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Should hopefully be a fun week, 
People who keep a eye on socials and the news, keep us updated here

I think the internet is broken, since I still haven't seen the press release drop.

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A coach should not get fired based on a few bad calls that lead to a 46 point loss. If anything Nilsson should get promoted to Asst Head Coach with that swarming ball hawking defense.

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*Insert ric flair woooo here*

Should hopefully be a fun week, 
People who keep a eye on socials and the news, keep us updated here

I think the internet is broken, since I still haven't seen the Press Taylor release drop.

FTFY.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

I don’t see how this is an attractive landing spot for a HC/GM. This is a dumpster fire that needs a full reset. There’s only a handful of players that are rosterable, there is no pro bowl talent let alone all pro lol. NFL is the “not for long” for a reason, you’re almost guaranteed to have a couple back to back losing seasons with this roster. The owner is an idiot with a 62-144 record. [BLEEP] that, this is a nightmare situation for attractive options. This screams retreads as our only options.

....outside of TLaw and maybe JHA, you don't have crippling contracts that limit building the team in your image. You have a starting QB with franchise traits, an owner that isn't a meddler, prefers patience, and is committed to the local market. You have picks, cap room, and better than cellar talent at spots along the roster.

There are MUCH worse jobs out there. There's very few of these openings, pursuit of greener pastures may leave you on the outside looking in. It might depend on how patient you are - I see us as a team with potential to win quickly, with much less overhaul needed than some of the other teams.

Jest - you get Woody Johnson, A. A. Ron and NY media
NO - You get to field the bad news bears while the team continues to mismanage the cap or finally cuts their losses with a reset. 

other possibilities
CIN: Very similar to us, owner that can't get over the top, stars in certain spots, but history of underperformance. (I'd say they are better than us)
CLE: I don't think they move on from Stefanski. You got Haslam for an owner, an angry fanbase, and you got another year of Watson's deal before you can move on. Best thing about the team is Garrett, and talks of trading him surfaced this year - not sure if he wants to stay there long term or not. (unlikely to open, don't think it's any better than here)
NYG: If Mara sticks with Schoen, only a fool would take the HC job. If Mara cleans house, your best shot at a full rebuild. You get to clean up the mess left by the last regime, though.
LVR: They need a QB, the owner needs a hairstylist, or friends with the stones to tell him a decent haircut isn't that hard to find. They're beginning the rebuild, already canned an OC, not sure if the coach makes it to year 2.
DAL: All the expectations in the world and you work under Jerruh's thumb. Potential to win quickly, but if you don't get rings, chances are you'll be gone in 4 years too.

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I don’t see how this is an attractive landing spot for a HC/GM. This is a dumpster fire that needs a full reset. There’s only a handful of players that are rosterable, there is no pro bowl talent let alone all pro lol. NFL is the “not for long” for a reason, you’re almost guaranteed to have a couple back to back losing seasons with this roster. The owner is an idiot with a 62-144 record. [BLEEP] that, this is a nightmare situation for attractive options. This screams retreads as our only options.

....outside of TLaw and maybe JHA, you don't have crippling contracts that limit building the team in your image. You have a starting QB with franchise traits, an owner that isn't a meddler, prefers patience, and is committed to the local market. You have picks, cap room, and better than cellar talent at spots along the roster.

There are MUCH worse jobs out there. There's very few of these openings, pursuit of greener pastures may leave you on the outside looking in. It might depend on how patient you are - I see us as a team with potential to win quickly, with much less overhaul needed than some of the other teams.

Jest - you get Woody Johnson, A. A. Ron and NY media
NO - You get to field the bad news bears while the team continues to mismanage the cap or finally cuts their losses with a reset. 

other possibilities
CIN: Very similar to us, owner that can't get over the top, stars in certain spots, but history of underperformance. (I'd say they are better than us)
CLE: I don't think they move on from Stefanski. You got Haslam for an owner, an angry fanbase, and you got another year of Watson's deal before you can move on. Best thing about the team is Garrett, and talks of trading him surfaced this year - not sure if he wants to stay there long term or not. (unlikely to open, don't think it's any better than here)
NYG: If Mara sticks with Schoen, only a fool would take the HC job. If Mara cleans house, your best shot at a full rebuild. You get to clean up the mess left by the last regime, though.
LVR: They need a QB, the owner needs a hairstylist, or friends with the stones to tell him a decent haircut isn't that hard to find. They're beginning the rebuild, already canned an OC, not sure if the coach makes it to year 2.
DAL: All the expectations in the world and you work under Jerruh's thumb. Potential to win quickly, but if you don't get rings, chances are you'll be gone in 4 years too.

