No no no … guys who cares? It’s a new regime next year, let’s show pride next season. Let’s get a high draft pick and keep Tlaw healthy for next season. 

We gotta play it smart, forget pride. Let’s get Travis Hunter or a premier DT/LT and call it a win this season.

This upcoming class lacks the star power. Not really a difference in pick 1 or pick 9 this year.

I dissagree, there a few elite prospects in the class and they will be gone by pick 9.  The guy you get and 9 wont be on Hunter or Grahams level and Will Johsnon if healthy. Who do you think that will be there at 9 that will be as good as Hunter?

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Smoke lots of weed, eat well and laugh a lot..

Or we talking about the team?

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I just want a win.

I hope Hines-Allen gets the Jaguars all-time sack record. I’d like to see Walker get back to back double digit sacks. It would be nice to see Thomas get to 1,000 yards as a rookie. Engram has a chance to move into 6th all time in receptions.

Cam Little is having an outstanding rookie season, so I hope that continues.

As a Jaguars fan, the goal is to win, no matter what. If the #1 overall pick is that important, there is always more than 1 way to skin a cat. We always play to win.

That man wishes he was Tony Brackens.

As a fan of the team for 20-odd years, I'll say it.

Who?

(I know who he is, I just remember not one solitary thing about him or his game.)

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No no no … guys who cares? It’s a new regime next year, let’s show pride next season. Let’s get a high draft pick and keep Tlaw healthy for next season. 

We gotta play it smart, forget pride. Let’s get Travis Hunter or a premier DT/LT and call it a win this season.

This upcoming class lacks the star power. Not really a difference in pick 1 or pick 9 this year.

Bingo

Get the early pick to fleece the mess outta someone desperate

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This upcoming class lacks the star power. Not really a difference in pick 1 or pick 9 this year.

I dissagree, there a few elite prospects in the class and they will be gone by pick 9.  The guy you get and 9 wont be on Hunter or Grahams level and Will Johsnon if healthy.  Who do you think that will be there at 9 that will be as good as Hunter?

9 is an arbitrary number I just threw out there.

If you mixed this years class with last years class, I think you get to pick 7 or 8 before any player from this class gets taken. Caleb, Jayden, Maye, MHJ, Nabers, and Alt are all better than every single player in this draft. 

You'll have Sanders going #1 most likely due to a team needing a QB but after that? Hunter may not even be the best CB in the class. The tackles look suspect and possibly moving to guards. No elite pass rushers. McMillan is a very good WR prospect but no where near the big dawgs from last year. This class is looking like the Joeckel draft class.

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I would play Trevor Lawrence. As long as he’s healthy, he needs to practice in live game situations. It will be beneficial for the future. Trust that. There are too many games left where he can be working on being a quarterback to sit him unless he’s injured. I could understand if it was only one game left or two. However, this is way too many games left. He needs reps.

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That man wishes he was Tony Brackens.

As a fan of the team for 20-odd years, I'll say it.

Who?

(I know who he is, I just remember not one solitary thing about him or his game.)

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This upcoming class lacks the star power. Not really a difference in pick 1 or pick 9 this year.

Bingo

Get the early pick to fleece the mess outta someone desperate

You're loss- my statement was half facetious; Tony would take over plays, series, quarters and at times a game the way JHA tries. But Tony did it. This was before the advances made in knee injury surgery and rehabilitation that ultimately cut short his career. The team hasn't replaced him in those 20 odd years, try as they have. Yannick was the closest, imo.

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I dissagree, there a few elite prospects in the class and they will be gone by pick 9.  The guy you get and 9 wont be on Hunter or Grahams level and Will Johsnon if healthy.  Who do you think that will be there at 9 that will be as good as Hunter?

9 is an arbitrary number I just threw out there.

If you mixed this years class with last years class, I think you get to pick 7 or 8 before any player from this class gets taken. Caleb, Jayden, Maye, MHJ, Nabers, and Alt are all better than every single player in this draft. 

