Well a white person wouldn't be biracial, but yes. No one calls it "white identity" but any European cultural expression could qualify.  Remember that there are usually a handful of white folks at your HBCUs and such.  Nothing is homogeneous.
If you find this conversation awkward, maybe your candidate shouldn't have started it.

I don’t find the conversation awkward at all. The point I’m making is claiming a racial identity for advantage is racist in itself. Could a white person say they are proud of their European heritage and not be pilloried by the same people who claim racial identity is important? 

Take Obama. How much was his white heritage celebrated? It wasn’t. The racial identity people, including Obama, only focused on his African father who abandoned him as a child. His white mother who raised him and inculcated into him his liberal values was largely ignored. That is true racism.

Everyone claims a racial identity.  You say that she claimed it "as an advantage." Here you claim to know her heart.  She is what she is.  She's supposed to tell us what she is. 

To your second point, very little was said about Obama's father. The book written about him makes it clear that his father was not very influential and some of his influence was bad.

Obama simply identified as black once he came to the mainland.  His choice.  He's actually a third culture kid who grew up in Indonesia and Hawaii, but he decided to emphasize the black after that.  No one questioned him about what his racial identity really was at the time, why he didn't identify equally as white, because we were a nicer country back then, with nicer candidates.  We used to care about graces and virtues.  Wasn't long ago.  But it's far away now.  You know this.  You know Trump's meanness and classlessness is new, but you embrace it and defend it.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Get your [BLEEP] and get the [BLEEP] out!!!

lololololololol

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So you are Albanian then?

I am from Kosovo. So yes Albanian Kosovar. But this isn't about who and what I am, I just brought it up because he thought that I was just a geographically challenged US born citizen.

Let's get back to the topic at hand. Do you agree or disagree with the main point I made? If so, would you like to dispute it?

Well then i must apologize. Having come from a country that was ruled by fascists 80+ years ago (and then later communists), you obviously have a personal perspective on the horrors of fascism. Your country has a beautiful coastline btw, but i cant say much for the rest of it. And your Albanian ancestors murdered my papoo (grandfather) in the Greek Italian war in 1940 and STILL wont release his remains to my family in Kalamata, the city of my birth. So take your murdering native fascist country and shove it up your [BLEEP]. The democracy that we Greeks pioneered was on full and glorious display last night.

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"Remember Red, Hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."  - Andy Dufresne, The Shawshank Redemption

I am from Kosovo. So yes Albanian Kosovar. But this isn't about who and what I am, I just brought it up because he thought that I was just a geographically challenged US born citizen.

Let's get back to the topic at hand. Do you agree or disagree with the main point I made? If so, would you like to dispute it?

Well then i must apologize.  Having come from a country that was ruled by fascists 80+ years ago (and then later communists), you obviously  have a personal perspective on the horrors of fascism.  Your country has a beautiful coastline btw, but i cant say much for the rest of it.  And your Albanian ancestors murdered my papoo (grandfather) in the Greek Italian war in 1940 and STILL wont release his remains to my family in Kalamata, the city of my birth. So take your murdering native fascist country and shove it up your [BLEEP]. The democracy that we Greeks pioneered was on full and glorious display last night.

Kosovo is to Albania as the USA is to Canada.  Adjacent, same language, different history.  Get a clue before you start shoving things up other people's [BLEEP].

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Well then i must apologize.  Having come from a country that was ruled by fascists 80+ years ago (and then later communists), you obviously  have a personal perspective on the horrors of fascism.  Your country has a beautiful coastline btw, but i cant say much for the rest of it.  And your Albanian ancestors murdered my papoo (grandfather) in the Greek Italian war in 1940 and STILL wont release his remains to my family in Kalamata, the city of my birth. So take your murdering native fascist country and shove it up your [BLEEP]. The democracy that we Greeks pioneered was on full and glorious display last night.

Kosovo is to Albania as the USA is to Canada.  Adjacent, same language, different history.  Get a clue before you start shoving things up other people's [BLEEP].

Hes part albanian. Close enough.

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"Remember Red, Hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."  - Andy Dufresne, The Shawshank Redemption

Well then i must apologize.  Having come from a country that was ruled by fascists 80+ years ago (and then later communists), you obviously  have a personal perspective on the horrors of fascism.  Your country has a beautiful coastline btw, but i cant say much for the rest of it.  And your Albanian ancestors murdered my papoo (grandfather) in the Greek Italian war in 1940 and STILL wont release his remains to my family in Kalamata, the city of my birth. So take your murdering native fascist country and shove it up your [BLEEP]. The democracy that we Greeks pioneered was on full and glorious display last night.

