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Trevor Lawrence: Franchise QB (TL Discussion, Merged Threads)


So, today, without Trevor, we have a grand total of 143 yards of total offense. Yeah, obviously Trevor was the problem.
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10 games in and people talking about sitting multi million dollar players. They got 7 games left, they need to play. BTJ and TLAW gaining chemistry is the most important thing for rest of year.
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(11-10-2024, 06:26 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: 10 games in and people talking about sitting multi million dollar players. They got 7 games left, they need to play. BTJ and TLAW gaining chemistry is the most important thing for rest of year.

I agree. At this point we're trying to show potential HC's/GM's what we have on this team and what they have to build around.

Plus I don't want losing to become acceptable again. Culture rot can set in hard and fast.
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(11-10-2024, 06:21 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: So, today, without Trevor, we have a grand total of 143 yards of total offense.  Yeah, obviously Trevor was the problem.

If only Press Taylor had pressed A instead of Y our 43 rated QB wouldn't have thrown that INT. LOl.
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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I think it’s now abundantly clear that Trevor was doing a lot with a little. We need him out there to be competitive.
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(11-10-2024, 06:32 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(11-10-2024, 06:21 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: So, today, without Trevor, we have a grand total of 143 yards of total offense.  Yeah, obviously Trevor was the problem.

If only Press Taylor had pressed A instead of Y our 43 rated QB wouldn't have thrown that INT. LOl.

Bro...  Staaaaawwwwwp.  I don't even know what you are arguing about anymore.  You're just ranting for the sake of it.
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(11-10-2024, 06:17 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(11-10-2024, 06:08 PM)carp8dm Wrote: Bro, I love you.  But you're beginning to take the first flaps of your wings into flying over the cuckoo's nest...  

Get a hold of yourself.

Lol, one day you'll wake up. It may take a third or fourth coaching staff for you to realize it, but it will happen eventually. You'll finally obsess on the correct person instead of the ones who are the victims of his ineptitude.

I've been on board for firing Baalke since last year, dude.  

Baalke has been a problem for several seasons.  But you've ignored the bigger problem, which was Doug and Press.  Those two have ruined our franchise QB.  I don't know why you can't admit that this offensive coaching staff has been garbage for the last 2 seasons.  I was hoping that Doug would make an effort to turn it around.  But I was wrong about him.  He is just a lazy HC with a bum OC and he doesn't care about what happens with this offense.  I kept pointing out how things were not right with the offense last year.  I called out Press because I wanted Doug to take over and bring us back to 2022 success.  It's been clear that the problem was not just Press, but Doug and Press.  It's time to flush both turds.  

And obviously Baalke needs to go in order to get a real HC that doesn't want to be tied to the cancer that is Baalke/Worm Tongue
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(11-10-2024, 07:02 PM)carp8dm Wrote:
(11-10-2024, 06:17 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Lol, one day you'll wake up. It may take a third or fourth coaching staff for you to realize it, but it will happen eventually. You'll finally obsess on the correct person instead of the ones who are the victims of his ineptitude.

I've been on board for firing Baalke since last year, dude.  

Baalke has been a problem for several seasons.  But you've ignored the bigger problem, which was Doug and Press.  Those two have ruined our franchise QB.  I don't know why you can't admit that this offensive coaching staff has been garbage for the last 2 seasons.  I was hoping that Doug would make an effort to turn it around.  But I was wrong about him.  He is just a lazy HC with a bum OC and he doesn't care about what happens with this offense.  I kept pointing out how things were not right with the offense last year.  I called out Press because I wanted Doug to take over and bring us back to 2022 success.  It's been clear that the problem was not just Press, but Doug and Press.  It's time to flush both turds.  

And obviously Baalke needs to go in order to get a real HC that doesn't want to be tied to the cancer that is Baalke/Worm Tongue

Idiocy. That's all you have. If the base materials are [BLEEP] then the person working them has no chance. Damn it, learn this lesson dude. If you only change GMs this team will be better; if you only change HCs this team will be the worse. For [BLEEP]'s sake, I can't say it any plainer to make you understand. I don't care if they keep Pederson, but Pederson ain't the problem. You're going to be so sad a year from now when another Baalke roster underachieves and puts a new coach's job and reputation on the line.
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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(11-10-2024, 06:40 PM)jessepeck1213 Wrote: I think it’s now abundantly clear that Trevor was doing a lot with a little. We need him out there to be competitive.

