Doug is smart and technically capable, but unfortunately we also had to find out (the hard way) that he is naturally lazy. This team lacks leaders on the players and coaching sides.

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Doug is smart and technically capable, but unfortunately we also had to find out (the hard way) that he is naturally lazy. This team lacks leaders on the players and coaching sides.

Lol, schlubs on a message board talking about a Super Bowl winning and second best coach this franchise has ever had being lazy. Geeeeee-Zus...

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Doug is smart and technically capable, but unfortunately we also had to find out (the hard way) that he is naturally lazy. This team lacks leaders on the players and coaching sides.

Lol, schlubs on a message board talking about a Super Bowl winning and second best coach this franchise has ever had being lazy. Geeeeee-Zus...

In their defense, this wasn't really hard to do.

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Doug is smart and technically capable, but unfortunately we also had to find out (the hard way) that he is naturally lazy. This team lacks leaders on the players and coaching sides.

Lol, schlubs on a message board talking about a Super Bowl winning and second best coach this franchise has ever had being lazy. Geeeeee-Zus...

You think Doug is the 2nd best coach in franchise history? Obviously Tom is number 1. But is Doug any better than JDR or Gus Bradley, his record says he’s not and they were not world beaters by any means. I’d give him the nod over Mularky and Urban so at best he is the 3rd worse coach we’ve ever had.

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Lol, schlubs on a message board talking about a Super Bowl winning and second best coach this franchise has ever had being lazy. Geeeeee-Zus...

You think Doug is the 2nd best coach in franchise history? Obviously Tom is number 1. But is Doug any better than JDR or Gus Bradley, his record says he’s not and they were not world beaters by any means. I’d give him the nod over Mularky and Urban so at best he is the 3rd worse coach we’ve ever had.

Del Rio is 2nd easily

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Lol, schlubs on a message board talking about a Super Bowl winning and second best coach this franchise has ever had being lazy. Geeeeee-Zus...

You think Doug is the 2nd best coach in franchise history? Obviously Tom is number 1. But is Doug any better than JDR or Gus Bradley, his record says he’s not and they were not world beaters by any means. I’d give him the nod over Mularky and Urban so at best he is the 3rd worse coach we’ve ever had.

Gus had a 14-48 record here...

Jack had a 68-71 (69-73 if counting playoffs) record here.

Doug is currently 20-25 (21-26 if counting playoffs).

He's at the worst, the 3rd best HC we've ever had, but I still think the ship has sailed.

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Doug is smart and technically capable, but unfortunately we also had to find out (the hard way) that he is naturally lazy. This team lacks leaders on the players and coaching sides.

Lol, schlubs on a message board talking about a Super Bowl winning and second best coach this franchise has ever had being lazy. Geeeeee-Zus...

I did start out saying he is smart and technically capable, but it seemed like his focus went out the window during the middle of last season

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This dude dodged a bullet with Donna.

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Lol, schlubs on a message board talking about a Super Bowl winning and second best coach this franchise has ever had being lazy. Geeeeee-Zus...

You think Doug is the 2nd best coach in franchise history? Obviously Tom is number 1. But is Doug any better than JDR or Gus Bradley, his record says he’s not and they were not world beaters by any means. I’d give him the nod over Mularky and Urban so at best he is the 3rd worse coach we’ve ever had.

If you go by regular season winning percentage, they are ranked as follows (not counting interim head coaches):

1.  Coughlin (.531)
2.  Del Rio (.489)
3.  Pederson (.455)
4.  Marrone (.348)
5.  Bradley (.226)
6.  Meyer (.154)
7.  Mularkey (.125)

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You think Doug is the 2nd best coach in franchise history? Obviously Tom is number 1. But is Doug any better than JDR or Gus Bradley, his record says he’s not and they were not world beaters by any means. I’d give him the nod over Mularky and Urban so at best he is the 3rd worse coach we’ve ever had.

If you go by regular season winning percentage, they are ranked as follows (not counting interim head coaches):

1.  Coughlin (.531)
2.  Del Rio (.489)
3.  Pederson (.455)
4.  Marrone (.348)
5.  Bradley (.226)
6.  Meyer (.154)
7.  Mularkey (.125)

How pathetic lol. Khan is also responsible for 3-7 lmao.

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This dude dodged a bullet with Donna.

I call her husband Baconface..

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This dude dodged a bullet with Donna.