Kosovo is to Albania as the USA is to Canada.  Adjacent, same language, different history.  Get a clue before you start shoving things up other people's [BLEEP].

I bet that turned you on..

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Kosovo is to Albania as the USA is to Canada.  Adjacent, same language, different history.  Get a clue before you start shoving things up other people's [BLEEP].

I bet that turned you on..

I know it turned you on, and nothing turns me on more than turning you on!

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

I bet that turned you on..

I know it turned you on, and nothing turns me on more than turning you on!

You went the extra step.. Never go the extra step or you're inviting people into your closet, and we don't wanna see it.

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I know it turned you on, and nothing turns me on more than turning you on!

You went the extra step.. Never go the extra step or you're inviting people into your closet, and we don't wanna see it.

I will always go further than any of you on this.  Don't start with me.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

You went the extra step.. Never go the extra step or you're inviting people into your closet, and we don't wanna see it.

I will always go further than any of you on this.  Don't start with me.

I bet that sounded better in your own head lolololololol

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Things getting decidedly awkward in here now…

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What in the Wide Wide World of Sports is agoin' on here???

I don’t find the conversation awkward at all. The point I’m making is claiming a racial identity for advantage is racist in itself. Could a white person say they are proud of their European heritage and not be pilloried by the same people who claim racial identity is important? 

Take Obama. How much was his white heritage celebrated? It wasn’t. The racial identity people, including Obama, only focused on his African father who abandoned him as a child. His white mother who raised him and inculcated into him his liberal values was largely ignored. That is true racism.

Everyone claims a racial identity.  You say that she claimed it "as an advantage." Here you claim to know her heart.  She is what she is.  She's supposed to tell us what she is. 

To your second point, very little was said about Obama's father. The book written about him makes it clear that his father was not very influential and some of his influence was bad.

Obama simply identified as black once he came to the mainland.  His choice.  He's actually a third culture kid who grew up in Indonesia and Hawaii, but he decided to emphasize the black after that.  No one questioned him about what his racial identity really was at the time, why he didn't identify equally as white, because we were a nicer country back then, with nicer candidates.  We used to care about graces and virtues.  Wasn't long ago.  But it's far away now.  You know this.  You know Trump's meanness and classlessness is new, but you embrace it and defend it.

That's not really the reason. It wasn't questioned because identity politics weren't a thing and it didn't become one until he became POTUS. 

Also, black folks in predominantly black countries don't identify themselves by their race the way they do in more diverse countries. Race isn't really a thing the way it is here. This is true of people of color in their countries. I personally know folks who live in Africa, India and the Philippines and they all say this. In their countries it's a class or social/economic issue, not a racial issue. Think of India's caste system. It's not a matter of race because they're all Indian, it's about social and economic status. 

We have a social and economic system is here but no one wants to talk about it because it doesn't serve a purpose. Because of this country's racial history it's just easier to milk that cow. If we start talking about clas warfare it makes the folks in charge uncomfortable because there are more of us than there are of them and that could cause problems for them if people actually got fired up about it.

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Things getting decidedly awkward in here now…

Not even gonna lie..

I've been laughing in this thread for like an hour straight lololol

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Things getting decidedly awkward in here now…

So what's your opinion on Greeks, Albanians, and fascism? 

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Love Greek food..

The wife makes an excellent Baklava around the holidays

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Things getting decidedly awkward in here now…

Not even gonna lie..

I've been laughing in this thread for like an hour straight lololol

Stop bogarting the pipe!

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

I'm still wondering if Mayorkas will clear the wall into Mexico.. We need to find out, Mythbusters style..

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SCOTUS fixin to get some new younger Republican blood soon?

Now's the time to do it.. House, Senate & Presidency.

They can't stop it..

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Well then i must apologize.  Having come from a country that was ruled by fascists 80+ years ago (and then later communists), you obviously  have a personal perspective on the horrors of fascism.  Your country has a beautiful coastline btw, but i cant say much for the rest of it.  And your Albanian ancestors murdered my papoo (grandfather) in the Greek Italian war in 1940 and STILL wont release his remains to my family in Kalamata, the city of my birth. So take your murdering native fascist country and shove it up your [BLEEP]. The democracy that we Greeks pioneered was on full and glorious display last night.

Kosovo is to Albania as the USA is to Canada.  Adjacent, same language, different history.  Get a clue before you start shoving things up other people's [BLEEP].

If you knew much about Canada, or had ever been in the province of Quebec, you would know that not even all of the country speaks the same language.

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When you get into the endzone, act like you've been there before.

Get your popcorn ready.

Van Jones is highly entertaining


https://youtu.be/ekcKd8wr2-U?si=ywQE1lyZPvyRn_8b

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