With a healthy front five, Christian Kirk, and TL on the field - the Jags probably win that one walking away.

I wonder if the defense can play that scrappy in more games this year? Feels like a fluke for now. Caught 'em sleeping to some degree. 

the vikes took advantage of getting TEs mismatched in coverage all day but couldn't do anything else consistently on offense
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(11-10-2024, 09:08 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(11-10-2024, 07:02 PM)carp8dm Wrote: I've been on board for firing Baalke since last year, dude.  

Baalke has been a problem for several seasons.  But you've ignored the bigger problem, which was Doug and Press.  Those two have ruined our franchise QB.  I don't know why you can't admit that this offensive coaching staff has been garbage for the last 2 seasons.  I was hoping that Doug would make an effort to turn it around.  But I was wrong about him.  He is just a lazy HC with a bum OC and he doesn't care about what happens with this offense.  I kept pointing out how things were not right with the offense last year.  I called out Press because I wanted Doug to take over and bring us back to 2022 success.  It's been clear that the problem was not just Press, but Doug and Press.  It's time to flush both turds.  

And obviously Baalke needs to go in order to get a real HC that doesn't want to be tied to the cancer that is Baalke/Worm Tongue

Idiocy. That's all you have. If the base materials are [BLEEP] then the person working them has no chance. Damn it, learn this lesson dude. If you only change GMs this team will be better; if you only change HCs this team will be the worse. For [BLEEP]'s sake, I can't say it any plainer to make you understand. I don't care if they keep Pederson, but Pederson ain't the problem. You're going to be so sad a year from now when another Baalke roster underachieves and puts a new coach's job and reputation on the line.
Hold up though.

Haven’t we been told time and time again that Pederson and Baalke make personnel decisions together?

They both deserve to be fired. Baalke is a snake but if you can’t see that Pederson also has some fault here…..
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Defense balled out today. Go figure. If tlaw was in we win this by at least 2 scores
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(11-10-2024, 09:44 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(11-10-2024, 09:08 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Idiocy. That's all you have. If the base materials are [BLEEP] then the person working them has no chance. Damn it, learn this lesson dude. If you only change GMs this team will be better; if you only change HCs this team will be the worse. For [BLEEP]'s sake, I can't say it any plainer to make you understand. I don't care if they keep Pederson, but Pederson ain't the problem. You're going to be so sad a year from now when another Baalke roster underachieves and puts a new coach's job and reputation on the line.
Hold up though.

Haven’t we been told time and time again that Pederson and Baalke make personnel decisions together?

They both deserve to be fired. Baalke is a snake but if you can’t see that Pederson also has some fault here…..

I dont care if Pederson is fired, but he's the lesser issue to the GM. The players aren't good enough regardless of the coaching, end of story.
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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(11-10-2024, 10:00 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(11-10-2024, 09:44 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: Hold up though.

Haven’t we been told time and time again that Pederson and Baalke make personnel decisions together?

They both deserve to be fired. Baalke is a snake but if you can’t see that Pederson also has some fault here…..

I dont care if Pederson is fired, but he's the lesser issue to the GM. The players aren't good enough regardless of the coaching, end of story.

If you have 2 [BLEEP] stains and one is bigger than the other you won't be arguing over which one is worse, you clean up and get rid of both of them.
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(11-10-2024, 10:00 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(11-10-2024, 09:44 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: Hold up though.

Haven’t we been told time and time again that Pederson and Baalke make personnel decisions together?

They both deserve to be fired. Baalke is a snake but if you can’t see that Pederson also has some fault here…..

I dont care if Pederson is fired, but he's the lesser issue to the GM. The players aren't good enough regardless of the coaching, end of story.


You've lost your dog on mind.
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(11-10-2024, 10:02 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(11-10-2024, 10:00 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: I dont care if Pederson is fired, but he's the lesser issue to the GM. The players aren't good enough regardless of the coaching, end of story.

If you have 2 [BLEEP] stains and one is bigger than the other you won't be arguing over which one is worse, you clean up and get rid of both of them.

[BLEEP] outta here with that nonsense. When one must first have the other succeed to be successful then you understand the issue here.

