For the haters, life without TLaw. - 143yds total offense

First 9 games, 320 yds/game.

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For the haters, life without TLaw. -  143yds total offense

First 9 games, 320 yds/game.

Mehhh. Vikings are a really good defensive football team though. 6th in points allowed. 11th in yards allowed. 22nd against the pass. 1st against the run. 

Trevor would have probably won yesterday's game though.

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For the haters, life without TLaw. -  143yds total offense

First 9 games, 320 yds/game.

Mehhh. Vikings are a really good defensive football team though. 6th in points allowed. 11th in yards allowed. 22nd against the pass. 1st against the run. 

Trevor would have probably won yesterday's game though.

They started out really good.  Coming into yesterday they had 29 points or more scored on them in 3 of their last 5 games.  That would be bad if we played the number 1 D.  They arent event a top 5 D, 22nd against the pass and Jones had 111 yrds with 2 INTs, horrendous

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For the haters, life without TLaw. -  143yds total offense

First 9 games, 320 yds/game.

Mehhh. Vikings are a really good defensive football team though. 6th in points allowed. 11th in yards allowed. 22nd against the pass. 1st against the run. 

Trevor would have probably won yesterday's game though.

Prior to yesterday's game, they were 28th in the league in passing defense giving up 250 yds/g.   They are now at 231 yd/g after yesterday.

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Can we make comparisons to CJ Stroud again?

Hot tip, this second year player is demonstrating what a franchise QB is expected to do.

Lol

Idiot troll gonna idiot. He posts way too soon. I remember when he popped into the chargers thread to gloat only to disappear completely after

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Lol

Idiot troll gonna idiot. He posts way too soon. I remember when he popped into the chargers thread to gloat only to disappear completely after

He's a Titans fan

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Well the texans are choking

They'll still land the 4th seed at the minimum and probably be one and done in the post season. We should have been challenging them this year for the divisional lead though. We're just not as competent or competitive as they are as a total team and it is what it is.

We're a handful of plays away from being right there with them record wise.  Very frustrating.

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They'll still land the 4th seed at the minimum and probably be one and done in the post season. We should have been challenging them this year for the divisional lead though. We're just not as competent or competitive as they are as a total team and it is what it is.

We're a handful of plays away from being right there with them record wise.  Very frustrating.

Handful of plays? Sarcasm right lol? We are about to land the #1 overall pick, we need a complete tear down top to bottom including a roster reconstruction. We are no where close to where this team needs to be to win. We aren't in the same universe as a winning team right now. That had to of been a joke to say that lol. 

You keep 16, 44, 7, 41, 23, 3, 17, 77, 22, 39, 51, and 4. We need 40 new players on this team.

edit- keep 46 as well, our only all pro talent. 39 new players needed.

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We're a handful of plays away from being right there with them record wise.  Very frustrating.

Handful of plays? Sarcasm right lol? We are about to land the #1 overall pick, we need a complete tear down top to bottom including a roster reconstruction. We are no where close to where this team needs to be to win. We aren't in the same universe as a winning team right now. That had to of been a joke to say that lol. 

You keep 16, 44, 7, 41, 23, 3, 17, 77, 22, 39, 51, and 4. We need 40 new players on this team.

edit- keep 46 as well, our only all pro talent. 39 new players needed.

Not wrong. The league is very, very bad. We are a few plays away. The team is bad where it counts and that is the overall long term problem.

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We're a handful of plays away from being right there with them record wise.  Very frustrating.

Handful of plays? Sarcasm right lol? We are about to land the #1 overall pick, we need a complete tear down top to bottom including a roster reconstruction. We are no where close to where this team needs to be to win. We aren't in the same universe as a winning team right now. That had to of been a joke to say that lol. 

You keep 16, 44, 7, 41, 23, 3, 17, 77, 22, 39, 51, and 4. We need 40 new players on this team.

edit- keep 46 as well, our only all pro talent. 39 new players needed.

I can name four of them right off the top of my head: the ETN fumble, the safety from guy beating the double block against cleveland, the Kirk drop on 3rd and 9 that gave the tinhorns the ball back, and the Willis swing pass for 50 yards to set up the GB winning field goal.  Those 4 plays are the difference in 4 wins and 4 losses, and the Jags came out on the wrong side every time.

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Handful of plays? Sarcasm right lol? We are about to land the #1 overall pick, we need a complete tear down top to bottom including a roster reconstruction. We are no where close to where this team needs to be to win. We aren't in the same universe as a winning team right now. That had to of been a joke to say that lol. 