Donna seems cool. She went off the rails for a while in her younger days but lots of people do. Her Honor is copacetic.

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You think Doug is the 2nd best coach in franchise history? Obviously Tom is number 1. But is Doug any better than JDR or Gus Bradley, his record says he’s not and they were not world beaters by any means. I’d give him the nod over Mularky and Urban so at best he is the 3rd worse coach we’ve ever had.

Gus had a 14-48 record here...

Jack had a 68-71 (69-73 if counting playoffs) record here.

Doug is currently 20-25 (21-26 if counting playoffs).

He's at the worst, the 3rd best HC we've ever had, but I still think the ship has sailed.

 Jack benefited from having the remains of the Coughlin Era his first several seasons here. Doug got to clean up the mess Meyer and Caldwell left on the floor then the glory of working with Baalke. I'd say Pederson did significantly more with infinitely less in his tenure. Hell, the aging Jimmy Smith and Fred Taylor were better in their last two seasons in Jax respectively than any player has been during Pederson's time here. I agree his time is likely over, but damn, people really have no ability to be objective about what he did here.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Gus had a 14-48 record here...

Jack had a 68-71 (69-73 if counting playoffs) record here.

Doug is currently 20-25 (21-26 if counting playoffs).

He's at the worst, the 3rd best HC we've ever had, but I still think the ship has sailed.

 Jack benefited from having the remains of the Coughlin Era his first several seasons here. Doug got to clean up the mess Meyer and Caldwell left on the floor then the glory of working with Baalke. I'd say Pederson did significantly more with infinitely less in his tenure. Hell, the aging Jimmy Smith and Fred Taylor were better in their last two seasons in Jax respectively than any player has been during Pederson's time here. I agree his time is likely over, but damn, people really have no ability to be objective about what he did here.

JDR was a good coach.  He was hampered by a QB that, while I love him, was not a good QB.  I kept telling people during that time, who would we get that was better?  

When we fired JDR we went into a 20 year wilderness.  Garrard was a good QB, but he was a one read QB that nobody coached up.  He was a baller though.  And when we got rid of JDR, it was all over for the franchise.

The only thing that we should be happy for is that Weaver sold out to a dude that was cool with keeping this franchise here in Jacksonville.  Shad Khan, for all his faults kept his promise to Weaver and this city.  You gotta give him his flowers.  He could have easily sold out this city.  But he didn't.  I'll always respect Khan for what he did for this city.  I was a hater on him for a while.  But man, the dude is the most honest billionaire there is.  And we're lucky to have him.

All that said.  It's nice to know that we can finally get rid of Baalke and Pederson.

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 Jack benefited from having the remains of the Coughlin Era his first several seasons here. Doug got to clean up the mess Meyer and Caldwell left on the floor then the glory of working with Baalke. I'd say Pederson did significantly more with infinitely less in his tenure. Hell, the aging Jimmy Smith and Fred Taylor were better in their last two seasons in Jax respectively than any player has been during Pederson's time here. I agree his time is likely over, but damn, people really have no ability to be objective about what he did here.

All that said.  It's nice to know that we can finally get rid of Baalke and Pederson.

Hope is the denial of reality. It is the carrot dangled before the draft horse to keep him plodding along in a vain attempt to reach it. - copied

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

And folks think the political side of the board is angst ridden

This side of the board is toxic lolol

six in one hand , poop in the other.

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Ok bro....  We know Trent hurt us.  We all hate Trent.

But there is only 1 Trent...

There's Trent the GM, Trent the scout, Trent the draft picker, Trent the contract negotiator, Trent the free agent selector, and Trent the information leaker. They all suck.

...the day I find out Baalke earned six separate paychecks for his time in Duval is the day I lose all faith in this organization.

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 Jack benefited from having the remains of the Coughlin Era his first several seasons here. Doug got to clean up the mess Meyer and Caldwell left on the floor then the glory of working with Baalke. I'd say Pederson did significantly more with infinitely less in his tenure. Hell, the aging Jimmy Smith and Fred Taylor were better in their last two seasons in Jax respectively than any player has been during Pederson's time here. I agree his time is likely over, but damn, people really have no ability to be objective about what he did here.

JDR was a good coach.  He was hampered by a QB that, while I love him, was not a good QB.  I kept telling people during that time, who would we get that was better?  