(11-10-2024, 10:02 PM)carp8dm Wrote:
(11-10-2024, 10:00 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: I dont care if Pederson is fired, but he's the lesser issue to the GM. The players aren't good enough regardless of the coaching, end of story.


You've lost your dog on mind.

I can only show you the way, I cannot make you walk the path,

And it's doggone*
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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(11-10-2024, 10:19 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(11-10-2024, 10:02 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: If you have 2 [BLEEP] stains and one is bigger than the other you won't be arguing over which one is worse, you clean up and get rid of both of them.

[BLEEP] outta here with that nonsense. When one must first have the other succeed to be successful then you understand the issue here.

(11-10-2024, 10:02 PM)carp8dm Wrote: You've lost your dog on mind.

I can only show you the way, I cannot make you walk the path,

And it's doggone*
When you finally understand that coaching matters as well as playcalling then you will understand.  If you never learn that you wont understand how the game works.  Its like trying to explain it to a child.  He won 9 games the last 2 seasons with an equal or possibly less talented roster.  Doug has lost the drive and he let Press take the charge on offense.  He has been outcoached week in and week out.  His clock management is at the bottom of the league and hes lost all will.  Doug is burned out and its time for a new leader of this football team.  He along with Ballke helped build this team and they have failed as a team.  A new GM and HC is on the way. If you think this team is well coached, well.........lol

When Doug got hired Khan said Doug and Baalke are equal and both report to him. Thats all you need to know.
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(11-10-2024, 10:29 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(11-10-2024, 10:19 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [BLEEP] outta here with that nonsense. When one must first have the other succeed to be successful then you understand the issue here.


I can only show you the way, I cannot make you walk the path,

And it's doggone*
When you finally understand that coaching matters as well as playcalling then you will understand.  If you never learn that you wont understand how the game works.  Its like trying to explain it to a child.  He won 9 games the last 2 seasons with an equal or possibly less talented roster.  Doug has lost the drive and he let Press take the charge on offense.  He has been outcoached week in and week out.  His clock management is at the bottom of the league and hes lost all will.  Doug is burned out and its time for a new leader of this football team.  He along with Ballke helped build this team and they have failed as a team.  A new GM and HC is on the way.  If you think this team is well coached, well.........lol

When Doug got hired Khan said Doug and Baalke are equal and both report to him.  Thats all you need to know.

And I've forgotten more about this game than you'll ever know. The team is getting all they can out of this roster, regardless of coaching. Your problem is you believe what you're told, and I know that what I'm told is bull [BLEEP].
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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(11-10-2024, 10:33 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(11-10-2024, 10:29 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: When you finally understand that coaching matters as well as playcalling then you will understand.  If you never learn that you wont understand how the game works.  Its like trying to explain it to a child.  He won 9 games the last 2 seasons with an equal or possibly less talented roster.  Doug has lost the drive and he let Press take the charge on offense.  He has been outcoached week in and week out.  His clock management is at the bottom of the league and hes lost all will.  Doug is burned out and its time for a new leader of this football team.  He along with Ballke helped build this team and they have failed as a team.  A new GM and HC is on the way.  If you think this team is well coached, well.........lol

When Doug got hired Khan said Doug and Baalke are equal and both report to him.  Thats all you need to know.

And I've forgotten more about this game than you'll ever know. The team is getting all they can out of this roster, regardless of coaching. Your problem is you believe what you're told, and I know that what I'm told is bull [BLEEP].

hahahaha, you should pin that on you sig . You are the only cluless Jags fan that thinks we have great coaching

What was I told?
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(11-10-2024, 10:36 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(11-10-2024, 10:33 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: And I've forgotten more about this game than you'll ever know. The team is getting all they can out of this roster, regardless of coaching. Your problem is you believe what you're told, and I know that what I'm told is bull [BLEEP].

hahahaha, you should pin that on you sig 

What was I told?

Trent and Doug have equal say for one thing. That's not possible, but you do you.
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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(11-10-2024, 10:37 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(11-10-2024, 10:36 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: hahahaha, you should pin that on you sig 

What was I told?

Trent and Doug have equal say for one thing. That's not possible, but you do you.
That came from the owner.   Why would he lie about that?
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