You keep 16, 44, 7, 41, 23, 3, 17, 77, 22, 39, 51, and 4. We need 40 new players on this team.

edit- keep 46 as well, our only all pro talent. 39 new players needed.

I can name four of them right off the top of my head: the ETN fumble, the safety from guy beating the double block against cleveland, the Kirk drop on 3rd and 9 that gave the tinhorns the ball back, and the Willis swing pass for 50 yards to set up the GB winning field goal.  Those 4 plays are the difference in 4 wins and 4 losses, and the Jags came out on the wrong side every time.

Is it not obvious at this point, that even if those 4 plays don't happen, that something else equally as bad as those 4 plays would occur later in the games? I mean, we are watching the same Jaguars? It's complete incompetence and the team FINDS a way to lose. They'll find a way to lose, no matter what, and a new 4 plays will take the place of the ones you listed.

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I can name four of them right off the top of my head: the ETN fumble, the safety from guy beating the double block against cleveland, the Kirk drop on 3rd and 9 that gave the tinhorns the ball back, and the Willis swing pass for 50 yards to set up the GB winning field goal.  Those 4 plays are the difference in 4 wins and 4 losses, and the Jags came out on the wrong side every time.

Is it not obvious at this point, that even if those 4 plays don't happen, that something else equally as bad as those 4 plays would occur later in the games? I mean, we are watching the same Jaguars? It's complete incompetence and the team FINDS a way to lose. They'll find a way to lose, no matter what, and a new 4 plays will take the place of the ones you listed.

Maybe, but again, those handful of plays are literally the difference in winning and losing those games. The team is snakebit, as you said, they just find new and innovative ways to lose games they should be winning.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Is it not obvious at this point, that even if those 4 plays don't happen, that something else equally as bad as those 4 plays would occur later in the games? I mean, we are watching the same Jaguars? It's complete incompetence and the team FINDS a way to lose. They'll find a way to lose, no matter what, and a new 4 plays will take the place of the ones you listed.

Maybe, but again, those handful of plays are literally the difference in winning and losing those games. The team is snakebit, as you said, they just find new and innovative ways to lose games they should be winning.

I get it, it's opinion based but for me it's not a maybe, it's an absolute fact. I wish I could be more optimistic, but this current team has 3 years of proof that something is beyond wrong. 2022 feels like an absolute fluke. 8-3 last year to a full collapse. 2-8 to begin the season. The team doesn't make winning plays, they make losing plays. It is no longer a hypothetical. To say the team is 4 plays away from from winning 4 additional games is delusional man lol, we KNOW something bad is going to happen. We are numb to it because we have endured decades of losing, but to an outsider fan watching, you just damn well know the team finds a way to lose. 

flgatorsandjags posted earlier that teams were 195-0 in NFL history when a team forces 3 turnovers the the other team doesn't score a TD. That stat is now 195-1 thanks to our 2024 Jags. We find ways to lose, like thanos, it is inevitable. 

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Winning is the fluke for this team but it doesn't mean 4 plays away would flip the wins. Even if they had won it doesn't mean the team is a contender. The problems are absolutely glaring.

I wish it was just coaching.

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Maybe, but again, those handful of plays are literally the difference in winning and losing those games. The team is snakebit, as you said, they just find new and innovative ways to lose games they should be winning.

I get it, it's opinion based but for me it's not a maybe, it's an absolute fact. I wish I could be more optimistic, but this current team has 3 years of proof that something is beyond wrong. 2022 feels like an absolute fluke. 8-3 last year to a full collapse. 2-8 to begin the season. The team doesn't make winning plays, they make losing plays. It is no longer a hypothetical. To say the team is 4 plays away from from winning 4 additional games is delusional man lol, we KNOW something bad is going to happen. We are numb to it because we have endured decades of losing, but to an outsider fan watching, you just damn well know the team finds a way to lose. 

flgatorsandjags posted earlier that teams were 195-0 in NFL history when a team forces 3 turnovers the the other team doesn't score a TD. That stat is now 195-1 thanks to our 2024 Jags. We find ways to lose, like thanos, it is inevitable. 

This team has 8 losses.  6 of those are 1 score games, so yes, this team is only a handful of plays away from a winning record and contending for the division.   No, that doesn't mean SB contenders.

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Winning is the fluke for this team but it doesn't mean 4 plays away would flip the wins. Even if they had won it doesn't mean the team is a contender. The problems are absolutely glaring.

I wish it was just coaching.

