I'm not sure firing Nielsen is a good idea. They were quite good last week and this week was great.

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I'm not sure firing Nielsen is a good idea. They were quite good last week and this week was great.

Doesn’t matter at this point. We will get smoked next week on d and this thread will be live with fire him.. the following week the will be average to below average after the bye against houston…. Then they will be ok the rest of the way because we play no one, well
Maybe Flacco smokes us again at home but outside of that they will be ok…

Either way we will lose out if Trevor doesn’t come back and to be honest I hope he doesn’t… might as well shoot for the highest possible pick so we have options to take best player or trade down for our next staff.

This staff is cooked and that includes Nielsen

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Team plays hard, they just aren't good enough.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Team plays hard, they just aren't good enough.

Could start with good coaching and good playcalling to get the best out of your players.  We don't have that here. Head coaching is mean

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Team plays hard, they just aren't good enough.

Could start with good coaching and good playcalling to get the best out of your players.  We don't have that here.  Head coaching is mean

Or.. and just follow me here...we could bring in players who fit the desired scheme.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

If rhey keep thay up for remainder games

He stays

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Could start with good coaching and good playcalling to get the best out of your players.  We don't have that here.  Head coaching is mean

Or.. and just follow me here...we could bring in players who fit the desired scheme.

Hopefully, that would be the smart thing to do.  With that said, the good and great coaches create their schemes to fit the players. Put the players in the best position to succeed.

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Or.. and just follow me here...we could bring in players who fit the desired scheme.

Hopefully, that would be the smart thing to do.  With that said, the good and great coaches create their schemes to fit the players. Put the players in the best position to succeed.

Nonsense, they get rid of guys who don't fit and bring in guys who do.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Hopefully, that would be the smart thing to do.  With that said, the good and great coaches create their schemes to fit the players. Put the players in the best position to succeed.

Nonsense, they get rid of guys who don't fit and bring in guys who do.

Whatever players the coach has to work with is it.  He needs to create a scheme that fits to what the players do best.  This staff isnt capable of that.  We dont scheme guys open and get outcoached weekly. On D we play guys out of position as well.

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He's started using more zone the last couple weeks and it definitely helped. The radio coverage I was listening to said we played 2 deep safeties on 21 of 22 Vikings pass attempts 1st half. 

I give him credit for making adjustments and trying to find a way to improve the D, I do wonder why it tool so long though.

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Nonsense, they get rid of guys who don't fit and bring in guys who do.

Whatever players the coach has to work with is it.  He needs to create a scheme that fits to what the players do best.  This staff isnt capable of that.  We dont scheme guys open and get outcoached weekly.  On D we play guys out of position as well.

Exactly, and when the guy who picks them is terrible at his job you get a D+ level roster that your coach makes C- and you guys blame the coach. It's why this [BLEEP] franchise never gets any better.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Whatever players the coach has to work with is it.  He needs to create a scheme that fits to what the players do best.  This staff isnt capable of that.  We dont scheme guys open and get outcoached weekly.  On D we play guys out of position as well.

Exactly, and when the guy who picks them is terrible at his job you get a D+ level roster that your coach makes C- and you guys blame the coach. It's why this [BLEEP] franchise never gets any better.

I agree with you but it feels it's the inevitable GM/HC argument when things are bad. GM blames the HC for not getting enough out the players, HC blames GM for giving him terrible players.

It falls down to the owner and who he feels is most to blame.

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Whatever players the coach has to work with is it.  He needs to create a scheme that fits to what the players do best.  This staff isnt capable of that.  We dont scheme guys open and get outcoached weekly.  On D we play guys out of position as well.

Exactly, and when the guy who picks them is terrible at his job you get a D+ level roster that your coach makes C- and you guys blame the coach. It's why this [BLEEP] franchise never gets any better.

They worked together when building this roster.  Its been said by both it is a collaberative when building the roster.  Im sure Doug had a lot of say on this offense that has been put together.

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Exactly, and when the guy who picks them is terrible at his job you get a D+ level roster that your coach makes C- and you guys blame the coach. It's why this [BLEEP] franchise never gets any better.

I agree with you but it feels it's the inevitable GM/HC argument when things are bad. GM blames the HC for not getting enough out the players, HC blames GM for giving him terrible players.

It falls down to the owner and who he feels is most to blame.

This is the good thing.  I think Khan will realize both are to blame and the reason we are so bad and both will be shown the door.

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I'm not sure firing Nielsen is a good idea. They were quite good last week and this week was great.

Bro are you being serious? It was Sam Darnold. The damage is already done. He’s already got his suit cases packed.

That Jaguars defense gave up 241 passing yards to Darnold.

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Exactly, and when the guy who picks them is terrible at his job you get a D+ level roster that your coach makes C- and you guys blame the coach. It's why this [BLEEP] franchise never gets any better.

They worked together when building this roster.  Its been said by both it is a collaberative when building the roster.  Im sure Doug had a lot of say on this offense that has been put together.

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I agree with you but it feels it's the inevitable GM/HC argument when things are bad. GM blames the HC for not getting enough out the players, HC blames GM for giving him terrible players.

It falls down to the owner and who he feels is most to blame.

This is the good thing.  I think Khan will realize both are to blame and the reason we are so bad and both will be shown the door.

Trent Baalke said it was a collaborative. Because we should believe that snake.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

They worked together when building this roster.  Its been said by both it is a collaberative when building the roster.  Im sure Doug had a lot of say on this offense that has been put together.

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This is the good thing.  I think Khan will realize both are to blame and the reason we are so bad and both will be shown the door.

Trent Baalke said it was a collaborative. Because we should believe that snake.

Khan knows, he is in the room during the talks and the draft.

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Trent Baalke said it was a collaborative. Because we should believe that snake.

Khan knows, he is in the room during the talks and the draft.

Oh gosh, there's the Reason to Believe!

Lol.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

They worked together when building this roster.  Its been said by both it is a collaberative when building the roster.  Im sure Doug had a lot of say on this offense that has been put together.

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This is the good thing.  I think Khan will realize both are to blame and the reason we are so bad and both will be shown the door.

Trent Baalke said it was a collaborative. Because we should believe that snake.

Did Doug and his lackie agree?

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Trent Baalke said it was a collaborative. Because we should believe that snake.

Did Doug and his lackie agree?

Lackey*

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

He's started using more zone the last couple weeks and it definitely helped. The radio coverage I was listening to said we played 2 deep safeties on 21 of 22 Vikings pass attempts 1st half. 

I give him credit for making adjustments and trying to find a way to improve the D, I do wonder why it tool so long though.

I’m wondering that same thing. I’m also wondering how is this dude a professional football coach.

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