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The Walker Little era is here.

#81

(11-11-2024, 06:32 PM)carp8dm Wrote:
(11-11-2024, 06:12 PM)TDOSS Wrote: ..so you think Walker is a franchise LT for this team?

I think there are other linemen we should be targeting in the draft and free agency...  Of course, we'll probably let Little walk, and therefore we'll be completely screwed.

I'm just saying it's better to try and keep Little for now, if we can.  Our Guards are aging and probably not going to be consistent next year.  Cleveland is serviceable at Center, but he's not elite.  There's other areas to target on the O-Line than Little.  Little is better than Cam Robinson, that's all I'm saying.  Hopefully we can keep him and focus on other areas of the line.  I'm just saying that Little isn't the problem of the O-Line.  It's the interior of the Line that is problematic.

We all have our own opinion(s) to which we're entitled to BUT, the coaching staff and GM Begs To Differ. I say acquire our franchise LT within the 2025 NFL Draft and resign Little as depth across the OL. How will it play out?

Time Will Tell.

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#82

(11-11-2024, 09:37 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(11-11-2024, 09:11 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: NO

Wrong again 

The grade of "60.0" is what they deem as average in their grading system. 
Not "the sixties" 
He graded 13 above average.

https://twitter.com/PFF_Titans/status/12...9706561537

Little graded out at 63.4 of which is on the LOW Side of being average.

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#83

(11-12-2024, 01:33 PM)NH3 Wrote:
(11-11-2024, 09:37 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: https://twitter.com/PFF_Titans/status/12...9706561537

Little graded out at 63.4 of which is on the LOW Side of being average.

NH3...

Incorrect

His week ten grade was 73.3 

89.6 in pass pro and 55.6 in Run Blk 

[Image: pff-grades-offense-week-10-v0-k6xm72juia...493c68d75d]
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#84

(11-11-2024, 06:32 PM)carp8dm Wrote:
(11-11-2024, 06:12 PM)TDOSS Wrote: ..so you think Walker is a franchise LT for this team?

I think there are other linemen we should be targeting in the draft and free agency...  Of course, we'll probably let Little walk, and therefore we'll be completely screwed.

I'm just saying it's better to try and keep Little for now, if we can.  Our Guards are aging and probably not going to be consistent next year.  Cleveland is serviceable at Center, but he's not elite.  There's other areas to target on the O-Line than Little.  Little is better than Cam Robinson, that's all I'm saying.  Hopefully we can keep him and focus on other areas of the line.  I'm just saying that Little isn't the problem of the O-Line.  It's the interior of the Line that is problematic.

Thanks for your opinion. However your opinion is invalid.
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#85

(11-12-2024, 02:11 PM)TDOSS Wrote:
(11-11-2024, 06:32 PM)carp8dm Wrote: I think there are other linemen we should be targeting in the draft and free agency...  Of course, we'll probably let Little walk, and therefore we'll be completely screwed.

I'm just saying it's better to try and keep Little for now, if we can.  Our Guards are aging and probably not going to be consistent next year.  Cleveland is serviceable at Center, but he's not elite.  There's other areas to target on the O-Line than Little.  Little is better than Cam Robinson, that's all I'm saying.  Hopefully we can keep him and focus on other areas of the line.  I'm just saying that Little isn't the problem of the O-Line.  It's the interior of the Line that is problematic.

Thanks for your opinion. However your opinion is invalid.

The O-Line did fine.  The play calling was trash.  The QB was trash.  And the the way we played the game was trash.  I'm happy we got rid of Cam.  I'm happy we have Little at LT.  He's better than anything we've had for 2 seasons.  Bet you he'll continue to get better once we get a coaching staff that has passion to develop the team.
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#86

How does Parker Washington not have more than like 23 snaps being the slot guy. Or they just decide to run two TEs all game
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#87

(11-12-2024, 01:18 PM)NH3 Wrote:
(11-11-2024, 06:32 PM)carp8dm Wrote: I think there are other linemen we should be targeting in the draft and free agency...  Of course, we'll probably let Little walk, and therefore we'll be completely screwed.

I'm just saying it's better to try and keep Little for now, if we can.  Our Guards are aging and probably not going to be consistent next year.  Cleveland is serviceable at Center, but he's not elite.  There's other areas to target on the O-Line than Little.  Little is better than Cam Robinson, that's all I'm saying.  Hopefully we can keep him and focus on other areas of the line.  I'm just saying that Little isn't the problem of the O-Line.  It's the interior of the Line that is problematic.

We all have our own opinion(s) to which we're entitled to BUT, the coaching staff and GM Begs To Differ. I say acquire our franchise LT within the 2025 NFL Draft and resign Little as depth across the OL. How will it play out?

Time Will Tell.

NH3...

If Little will sign for reserve money, I'd agree that it's better to keep him in the ranks than it is to start fresh with starter and backup. Foster might be the swing of the future, but until I see it, I ain't counting it.
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#88

(11-13-2024, 08:45 AM)Mikey Wrote:
(11-12-2024, 01:18 PM)NH3 Wrote: We all have our own opinion(s) to which we're entitled to BUT, the coaching staff and GM Begs To Differ. I say acquire our franchise LT within the 2025 NFL Draft and resign Little as depth across the OL. How will it play out?

Time Will Tell.

NH3...

If Little will sign for reserve money, I'd agree that it's better to keep him in the ranks than it is to start fresh with starter and backup. Foster might be the swing of the future, but until I see it, I ain't counting it.

Willing to bet that whoever is the GM next year will sign/or get a LT in the early rounds. Possibly first. You just invested tons of money on a QB and you cannot start your next season deciding if Little Walker is a starter or not (he isn't).  You simply cant ignore the most important position of the unit. But then again we are the Jacksonville Jaguars we have a long history of not being able to build rosters. So who knows.
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#89

(11-13-2024, 12:22 PM)TDOSS Wrote:
(11-13-2024, 08:45 AM)Mikey Wrote: If Little will sign for reserve money, I'd agree that it's better to keep him in the ranks than it is to start fresh with starter and backup. Foster might be the swing of the future, but until I see it, I ain't counting it.

Willing to bet that whoever is the GM next year will sign/or get a LT in the early rounds. Possibly first. You just invested tons of money on a QB and you cannot start your next season deciding if Little Walker is a starter or not (he isn't).  You simply cant ignore the most important position of the unit. But then again we are the Jacksonville Jaguars we have a long history of not being able to build rosters. So who knows.

I think they have to trade down as far as possible and get a center and tackle, perhaps a guard depending on how the new regime sees Tugboat and Foster. If they decide to move on from Little then it's a tackle up high and an IOL in the 2nd. I'd just hate to lose the opportunity for an additional guy or two in the top 64 picks in exchange for a tackle.
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#90

(11-13-2024, 12:22 PM)TDOSS Wrote:
(11-13-2024, 08:45 AM)Mikey Wrote: If Little will sign for reserve money, I'd agree that it's better to keep him in the ranks than it is to start fresh with starter and backup. Foster might be the swing of the future, but until I see it, I ain't counting it.

Willing to bet that whoever is the GM next year will sign/or get a LT in the early rounds. Possibly first. You just invested tons of money on a QB and you cannot start your next season deciding if Little Walker is a starter or not (he isn't).  You simply cant ignore the most important position of the unit. But then again we are the Jacksonville Jaguars we have a long history of not being able to build rosters. So who knows.

I like Little as the swing/backup, not starter. Apologies if my wording was unclear. I agree that we will have a new LT next year, whether that's moving Harrison over and darfting an RT (or let Foster take the spot?) or keeping Harrison on the right and darfting the LT.

We still gotta find some interior help. Morse and Scherff aren't getting younger and the tugboat hasn't been able to stay off IR.
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#91

(11-13-2024, 12:25 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(11-13-2024, 12:22 PM)TDOSS Wrote: Willing to bet that whoever is the GM next year will sign/or get a LT in the early rounds. Possibly first. You just invested tons of money on a QB and you cannot start your next season deciding if Little Walker is a starter or not (he isn't).  You simply cant ignore the most important position of the unit. But then again we are the Jacksonville Jaguars we have a long history of not being able to build rosters. So who knows.

