the ball at the 5 yard line later on to ultimately spot the [BLEEP] team 14 points. 

Lawrence's career in a nutshell. Can deny, deny and deny it all you want. You can deflect it and compare him to guys that are within the same pay grade or higher that have actual accomplishments to support said pay grade, but, this has been the same damn theme, off and on, since day one with him. 

Spare me the "But...but..but..muh metrics and PfFfFfF's". Sick of it. If it looks like [BLEEP] and smells like [BLEEP]? It's probably [BLEEP]. In this case. It's a piece of [BLEEP] in a nice paper bag that's been lit on fire at this point. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QtBlxEdJZo

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Lol, I guess you haven't looked at the stat line lately. Yeah, his "ratio" is just fine, thanks.

Read the very first sentence. I guarantee you that's fixing to change over the course of these next four games. Captain Save A Ho is fixing to put this team on his back and turn a bad situation into a nightmare. He's good for it.

Why is it OK for Mahomes to throw picks inside his own 10 yard line but it's catastrophic for TLaw to throw one on his own side of the field?  You keep tap dancing  around this.   Why is TLaw held to a much higher standard?

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Maybe it’s better that the board breaks down every week so we don’t have to have the TLaw discourse every day……

Hey Trevor. I know you were the first QB to crack 300 on the Packers and you did a lot of that without your top 2 WRs and you led the team back to tie the game only to see the worst defense in the league blow it once again but hey…. You suck!

Hey Trevor. Thanks for digging us out of the hell hole you helped create in the 1st half by not getting more than 15 yards in one quarter of play, throwing an INT inside our own 20 after our defense finally got you one and then also fumbling the ball at the 5 yard line later on to ultimately spot the [BLEEP] team 14 points. 

Lawrence's career in a nutshell. Can deny, deny and deny it all you want. You can deflect it and compare him to guys that are within the same pay grade or higher that have actual accomplishments to support said pay grade, but, this has been the same damn theme, off and on, since day one with him. 

Spare me the "But...but..but..muh metrics and PfFfFfF's". Sick of it. If it looks like [BLEEP] and smells like [BLEEP]? It's probably [BLEEP]. In this case. It's a piece of [BLEEP] in a nice paper bag that's been lit on fire at this point. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QtBlxEdJZo

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Lol, I guess you haven't looked at the stat line lately. Yeah, his "ratio" is just fine, thanks.

Read the very first sentence. I guarantee you that's fixing to change over the course of these next four games. Captain Save A Ho is fixing to put this team on his back and turn a bad situation into a nightmare. He's good for it.

You compared Trevor to Jason Campbell bud. Take a break.

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Hey Trevor. Thanks for digging us out of the hell hole you helped create in the 1st half by not getting more than 15 yards in one quarter of play, throwing an INT inside our own 20 after our defense finally got you one and then also fumbling the ball at the 5 yard line later on to ultimately spot the [BLEEP] team 14 points. 

Lawrence's career in a nutshell. Can deny, deny and deny it all you want. You can deflect it and compare him to guys that are within the same pay grade or higher that have actual accomplishments to support said pay grade, but, this has been the same damn theme, off and on, since day one with him. 

Spare me the "But...but..but..muh metrics and PfFfFfF's". Sick of it. If it looks like [BLEEP] and smells like [BLEEP]? It's probably [BLEEP]. In this case. It's a piece of [BLEEP] in a nice paper bag that's been lit on fire at this point. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QtBlxEdJZo

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Read the very first sentence. I guarantee you that's fixing to change over the course of these next four games. Captain Save A Ho is fixing to put this team on his back and turn a bad situation into a nightmare. He's good for it.

Why is it OK for Mahomes to throw picks inside his own 10 yard line but it's catastrophic for TLaw to throw one on his own side of the field?  You keep tap dancing  around this.   Why is TLaw held to a much higher standard?

This is easy. 

1. Mahomes has the hardware, moments and pedigree to exempt from said mistakes from time to time. Mahomes has shown the ability to make up for his mistakes. His career speaks for itself. Despite all of his poor play this year and his numbers being down? They're still undefeated and he's doing just enough at the right times in their games to ensure they win. 

2. Lawrence does not have any of the above, in addition to that, he knows our defense is trash. He needs to be that much more aware and careful while handling the football that deep in his own territory. We don't have Chris Jones on our defense. We don't have Steve Spaggs as our Defensive Coordinator neither. 

Any other lame duck questions you want to throw my way so I can waltz over it or what?

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Why is it OK for Mahomes to throw picks inside his own 10 yard line but it's catastrophic for TLaw to throw one on his own side of the field?  You keep tap dancing  around this.   Why is TLaw held to a much higher standard?

This is easy. 

1. Mahomes has the hardware, moments and pedigree to exempt from said mistakes from time to time. Mahomes has shown the ability to make up for his mistakes. His career speaks for itself. Despite all of his poor play this year and his numbers being down? They're still undefeated and he's doing just enough at the right times in their games to ensure they win. 

2. Lawrence does not have any of the above, in addition to that, he knows our defense is trash. He needs to be that much more aware and careful while handling the football that deep in his own territory. We don't have Chris Jones on our defense. We don't have Steve Spaggs as our Defensive Coordinator neither. 

Any other lame duck questions you want to throw my way so I can waltz over it or what?

Lol, and you completely ignore that all of his accomplishments are BECAUSE of the franchise he's playing for. Yes, he's great, but that fact that he can play bad and the team be undefeated should show you how much better the rest of that team is than what's here. If Mahomes were here the last 3 years he'd be just another TexTech stiff who couldn't make it in the NFL.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato