Seriously dude, every fart in your head doesn’t need its own thread.

Yet, nobody complains when Drifter posts 5 articles per day from his conservative news outlets.....

Yeah, but two wrongs don't make a right.

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Yet, nobody complains when Drifter posts 5 articles per day from his conservative news outlets.....

Yes they do…lol

Speaking of Drifter. 

I'll actually be in his neck of the woods Saturday for a wedding so I might pop into the bar he used to frequent and see if I spot him.

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Last I checked there were plenty of other industries to work.  Heck, welding schools are paying to train future workers in the industry.   Farming is a an industry choice, not a mandate.  

Hey Gov, we haven't had rain.  Please send me $200,000.  What other industry can someone get paid for sitting at home basking in the sun.

Perhaps I'm simply still pissed when the farmers quit selling a bakers dozen corn on the cob (e.g., give you 13 ears of corn for the price of 12 in the event you get a bad one).

Talk about out-of-touch liberals...

Regarding the part in bold, you should probably spend a day or two (if you could last that long) working on a farm.

I can also guarantee that most farmers are far more knowledgeable about the stock market, specifically commodities than you will ever be.

You all are proving my point.  Being a farmer is a choice.  If you choose that profession, then suck it up buttercup and be prepared to work.  The fact that we are paying their salaries by subsidizing their flawed business is their problem. Can't wait until they lose their "under the table paid workers" and have to get off the sofa instead of watching the stock market all day, obtaining so much more knowledge than I on the subject matter.  Up 18% over the past 7 business days.  Red Red Red --- buy in or get out.  Trump in 2028 !!!!   

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Yes they do…lol

Speaking of Drifter. 

I'll actually be in his neck of the woods Saturday for a wedding so I might pop into the bar he used to frequent and see if I spot him.

Thank you so much! I’m worried about him!

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What in the Wide Wide World of Sports is agoin' on here???

The farmers I know have college degrees in agriculture and think if you have an issue with them, just don't eat their food. Maybe you should grow your own or perhaps survive feasting on the morning dew?

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

The farmers I know have college degrees in agriculture and think if you have an issue with them, just don't eat their food. Maybe you should grow your own or perhaps survive feasting on the morning dew?

Do these guys work grueling hours, milking cows and picking crop?   People on here make it sounds like everyone is breaking their balls from 5am through 8pm in the fields the way old school farmers used to work.  In the meantime, you tell me the farmers you know have college degrees.   If they have college degrees, I assume they are not milking cows and picking crop but rather using their skills to live a white collar style of life getting laborers to do their work.  BUT, we are subsidizing their lifestyle with billions of taxpayer dollars.   Did we also pay their tuition via the student debt forgiveness plan?    DANG, I should have been a farmer ....

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I just wish we had designations showing which products came from subsidized farmers (by the taxpayers) and which products came from legit farmers that don't rely on our taxpayer dollars.

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The farmers I know have college degrees in agriculture and think if you have an issue with them, just don't eat their food. Maybe you should grow your own or perhaps survive feasting on the morning dew?

Do these guys work grueling hours, milking cows and picking crop?   People on here make it sounds like everyone is breaking their balls from 5am through 8pm in the fields the way old school farmers used to work.  In the meantime, you tell me the farmers you know have college degrees.   If they have college degrees, I assume they are not milking cows and picking crop but rather using their skills to live a white collar style of life getting laborers to do their work.  BUT, we are subsidizing their lifestyle with billions of taxpayer dollars.   Did we also pay their tuition via the student debt forgiveness plan?    DANG, I should have been a farmer ....

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I just wish we had designations showing which products came from subsidized farmers (by the taxpayers) and which products came from legit farmers that don't rely on our taxpayer dollars.

I don’t think you would last a week.

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At some point you just have to let go of what you thought should happen and live in what is happening.
 

The farmers I know have college degrees in agriculture and think if you have an issue with them, just don't eat their food. Maybe you should grow your own or perhaps survive feasting on the morning dew?

Do these guys work grueling hours, milking cows and picking crop?   People on here make it sounds like everyone is breaking their balls from 5am through 8pm in the fields the way old school farmers used to work.  In the meantime, you tell me the farmers you know have college degrees.   If they have college degrees, I assume they are not milking cows and picking crop but rather using their skills to live a white collar style of life getting laborers to do their work.  BUT, we are subsidizing their lifestyle with billions of taxpayer dollars.   Did we also pay their tuition via the student debt forgiveness plan?    DANG, I should have been a farmer ....

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I just wish we had designations showing which products came from subsidized farmers (by the taxpayers) and which products came from legit farmers that don't rely on our taxpayer dollars.

You assume wrong, at least for the ones I know. First they paid their own way through college. I have visited them many times over the years. Basically up at dawn and done between 5-6 pm. When they leave their farm they have to make arrangements for the animals which are a 7 day responsibility. They have the risk of the weather and it's affect on crops.  While they do use machinery, no hoeing, hand picking or cow milking on a large basis. It is actually a grueling living. Now I am sure there are situations like you speak about but you definition is too broad brushed. Probably on corporate farms you may find this. Try that morning dew thing, I hear a Panda lives off it. He is a kung Foo expert ...

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

And when Trump begins mass deporting non-criminals, will you admit you have no connection to the real world?

You really do not understand the meaning of the word illegal?  Amazing.
As for what Trump will or will not do you will have to wait and see. Projecting what might happen is a slippery slope and a waste of time.

Trump and Vance have been claiming the legal Haitian immigrants in Springfield Ohio are "illegals", so the bigger problem is that Trump doesn't know what the word "illegal" means.

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You really do not understand the meaning of the word illegal?  Amazing.
As for what Trump will or will not do you will have to wait and see. Projecting what might happen is a slippery slope and a waste of time.

Trump and Vance have been claiming the legal Haitian immigrants in Springfield Ohio are "illegals", so the bigger problem is that Trump doesn't know what the word "illegal" means.

This is correct.  Sad, but correct.
Misguided law enforcement at some level or another is going to start trying to relocate Haitians who have done nothing wrong and immigrated legally.  All because Trump's team demonized them.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Yes they do…lol

Speaking of Drifter. 

I'll actually be in his neck of the woods Saturday for a wedding so I might pop into the bar he used to frequent and see if I spot him.

Please do!

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Yes they do…lol

Speaking of Drifter. 

I'll actually be in his neck of the woods Saturday for a wedding so I might pop into the bar he used to frequent and see if I spot him.

He shouldn't be hard to spot. He'll be the only guy wearing a red Trump dress. I hope you see or hear some good news about him. This absence has been longer than usual.

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The farmers I know have college degrees in agriculture and think if you have an issue with them, just don't eat their food. Maybe you should grow your own or perhaps survive feasting on the morning dew?

Do these guys work grueling hours, milking cows and picking crop?   People on here make it sounds like everyone is breaking their balls from 5am through 8pm in the fields the way old school farmers used to work.  In the meantime, you tell me the farmers you know have college degrees.   If they have college degrees, I assume they are not milking cows and picking crop but rather using their skills to live a white collar style of life getting laborers to do their work.  BUT, we are subsidizing their lifestyle with billions of taxpayer dollars.   Did we also pay their tuition via the student debt forgiveness plan?    DANG, I should have been a farmer ....

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I just wish we had designations showing which products came from subsidized farmers (by the taxpayers) and which products came from legit farmers that don't rely on our taxpayer dollars.

My grandparents owned a cattle ranch in Colorado and my grandfather absolutely busted his balls from sun up to sundown six days a week. Only on Sundays did he only work for just a few hours after church. He literally got paid once a year when he took the cattle to auction to be sold. All of this after he served in WW2. 

He was never subsidized by anyone.

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Do these guys work grueling hours, milking cows and picking crop?   People on here make it sounds like everyone is breaking their balls from 5am through 8pm in the fields the way old school farmers used to work.  In the meantime, you tell me the farmers you know have college degrees.   If they have college degrees, I assume they are not milking cows and picking crop but rather using their skills to live a white collar style of life getting laborers to do their work.  BUT, we are subsidizing their lifestyle with billions of taxpayer dollars.   Did we also pay their tuition via the student debt forgiveness plan?    DANG, I should have been a farmer ....

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I just wish we had designations showing which products came from subsidized farmers (by the taxpayers) and which products came from legit farmers that don't rely on our taxpayer dollars.

My grandparents owned a cattle ranch in Colorado and my grandfather absolutely busted his balls from sun up to sundown six days a week. Only on Sundays did he only work for just a few hours after church. He literally got paid once a year when he took the cattle to auction to be sold. All of this after he served in WW2. 

He was never subsidized by anyone.

AMEN TO THAT !!!   That's what I'm talking about, a real farmer that is not dependent upon taxpayer $$$ to support his career choice.   I don't have an issue with farmers, just the $30 billion that is being subsidized to them.

Crop insurance: The largest farm subsidy program, costing about $10 billion annually. Taxpayers pay for over 60% of crop insurance premiums.

If I'm paying for farmers crop insurance, why can't they pay for my hurricane insurance.

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Do these guys work grueling hours, milking cows and picking crop?   People on here make it sounds like everyone is breaking their balls from 5am through 8pm in the fields the way old school farmers used to work.  In the meantime, you tell me the farmers you know have college degrees.   If they have college degrees, I assume they are not milking cows and picking crop but rather using their skills to live a white collar style of life getting laborers to do their work.  BUT, we are subsidizing their lifestyle with billions of taxpayer dollars.   Did we also pay their tuition via the student debt forgiveness plan?    DANG, I should have been a farmer ....

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I just wish we had designations showing which products came from subsidized farmers (by the taxpayers) and which products came from legit farmers that don't rely on our taxpayer dollars.

My grandparents owned a cattle ranch in Colorado and my grandfather absolutely busted his balls from sun up to sundown six days a week. Only on Sundays did he only work for just a few hours after church. He literally got paid once a year when he took the cattle to auction to be sold. All of this after he served in WW2. 

He was never subsidized by anyone.

That's a beautiful thing. 
You're correct that ranchers and herders get next to nothing from the feds and they carry a lot of risk.  
Families like your grandparents are amazing.
Contrast this with the Cliven Bundy family.  The Bundys think they own the land they use, but they don't.  They are supposed to pay rent to the federal government for the land they use, but they don't.  The RW media complex lumps them in with good folks like your granddad.  Calls them heroes because they point guns at federal agents.  It upsets me a bit.  It would upset me more if I had a family connection to that lifestyle the way you do.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Farmers work hard. I am second generation off the farm. When my parents would leave me at my grandparents it was not to just spend time with them. The guys I know from the area all now have their own farms, paid their way through college and work hard. Just a reminder to all of us not to paint with too broad a brush.

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

Talk about out-of-touch liberals...

Regarding the part in bold, you should probably spend a day or two (if you could last that long) working on a farm.

I can also guarantee that most farmers are far more knowledgeable about the stock market, specifically commodities than you will ever be.

You all are proving my point.  Being a farmer is a choice.  If you choose that profession, then suck it up buttercup and be prepared to work.  The fact that we are paying their salaries by subsidizing their flawed business is their problem. Can't wait until they lose their "under the table paid workers" and have to get off the sofa instead of watching the stock market all day, obtaining so much more knowledge than I on the subject matter.  Up 18% over the past 7 business days.  Red Red Red --- buy in or get out.  Trump in 2028 !!!!   

You have to have additional viable crop growing land ready to go for population increases and potential crop shortages developing elsewhere.   You wouldn't want to see the effects of either one of those things occurring and not having viable crop growing land ready to go.  Those farmers are paid to keep those additional lands dormant for just such an occasion.  Also, land can be over farmed and fields need to be alternated from time to time.  The alternative is those farmers would sell the land to some developer.  There is a bigger picture and a greater good to this situation.

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And when Trump begins mass deporting non-criminals, will you admit you have no connection to the real world?

If someone enters our country illegally (ie.  broke our immigration law) are they or are they not a criminal?

They are not a criminal. Everyone who speeds is a criminal, too.

Most illegal immigrants entered the country legally. Where you gonna deport them to? Wherever they say they came from? You sure they'll be accepted?

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And when Trump begins mass deporting non-criminals, will you admit you have no connection to the real world?

If someone enters our country illegally (ie.  broke our immigration law) are they or are they not a criminal?

Dang it !!! As of last Wednesday, I've finally come to accept criminals as people that I should embrace, and now you're telling me they are not good?  I'm so confused.  I just stick to my guns and support everyone, except TGs that play women's sports.

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