I think they have to trade down as far as possible and get a center and tackle, perhaps a guard depending on how the new regime sees Tugboat and Foster. If they decide to move on from Little then it's a tackle up high and an IOL in the 2nd. I'd just hate to lose the opportunity for an additional guy or two in the top 64 picks in exchange for a tackle.

Plausible take. My only concern is we begin the off season dedicated to improving the O-line then somewhere along the way get distracted by a shiny object. We then go shopping at Dollar General to patch things up. Maybe this year they will upgrade to Walmart or Cosco.

The frustrating thing is after a year we are right back where we began last year with the offensive line. Maybe worse.
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#92

(11-12-2024, 02:00 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(11-12-2024, 01:33 PM)NH3 Wrote: Little graded out at 63.4 of which is on the LOW Side of being average.

NH3...

Incorrect

His week ten grade was 73.3 

89.6 in pass pro and 55.6 in Run Blk 

[Image: pff-grades-offense-week-10-v0-k6xm72juia...493c68d75d]

In other words, Walker Little had the best performance of any player on the offense.
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#93

(11-13-2024, 11:13 PM)navyjagfan Wrote:
(11-12-2024, 02:00 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: Incorrect

His week ten grade was 73.3 

89.6 in pass pro and 55.6 in Run Blk 

[Image: pff-grades-offense-week-10-v0-k6xm72juia...493c68d75d]

In other words, Walker Little had the best performance of any player on the offense.

We will know what we have there by season's end.
A new broom always sweeps clean.
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#94

Harrison is your LT of the future.
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#95

(11-14-2024, 12:00 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: Harrison is your LT of the future.

I agree that this is likely, Harrison was a LT (minus 1 game) in college.  In the ideal don't-need-a-QB type of draft, trading down the first pick for a bunch of others makes it easier to pick up a premier RT in the mid-first to early-second.
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#96
(This post was last modified: 11-14-2024, 07:27 PM by TTechJag85. Edited 1 time in total.)

I realize this is probably a post for the college forum… but does anyone know is this considered to be a strong o line draft class? Who are the best prospects for this years o line class that anyone here is familiar with?
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#97

(11-14-2024, 07:27 PM)TTechJag85 Wrote: I realize this is probably a post for the college forum… but does anyone know is this considered to be a strong o line draft class? Who are the best prospects for this years o line class that anyone here is familiar with?

Just my opinion, but I think the Oline class looks pretty strong, with LT Will Campbell looking like the first off the board.  Based off of the current mock drafts it looks like it's a little heavier at T than IOL.
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#98

(11-14-2024, 07:27 PM)TTechJag85 Wrote: I realize this is probably a post for the college forum… but does anyone know is this considered to be a strong o line draft class? Who are the best prospects for this years o line class that anyone here is familiar with?

Aside from a few guys at the top, it is considered the worst OL class in decades because many of these players coming out are "the covid class" 

This crop of prospects is chock full of players who had minimal development and playing experience in college due to programs being shut down or severely limited by covid protocols.
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#99

(11-14-2024, 07:27 PM)TTechJag85 Wrote: I realize this is probably a post for the college forum… but does anyone know is this considered to be a strong o line draft class? Who are the best prospects for this years o line class that anyone here is familiar with?

newp.

From what I've read, there's a few guys who will go in the first, but none are the Joe Thomas type where they are clearly NFL caliber with no flaws. The C class is weak, we missed the boat last year. 

We might be able to address the OG spot(s) with a few of the OT prospects, but yeah, last year was the year to stock up. Whoopsie.
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(11-12-2024, 02:00 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(11-12-2024, 01:33 PM)NH3 Wrote: Little graded out at 63.4 of which is on the LOW Side of being average.

NH3...

Incorrect

His week ten grade was 73.3 

89.6 in pass pro and 55.6 in Run Blk 

[Image: pff-grades-offense-week-10-v0-k6xm72juia...493c68d75d]

https://www.pff.com/nfl/teams/jacksonvil.../15/roster

My Bad for being incorrect BUT I was simply going by PFF's rating as per this thread.

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