And if a HC candidate has a 24-year-old girlfriend, she might enjoy our mild winter weather and beautiful beaches.

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Agree.

This is not a "blow it up and rebuild" situation.  I've been saying this for a few weeks.  We're a playoff contending team with the right tweaks and a real HC.

If only you could grasp that we're a playoff team with Doug Pederson and those tweaks. You just don't get it.

eh...are you suggesting his general bleakness is just cuz him and Trent aren't besties?

We ran a dang option play with ten seconds in the half, that's not what smart coaches do, for a number of reasons.

I think Doug is beyond restoration at this stage.

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Genuine question - would any of you be ok with the front office being wiped out, a new EVP of football ops hires a GM, and retain Doug on the stipulation he has to bring in a new OC? As much as Pederson has been a disaster over the last 1.5 years this will be his first losing season. His biggest flaw is loyalty to his coaches to a fault. Doug would likely resign, but I would give him that option as Philly did the same before canning him. If the DC pick was forced on him I really feel like he was put in a [BLEEP] situation on that side of the ball. I know the man is cooked, just food for thought.

Not at all, it’s gotta be a clean sweep and start over from scratch. There’s a theory out there that Khan could retain Baalke and bring in Bilichick to oversee the operation. If that happens, it might honestly be the final straw for me as a longtime fan.

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I'm condescending. That means I talk down to you. 
Check out the Jag's Forum Alternative: Duval Football Fans.

Like I said:  Doug is going to be fired.  And it is the correct decision.

Given his outward showings over the course of the year, I can't see him putting much fight into sticking around.
TB could be the problem, sure, but I just don't see any fire out of the coach. I hate it.

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Don't worry guys, I'm sure everyone will be here until the end of the season..

....except the fans

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Like I said:  Doug is going to be fired.  And it is the correct decision.

Given his outward showings over the course of the year, I can't see him putting much fight into sticking around.
TB could be the problem, sure, but I just don't see any fire out of the coach. I hate it.

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Don't worry guys, I'm sure everyone will be here until the end of the season..

....except the fans

I don't think we got fans anymore.. We got a mob lolol

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Bill Belichick with Tom Brady: 219-64
Bill Belichick without Tom Brady: 82-98

Just say no.

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Wow.
Let your xenophobic flag fly there pal. 

Lame as [BLEEP] post

Xenophobic? Lmao the guy is born and raised in Pakistan. What’s wrong with supporting your country’s national team? Get a grip dude lol.

Who knew NYC4Jags was so Woke?

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NYC4jags Wrote:
Can we leave the personal insults behind for a while and get back to some semblance of topic, gents?
Please, and thank you.

Bill Belichick with Tom Brady: 219-64
Bill Belichick without Tom Brady: 82-98

Just say no.

Bill Belichick with a franchise QB: 219-64, with 9 AFC Championships and 6 Super Bowl wins.  

And don't tell me we don't have a franchise QB.  We absolutely do have one.

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At this point, I don't care who we get anymore.. We just need change.

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At this point, I don't care who we get anymore.. We just need change.

We need to get someone who will take the task of building the offensive line much more seriously.

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I was off on BB coming here cause I didn’t think he’d be a fit
But NOW, we need a no BS HC.

BB won’t allow bad football to happen, right now we need a culture change versus a HC, Ben Johnson would be more of the same. We need a dramatic culture shift , and I think BB could help facilitate that.

Didn't we say the same thing about EVP Coughlin? How'd that work out with the youngin's?

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Bill Belichick with Tom Brady: 219-64
Bill Belichick without Tom Brady: 82-98

Just say no.

Bill Belichick with a franchise QB: 219-64, with 9 AFC Championships and 6 Super Bowl wins.  

And don't tell me we don't have a franchise QB.  We absolutely do have one.