You are only as good of a coach as your QB. I think we found that out in the ending dynasty of the New England Patriots once Tom left....

Until we find our franchise QB - this team will suffer.  Under TL we will stick to mediocrity and the suckage depending on WRs and injuries. I think being mediocre is better than being in the situation we are in 2024 though.

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I get it, it's opinion based but for me it's not a maybe, it's an absolute fact. I wish I could be more optimistic, but this current team has 3 years of proof that something is beyond wrong. 2022 feels like an absolute fluke. 8-3 last year to a full collapse. 2-8 to begin the season. The team doesn't make winning plays, they make losing plays. It is no longer a hypothetical. To say the team is 4 plays away from from winning 4 additional games is delusional man lol, we KNOW something bad is going to happen. We are numb to it because we have endured decades of losing, but to an outsider fan watching, you just damn well know the team finds a way to lose. 

flgatorsandjags posted earlier that teams were 195-0 in NFL history when a team forces 3 turnovers the the other team doesn't score a TD. That stat is now 195-1 thanks to our 2024 Jags. We find ways to lose, like thanos, it is inevitable. 

This team has 8 losses.  6 of those are 1 score games, so yes, this team is only a handful of plays away from a winning record and contending for the division.   No, that doesn't mean SB contenders.

Jesus christ, lol. 

Lets take yesterdays game as an example. Vikings had the ball for 43 minutes and ran up 400 yards of offense. We ran up 143 yards of total offense and a total of 10 first downs. It was a one score game. Did you watch yesterdays game and ever think we were a handful of plays from winning? We weren't, we got absolutely smacked. What we can argue is we are lucky it was a 1 score game, and not a 30 point blowout. We were losing this game regardless. Can't keep looking at this game on paper, and say "one score game, could of won". We were not a play away from winning yesterday's game. We were never even in the ball game, if we are being honest. This literally applies to almost every 1 score game we have had this year. We aren't a handful of plays away from winning, we are a handful of plays from all these games being absolute blowouts.

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This team has 8 losses.  6 of those are 1 score games, so yes, this team is only a handful of plays away from a winning record and contending for the division.   No, that doesn't mean SB contenders.

Jesus christ, lol. 

Lets take yesterdays game as an example. Vikings had the ball for 43 minutes and ran up 400 yards of offense. We ran up 143 yards of total offense and a total of 10 first downs. It was a one score game. Did you watch yesterdays game and ever think we were a handful of plays from winning? We weren't, we got absolutely smacked. What we can argue is we are lucky it was a 1 score game, and not a 30 point blowout. We were losing this game regardless. Can't keep looking at this game on paper, and say "one score game, could of won". We were not a play away from winning yesterday's game. We were never even in the ball game, if we are being honest. This literally applies to almost every 1 score game we have had this year. We aren't a handful of plays away from winning, we are a handful of plays from all these games being absolute blowouts.

I did not watch yesterday's game.  But as it has already been stated,  Miami, Browns, GB, Philly, and Tinhorns were all games where 1 play was the difference between W and L.

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Winning is the fluke for this team but it doesn't mean 4 plays away would flip the wins. Even if they had won it doesn't mean the team is a contender. The problems are absolutely glaring.

I wish it was just coaching.

You are only as good of a coach as your QB. I think we found that out in the ending dynasty of the New England Patriots once Tom left....

Until we find our franchise QB - this team will suffer.  Under TL we will stick to mediocrity and the suckage depending on WRs and injuries. I think being mediocre is better than being in the situation we are in 2024 though.

"We."

Sure thing, buddy.

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This team has 8 losses.  6 of those are 1 score games, so yes, this team is only a handful of plays away from a winning record and contending for the division.   No, that doesn't mean SB contenders.

Jesus christ, lol. 

Lets take yesterdays game as an example. Vikings had the ball for 43 minutes and ran up 400 yards of offense. We ran up 143 yards of total offense and a total of 10 first downs. It was a one score game. Did you watch yesterdays game and ever think we were a handful of plays from winning? We weren't, we got absolutely smacked. What we can argue is we are lucky it was a 1 score game, and not a 30 point blowout. We were losing this game regardless. Can't keep looking at this game on paper, and say "one score game, could of won". We were not a play away from winning yesterday's game. We were never even in the ball game, if we are being honest. This literally applies to almost every 1 score game we have had this year. We aren't a handful of plays away from winning, we are a handful of plays from all these games being absolute blowouts.

As far as yesterday's game, we make the 4th and 1 stop with 8 minutes left and Minnesota may never get the lead.

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