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Coaching Firings/ Personnel Changes


Just let Jones finish out the season, TL get his shoulder fixed, clean out the FO coaches.
have a good draft and let's go
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(11-18-2024, 06:49 PM)Mowerguy Wrote: Just let Jones finish out the season, TL get his shoulder fixed, clean out the FO  coaches.
have a good draft and let's go

This.
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(11-18-2024, 06:49 PM)Mowerguy Wrote: Just let Jones finish out the season, TL get his shoulder fixed, clean out the FO  coaches.
have a good draft and let's go

This
Best case scenario, Jones balls out next few weems and we can trade him for a 5th or 6th
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(11-18-2024, 08:28 PM)StrayaJag Wrote:
(11-18-2024, 06:49 PM)Mowerguy Wrote: Just let Jones finish out the season, TL get his shoulder fixed, clean out the FO  coaches.
have a good draft and let's go

This
Best case scenario, Jones balls out next few weems and we can trade him for a 5th or 6th

Lol, he's a free agent after this season. We didn't take his option.
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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(11-18-2024, 08:32 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(11-18-2024, 08:28 PM)StrayaJag Wrote: This
Best case scenario, Jones balls out next few weems and we can trade him for a 5th or 6th

Lol, he's a free agent after this season. We didn't take his option.

One of the best moves Baalke ever made.  LOL.  I'm sure he'll be telling Shad what a master-class he performed on that one...
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(11-18-2024, 08:32 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(11-18-2024, 08:28 PM)StrayaJag Wrote: This
Best case scenario, Jones balls out next few weems and we can trade him for a 5th or 6th

Lol, he's a free agent after this season. We didn't take his option.

Even better.
Just tank, baby.
My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.
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(11-18-2024, 08:43 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(11-18-2024, 08:32 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Lol, he's a free agent after this season. We didn't take his option.

Even better.
Just tank, baby.

Khans motto.
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What is Hilarious is hearing the advertisers trying to sell Jaguar tickets.

They have this Video trying to show how tough the Jaguars are and why you should go see them. The 2-9 record and getting blown out 52-6 spits in the face of the adverts.
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(11-18-2024, 08:55 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote:
(11-18-2024, 08:43 PM)mikesez Wrote: Even better.
Just tank, baby.

Khans motto.

That's the best case for leaving the current coaches in place the rest of the way. Get some interim ones they may come in, get all fired up and actually win.
A new broom always sweeps clean.
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I’m in on the tank but if it involves shutting Trevor down then it’s a no go for me. Even though we are awful I would still like to watch the games and it’s very hard to do that with Mac at QB.
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Why are they playing Jones over Beathard?
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(11-19-2024, 06:45 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: Why are they playing Jones over Beathard?

At least beathard has arm talent
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(11-19-2024, 06:45 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: Why are they playing Jones over Beathard?

Because they have to accept the fact that they forked over a 6th RD pick for him and because he's a former top 20 overall draft pick. Politics I guess. Jones is washed. He's clearly a career back-up at this point now. I'll say this though...

It's not like this coaching staff has any clue on how to use the majority of their 53 man roster. They don't find ways to scheme BTJ open. They use minimal to no pre snap motion or movement to help the QB figure out the coverage better. 

The line is still suspect at times, especially in the ground game and the WR room is pretty much depleted now minus Kirk and an overpaid Davis. At this point, they should just stick to twin and triple TE sets and either run the ball or pass it short with an occasional deep shot attempt to BTJ or Washington.

This coaching staff has done nothing to really elevate Lawrence. He's been relatively the same passer since Doug has been here and they've either been on the plus or minus side in the luck department. That's all this team has been since 2022. 

Lucky Ball football team. Doug's the kind of guy that will win $500,000 in Vegas one night and then proceed to piss it all away and end up in the red and underwater with his house up for grabs due to bad habits. He's done the same to Lawrence and everybody else on this roster. The epitome of boom or bust.
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(11-18-2024, 11:48 AM)I am Yoda Wrote:
(11-18-2024, 07:56 AM)JagsFanSince95 Wrote: Genuine question - would any of you be ok with the front office being wiped out, a new EVP of football ops hires a GM, and retain Doug on the stipulation he has to bring in a new OC? As much as Pederson has been a disaster over the last 1.5 years this will be his first losing season. His biggest flaw is loyalty to his coaches to a fault. Doug would likely resign, but I would give him that option as Philly did the same before canning him. If the DC pick was forced on him I really feel like he was put in a [BLEEP] situation on that side of the ball. I know the man is cooked, just food for thought.


No. Doug has lost the team. They played without heart yesterday.


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....which is why we gotta let the regime go now. You don't want quit to infect the team.
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I've had a couple drinks... So take this for what it is...

But we need to hire Mike McCarthy immediately after the Jerry fires him.

He knows how to win in the regular season. He's dealt with divas in the front office and on the field. He's made Dak Prescott look like an OK QB.