You'll have Sanders going #1 most likely due to a team needing a QB but after that? Hunter may not even be the best CB in the class. The tackles look suspect and possibly moving to guards. No elite pass rushers. McMillan is a very good WR prospect but no where near the big dawgs from last year. This class is looking like the Joeckel draft class.

Hunter and Johnson are elite CB prospect.  What other corner do you think is better than Hunter?    I'd say they right there with Stingley and Gardner.  Graham is a elite DT prospect. I'd say your statement would be much more true for last years draft.   I think there will be a much bigger gap between those guys and say the 9th or 10th pick than last year.  Last year you could have gotten guys like Bowers, Mitchell, Verse, Fuaga, DeJean etc.  Who were very close to the guys at the top of last years class.  The gap this year will be much bigger imo. I'd compare this class to the 2022 class with a few elite at the top like when it was Hutchinson, Stingley, and Gardner. This class is a better QB class than that year though

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I would play Trevor Lawrence. As long as he’s healthy, he needs to practice in live game situations. It will be beneficial for the future. Trust that. There are too many games left where he can be working on being a quarterback to sit him unless he’s injured. I could understand if it was only one game left or two. However, this is way too many games left. He needs reps.

He needs reps in an obsolete playbook that will need to be unlearned at season's end?

okie dokie, artichokie.

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9 is an arbitrary number I just threw out there.

If you mixed this years class with last years class, I think you get to pick 7 or 8 before any player from this class gets taken. Caleb, Jayden, Maye, MHJ, Nabers, and Alt are all better than every single player in this draft. 

You'll have Sanders going #1 most likely due to a team needing a QB but after that? Hunter may not even be the best CB in the class. The tackles look suspect and possibly moving to guards. No elite pass rushers. McMillan is a very good WR prospect but no where near the big dawgs from last year. This class is looking like the Joeckel draft class.

Hunter and Johnson are elite CB prospect.  What other corner do you think is better than Hunter?    I'd say they right there with Stingley and Gardner.  Graham is a elite DT prospect. I'd say your statement would be much more true for last years draft.   I think there will be a much bigger gap between those guys and say the 9th or 10th pick than last year.  Last year you could have gotten guys like Bowers, Mitchell, Verse, Fuaga, DeJean etc.  Who were very close to the guys at the top of last years class.  The gap this year will be much bigger imo.  I'd compare this class to the 2022 class with a few elite at the top like when it was Hutchinson, Stingley, and Gardner.  This class is a better QB class than that year though

This class strikes me as a repeat of 2013. I don't see anyone banging down the door to get to the top of the order.

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I would play Trevor Lawrence. As long as he’s healthy, he needs to practice in live game situations. It will be beneficial for the future. Trust that. There are too many games left where he can be working on being a quarterback to sit him unless he’s injured. I could understand if it was only one game left or two. However, this is way too many games left. He needs reps.

He needs reps in an obsolete playbook that will need to be unlearned at season's end?

okie dokie, artichokie.

With all due respect, who cares about the playbook? Reps against nfl talent. That’s how the greats got better. Montana, Brady, or who ever. You don’t get better on the bench.

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I see both sides to the sit him/play him debate with Trevor.

I could go either way with it.

I'm more concerned about getting the 1st year guys out there more so we can try to develop that potential.

I'd like to see Maason Smith getting 30 snaps a game unless he really stinks up the place after a few weeks of giving him work.

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If Trevor's shoulder is 90% or better, they'd have to play him. Anything less than that and I'd go with Jones. As far as getting the number 1 pick, even with Jones I believe they'd beat the Raiders. That would give them the 3rd pick as the Giants aren't winning any more games either. Picking 3rd might actually turn out really well since Ward and Sanders are likely to go 1st and 2nd enabling the Jaguars to still get Hunter, Graham or Banks. Hunter would be my pick. If Lawrence is healthy and plays, I could see them winning 2 or 3 more games dropping them to as low as 6th or 7th pick. In that spot, they'd likely end up with Johnson, Graham or Banks. That could also turn out o.k.