When we fired JDR we went into a 20 year wilderness.  Garrard was a good QB, but he was a one read QB that nobody coached up.  He was a baller though.  And when we got rid of JDR, it was all over for the franchise.

The only thing that we should be happy for is that Weaver sold out to a dude that was cool with keeping this franchise here in Jacksonville.  Shad Khan, for all his faults kept his promise to Weaver and this city.  You gotta give him his flowers.  He could have easily sold out this city.  But he didn't.  I'll always respect Khan for what he did for this city.  I was a hater on him for a while.  But man, the dude is the most honest billionaire there is.  And we're lucky to have him.

All that said.  It's nice to know that we can finally get rid of Baalke and Pederson.

One of the thoughts that has come to mind on this end when watching the Lions running game when its dominating games, is the running game the Jaguars frequently had under JDR, especially in the 2006 and 2007 seasons.  The Jaguars Offensive Line/ run blocking, with MJD and Fred Taylor running behind them, had many 10 + play drives that chewed up clock, and took a heavy toll on the opposing Defense physical and mentally.  Those Jags teams thrived on the ground in the elements. Games in Philadelphia (very windy day in 2006) and Pittsburgh (in snowy conditions) jump out.  The Jags had a 20-play drive (I believe it was in the game at Philadelphia) in one of those games. I can't recall seeing a 20-play drive before or since.

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JDR was a good coach.  He was hampered by a QB that, while I love him, was not a good QB.  I kept telling people during that time, who would we get that was better?  

When we fired JDR we went into a 20 year wilderness.  Garrard was a good QB, but he was a one read QB that nobody coached up.  He was a baller though.  And when we got rid of JDR, it was all over for the franchise.

The only thing that we should be happy for is that Weaver sold out to a dude that was cool with keeping this franchise here in Jacksonville.  Shad Khan, for all his faults kept his promise to Weaver and this city.  You gotta give him his flowers.  He could have easily sold out this city.  But he didn't.  I'll always respect Khan for what he did for this city.  I was a hater on him for a while.  But man, the dude is the most honest billionaire there is.  And we're lucky to have him.

All that said.  It's nice to know that we can finally get rid of Baalke and Pederson.

One of the thoughts that has come to mind on this end when watching the Lions running game when its dominating games, is the running game the Jaguars frequently had under JDR, especially in the 2006 and 2007 seasons.  The Jaguars Offensive Line/ run blocking, with MJD and Fred Taylor running behind them, had many 10 + play drives that chewed up clock, and took a heavy toll on the opposing Defense physical and mentally.  Those Jags teams thrived on the ground in the elements. Games in Philadelphia (very windy day in 2006) and Pittsburgh (in snowy conditions) jump out.  The Jags had a 20-play drive (I believe it was in the game at Philadelphia) in one of those games. I can't recall seeing a 20-play drive before or since.

IOW, we understood who we were, what we intended to do, and we built our team to do it.

Still working on that first bit presently. Stay....tuned?

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You think Doug is the 2nd best coach in franchise history? Obviously Tom is number 1. But is Doug any better than JDR or Gus Bradley, his record says he’s not and they were not world beaters by any means. I’d give him the nod over Mularky and Urban so at best he is the 3rd worse coach we’ve ever had.

If you go by regular season winning percentage, they are ranked as follows (not counting interim head coaches):

1.  Coughlin (.531)
2.  Del Rio (.489)
3.  Pederson (.455)
4.  Marrone (.348)
5.  Bradley (.226)
6.  Meyer (.154)
7.  Mularkey (.125)

Meyer was easily the worst coach.  Going by winning percentage is the easy way out.

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If you go by regular season winning percentage, they are ranked as follows (not counting interim head coaches):

1.  Coughlin (.531)
2.  Del Rio (.489)
3.  Pederson (.455)
4.  Marrone (.348)
5.  Bradley (.226)
6.  Meyer (.154)
7.  Mularkey (.125)

Meyer was easily the worst coach.  Going by winning percentage is the easy way out.

As bad as Meyer was? I can at least counter argue and say that he didn't get more than a year to prove his salt or add more salt to the initial wound. Had it not been for the record breaking PR nightmares this guy created? He would have probably had at least another year in my opinion.

For me, the worst coach we ever had is Gus Bradley. There was nothing redeemable, exciting, compelling or promising during his four year stint here in Jacksonville. 14 - 48. Just an awful football coach.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."