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Trump Guilty


(11-22-2024, 11:20 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: Any updates to this?

Mikesez is still laughable, that's unlikely to need further updates though.
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(This post was last modified: 11-23-2024, 09:24 AM by mikesez. Edited 1 time in total.)

(11-22-2024, 11:45 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: No. The system just unilaterally caved because Trump is President and you can't prosecute a sitting President but you can prosecute a President who left office even though that was never done before because these crimes were so heinous.

Jimmy Carter sold his peanut farm. 
Reagan retired from the actors union.
Bill Clinton closed his law practice.
George W Bush quit oil prospecting.

All the presidents who were involved in lucrative, complicated financial business gave it up to be in politics. Trump did not. 

Even so, his financial crime should have only been misdemeanors. New York should have charged him some fines, and then moved on. 

I wish the other cases, where the crimes were much more serious, had gotten farther. Our justice system is too easy to delay. Hire a lawyer at the right price, and they can come up with a reason to delay proceedings. Even better if you picked the judge, and she makes up her own stupid arguments for your side.

Anyhow, there's nothing to say about this until 2029, if ever. Usually people like Trump have to throw themselves at the mercy of the jury of their peers. Trump had the unique opportunity to throw himself at the mercy of the electoral college, and he won. It's ironic, but any effort to change this outcome will only make things worse. God bless America.
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(11-23-2024, 09:23 AM)mikesez Wrote:
(11-22-2024, 11:45 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: No. The system just unilaterally caved because Trump is President and you can't prosecute a sitting President but you can prosecute a President who left office even though that was never done before because these crimes were so heinous.

Jimmy Carter sold his peanut farm. 
Reagan retired from the actors union.
Bill Clinton closed his law practice.
George W Bush quit oil prospecting.

All the presidents who were involved in lucrative, complicated financial business gave it up to be in politics. Trump did not. 

Even so, his financial crime should have only been misdemeanors. New York should have charged him some fines, and then moved on. 

I wish the other cases, where the crimes were much more serious, had gotten farther. Our justice system is too easy to delay. Hire a lawyer at the right price, and they can come up with a reason to delay proceedings. Even better if you picked the judge, and she makes up her own stupid arguments for your side.

Anyhow, there's nothing to say about this until 2029, if ever. Usually people like Trump have to throw themselves at the mercy of the jury of their peers. Trump had the unique opportunity to throw himself at the mercy of the electoral college, and he won. It's ironic, but any effort to change this outcome will only make things worse. God bless America.

First, Congress would first have to clean up their own act. Second, read the article below paying attention to the last paragraph. I am not a lawyer, but I believe there is a loophole there.

"The president can't have a conflict of interest," Trump recently told The New York Times. "In theory, I can be president of the United States and run my business 100 percent."

And he's absolutely right. According to the 1978 Ethics in Government Act, all high-ranking federal officials are required to disclose their financial holdings and recuse themselves from any government business in which they, their families or close associates have a financial interest. All federal officials, that is, except the president, the vice president, members of Congress and federal judges.

https://people.howstuffworks.com/can-a-u...office.htm
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(11-23-2024, 10:31 AM)Jag149 Wrote:
(11-23-2024, 09:23 AM)mikesez Wrote: Jimmy Carter sold his peanut farm. 
Reagan retired from the actors union.
Bill Clinton closed his law practice.
George W Bush quit oil prospecting.

All the presidents who were involved in lucrative, complicated financial business gave it up to be in politics. Trump did not. 

Even so, his financial crime should have only been misdemeanors. New York should have charged him some fines, and then moved on. 

I wish the other cases, where the crimes were much more serious, had gotten farther. Our justice system is too easy to delay. Hire a lawyer at the right price, and they can come up with a reason to delay proceedings. Even better if you picked the judge, and she makes up her own stupid arguments for your side.

Anyhow, there's nothing to say about this until 2029, if ever. Usually people like Trump have to throw themselves at the mercy of the jury of their peers. Trump had the unique opportunity to throw himself at the mercy of the electoral college, and he won. It's ironic, but any effort to change this outcome will only make things worse. God bless America.

First, Congress would first have to clean up their own act. Second, read the article below paying attention to the last paragraph. I am not a lawyer, but I believe there is a loophole there.

"The president can't have a conflict of interest," Trump recently told The New York Times. "In theory, I can be president of the United States and run my business 100 percent."

And he's absolutely right. According to the 1978 Ethics in Government Act, all high-ranking federal officials are required to disclose their financial holdings and recuse themselves from any government business in which they, their families or close associates have a financial interest. All federal officials, that is, except the president, the vice president, members of Congress and federal judges.

https://people.howstuffworks.com/can-a-u...office.htm

That's not what that means. 
Just because the 1978 ethics and government Act excludes certain people only means that it would be impractical to prosecute them. It means, legally, they don't have a conflict of interest. But just because something's legal doesn't mean it's not wrong.
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(11-23-2024, 11:14 AM)mikesez Wrote:
(11-23-2024, 10:31 AM)Jag149 Wrote: First, Congress would first have to clean up their own act. Second, read the article below paying attention to the last paragraph. I am not a lawyer, but I believe there is a loophole there.

"The president can't have a conflict of interest," Trump recently told The New York Times. "In theory, I can be president of the United States and run my business 100 percent."

And he's absolutely right. According to the 1978 Ethics in Government Act, all high-ranking federal officials are required to disclose their financial holdings and recuse themselves from any government business in which they, their families or close associates have a financial interest. All federal officials, that is, except the president, the vice president, members of Congress and federal judges.

https://people.howstuffworks.com/can-a-u...office.htm

That's not what that means. 
Just because the 1978 ethics and government Act excludes certain people only means that it would be impractical to prosecute them. It means, legally, they don't have a conflict of interest. But just because something's legal doesn't mean it's not wrong.

Sure thing....Wink
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As expected, Jack Smith filed to drop the charges against Trump. Never mind that Smith never had standing to even investigate much less bring charges against Trump. I guess the Lawfare didn't work out for them.
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Trump was only guilty of not falling in line with what the Democrats wanted to do. Nothing else. They all were actually friends before he realized their agenda.
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