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This isn't the week for the Trevor Question. That answer comes the week after they're eliminated from the playoffs. It might be next week, but as of now if he can play he needs to play. If you're not going to fire Pederson now then you aren't mandating he bench the starter while there's still an outside shot at the post-season.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

I really want to beat Houston next week. I know it's a meaningless game in the big picture for us but really want to get one over them.

The thing I want to see the next 6 games from us is some pride. The schedule is easier and are we that bad team we've been all season or are we going to show up? We could go 6-0 and it won't change my opinion on Baalke or Doug but there are certain players I want to see something from these last games.

No no no … guys who cares? It’s a new regime next year, let’s show pride next season. Let’s get a high draft pick and keep Tlaw healthy for next season. 

We gotta play it smart, forget pride. Let’s get Travis Hunter or a premier DT/LT and call it a win this season.

I get your argument. If we can get a top 3 pick it gives us options. 

I don't like sending the message to the players that they can finish the season the way it's gone so far, this was a team with playoff expectations and letting us take the next 6 games off doesn't sit right with me.

Plus the next game is Houston and we have the T*tans twice. I will not let it be acceptable to roll over to the T*tans. Never [BLEEP] ever.

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Yeah I think a top 3 pick gives us options, and results in Baalke getting canned.

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Yeah I think a top 3 pick gives us options, and results in Baalke getting canned.

A top 3 pick just gives Baalke a chance to pick a guy who will help in 3 years.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Yeah I think a top 3 pick gives us options, and results in Baalke getting canned.

A top 3 pick just gives Baalke a chance to pick a guy who will help in 3 years.

Don’t give me those nightmares!

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Don't worry about draft position when you have your QB already. If he's healthy enough to play and isn't shrugging off recommended surgery, get out there and play. Coming from someone who plays way too much dynasty fantasy football, some of you guys play way too much dynasty fantasy football.

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Don't worry about draft position when you have your QB already.  If he's healthy enough to play and isn't shrugging off recommended surgery, get out there and play.    Coming from someone who plays way too much dynasty fantasy football, some of you guys play way too much dynasty fantasy football.

plus we have extra picks 

I'd work to package the two 4th round picks to move up and pick FIVE players from the first three rounds of the draft

Could be a really solid haul whether we pick 3rd over all or 7th overall after the dust settles in wins/losses

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Purchase the best clown outfit, wig and makeup ... and go to the games to watch this pitiful display of doo-doo-butt football playout for a few more weeks.

That's a great goal for the rest of the season.

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You're Welcome.

I would play Trevor Lawrence. As long as he’s healthy, he needs to practice in live game situations. It will be beneficial for the future. Trust that. There are too many games left where he can be working on being a quarterback to sit him unless he’s injured. I could understand if it was only one game left or two. However, this is way too many games left. He needs reps.

He needs reps in an obsolete playbook that will need to be unlearned at season's end?

okie dokie, artichokie.

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Hunter and Johnson are elite CB prospect.  What other corner do you think is better than Hunter?    I'd say they right there with Stingley and Gardner.  Graham is a elite DT prospect. I'd say your statement would be much more true for last years draft.   I think there will be a much bigger gap between those guys and say the 9th or 10th pick than last year.  Last year you could have gotten guys like Bowers, Mitchell, Verse, Fuaga, DeJean etc.  Who were very close to the guys at the top of last years class.  The gap this year will be much bigger imo.  I'd compare this class to the 2022 class with a few elite at the top like when it was Hutchinson, Stingley, and Gardner.  This class is a better QB class than that year though

This class strikes me as a repeat of 2013. I don't see anyone banging down the door to get to the top of the order.

There are a few QBs in this class.  The 2013 class had no QBs.  Hunter is also a much better prospect than anyone in the 2013 class, nobody in the 2013 class was close to the prospect Hunter is.

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