The fact that Bill managed to get what he got out of Mac Jones was impressive as well. Considering that Mac CLEARLY is NOT a franchise QB. Just based on the last two games alone, he leaves a ton to be desired as a passer. Does not have a big arm at all. 

I would take Bill Belichick in a heartbeat. Again, you're getting the following at the minimum in my opinion, as it's been a common theme throughout his career:

1. Culture and accountability.

2. A top quality defense.

3. A sound offensive line.

4. A running game.

5. An identity.

6. A master of the NFL rulebook. If there's something to exploit? He already knows about it and how to approach it.

Trevor Lawrence with Bill Belichick, at the very minimum, in 2025? Willing to bet you get what the Chargers currently have right now with Herbert and Harbaugh. An instant turnaround in one year, a scrappy team with a clear identity on offense and a defense that figures out ways to keep games close or at least rallies to make the game contestable.

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I was off on BB coming here cause I didn’t think he’d be a fit
But NOW, we need a no BS HC.

BB won’t allow bad football to happen, right now we need a culture change versus a HC, Ben Johnson would be more of the same. We need a dramatic culture shift , and I think BB could help facilitate that.

Didn't we say the same thing about EVP Coughlin? How'd that work out with the youngin's?

Not the same.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Bill Belichick with a franchise QB: 219-64, with 9 AFC Championships and 6 Super Bowl wins.  

And don't tell me we don't have a franchise QB.  We absolutely do have one.

The fact that Bill managed to get what he got out of Mac Jones was impressive as well. Considering that Mac CLEARLY is NOT a franchise QB. Just based on the last two games alone, he leaves a ton to be desired as a passer. Does not have a big arm at all. 

I would take Bill Belichick in a heartbeat. Again, you're getting the following at the minimum in my opinion, as it's been a common theme throughout his career:

1. Culture and accountability.

2. A top quality defense.

3. A sound offensive line.

4. A running game.

5. An identity.

6. A master of the NFL rulebook. If there's something to exploit? He already knows about it and how to approach it.

Trevor Lawrence with Bill Belichick, at the very minimum, in 2025? Willing to bet you get what the Chargers currently have right now with Herbert and Harbaugh. An instant turnaround in one year, a scrappy team with a clear identity on offense and a defense that figures out ways to keep games close or at least rallies to make the game contestable.

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Didn't we say the same thing about EVP Coughlin? How'd that work out with the youngin's?

Not the same.

7. The biggest cheating Mother [BLEEP] that ever walked on a field.

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Looking to troll? Don't bother, we supply our own.

 

 

The fact that Bill managed to get what he got out of Mac Jones was impressive as well. Considering that Mac CLEARLY is NOT a franchise QB. Just based on the last two games alone, he leaves a ton to be desired as a passer. Does not have a big arm at all. 

I would take Bill Belichick in a heartbeat. Again, you're getting the following at the minimum in my opinion, as it's been a common theme throughout his career:

1. Culture and accountability.

2. A top quality defense.

3. A sound offensive line.

4. A running game.

5. An identity.

6. A master of the NFL rulebook. If there's something to exploit? He already knows about it and how to approach it.

Trevor Lawrence with Bill Belichick, at the very minimum, in 2025? Willing to bet you get what the Chargers currently have right now with Herbert and Harbaugh. An instant turnaround in one year, a scrappy team with a clear identity on offense and a defense that figures out ways to keep games close or at least rallies to make the game contestable.

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Not the same.

7. The biggest cheating Mother [BLEEP] that ever walked on a field.

If you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin!

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Genuine question - would any of you be ok with the front office being wiped out, a new EVP of football ops hires a GM, and retain Doug on the stipulation he has to bring in a new OC? As much as Pederson has been a disaster over the last 1.5 years this will be his first losing season. His biggest flaw is loyalty to his coaches to a fault. Doug would likely resign, but I would give him that option as Philly did the same before canning him. If the DC pick was forced on him I really feel like he was put in a [BLEEP] situation on that side of the ball. I know the man is cooked, just food for thought.

I don't think the team is rallying behind Doug.

I don't see drastic change if we have him fire a guy just to bring in a different guy to run his playbook.

I think Doug has already checked out. It really sucks, something along the way broke him. It's best for everyone if we all move on.

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Belichick is my Dad's age.
No thank you.
Enjoy your retirement, Bill.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.