I know I've been saying that I don't want any retread HCs. But if we're gonna go with a retread. I want Mike McCarthy. Dude is gonna have a chip on his should, and he's gonna come in guns blazing. Additionally, he'll probably be bringing in all his coaches that are salivating to prove Dallas wrong. This would be the best retread option available. And I'd bet McCarthy would absolutely sign here.
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(11-19-2024, 06:18 PM)carp8dm Wrote: I've had a couple drinks... So take this for what it is...

But we need to hire Mike McCarthy immediately after the Jerry fires him.

He knows how to win in the regular season. He's dealt with divas in the front office and on the field. He's made Dak Prescott look like an OK QB.

I know I've been saying that I don't want any retread HCs. But if we're gonna go with a retread. I want Mike McCarthy. Dude is gonna have a chip on his should, and he's gonna come in guns blazing. Additionally, he'll probably be bringing in all his coaches that are salivating to prove Dallas wrong. This would be the best retread option available. And I'd bet McCarthy would absolutely sign here.

+1. Especially per the revenge factor. Plus, our environment is less toxic than the Cowboys.
"Remember Red, Hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."  - Andy Dufresne, The Shawshank Redemption
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(11-19-2024, 06:23 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote:
(11-19-2024, 06:18 PM)carp8dm Wrote: I've had a couple drinks...  So take this for what it is...

But we need to hire Mike McCarthy immediately after the Jerry fires him.

He knows how to win in the regular season.  He's dealt with divas in the front office and on the field.  He's made Dak Prescott look like an OK QB. 

I know I've been saying that I don't want any retread HCs.  But if we're gonna go with a retread.  I want Mike McCarthy.  Dude is gonna have a chip on his should, and he's gonna come in guns blazing.  Additionally, he'll probably be bringing in all his coaches that are salivating to prove Dallas wrong.  This would be the best retread option available.  And I'd bet McCarthy would absolutely sign here.

+1. Especially per the revenge factor.  Plus, our environment is less toxic than the Cowboys.

It's obvious that we'll probably not land Ben Johnson.  That would be my first pick.  But it just seems like the right move for the Jaguars.  Unless, of course McCarthy is completely burned out from dealing with A-A-Ron and then having to deal with Jerry...

But I think we should give a hard look towards McCarthy.  I bet he'd have some good ideas about a GM to bring in as well.  The dude is a winning HC, in Dallas, for crying out loud.  He could potentially be the best option to get based on our reputation.
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(11-19-2024, 06:30 PM)carp8dm Wrote:
(11-19-2024, 06:23 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: +1. Especially per the revenge factor.  Plus, our environment is less toxic than the Cowboys.

It's obvious that we'll probably not land Ben Johnson.  That would be my first pick.  But it just seems like the right move for the Jaguars.  Unless, of course McCarthy is completely burned out from dealing with A-A-Ron and then having to deal with Jerry...

But I think we should give a hard look towards McCarthy.  I bet he'd have some good ideas about a GM to bring in as well.  The dude is a winning HC, in Dallas, for crying out loud.  He could potentially be the best option to get based on our reputation.

Yep. The sooner Jags fans get over this pipe dream of landing Ben Johnson, the better.
"Remember Red, Hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."  - Andy Dufresne, The Shawshank Redemption
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(11-19-2024, 06:40 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote:
(11-19-2024, 06:30 PM)carp8dm Wrote: It's obvious that we'll probably not land Ben Johnson.  That would be my first pick.  But it just seems like the right move for the Jaguars.  Unless, of course McCarthy is completely burned out from dealing with A-A-Ron and then having to deal with Jerry...

But I think we should give a hard look towards McCarthy.  I bet he'd have some good ideas about a GM to bring in as well.  The dude is a winning HC, in Dallas, for crying out loud.  He could potentially be the best option to get based on our reputation.

Yep. The sooner Jags fans get over this pipe dream of landing Ben Johnson, the better.

I've gotten over it after Monday when we didn't fire anyone.  I had high hopes we could get Ben Johnson, but it's not going to happen.  

No up and coming flavor of the week HC is going to come here.  

But McCarthy...  I could see him wanting to redeem himself.  Maybe I'm wrong.  I usually am.  But of all the available options that are plausible, I think he'd be the best choice right now.
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(11-19-2024, 06:30 PM)carp8dm Wrote:
(11-19-2024, 06:23 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: +1. Especially per the revenge factor.  Plus, our environment is less toxic than the Cowboys.

It's obvious that we'll probably not land Ben Johnson.  That would be my first pick.  But it just seems like the right move for the Jaguars.  Unless, of course McCarthy is completely burned out from dealing with A-A-Ron and then having to deal with Jerry...

But I think we should give a hard look towards McCarthy.  I bet he'd have some good ideas about a GM to bring in as well.  The dude is a winning HC, in Dallas, for crying out loud.  He could potentially be the best option to get based on our reputation.

Absolutely no to McCarthy. His scheme only succeeds when he has a noticeable talent advantage over other teams.

There is no force multiplication of his scheme, and he has no history of reliably developing any position group with low resource investment.

Maybe after Urban, when you needed an adult in the room it would have made sense to stablize the franchise. Much like Ron Rivera did for Washington.

But the franchise needs to aim for much higher.
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