It’s very clear you’re not going to understand why this is a poor decision for the organization moving forward, and what this signals. Now you’re sitting here saying Baalke didn’t even construct the contract lmao. Some people will die defending stupid.

Its very clear you dont understand the importance of protctiong the franchise QB.  Baalke has stated multiple time he doesnt do in season extensions.   So if it was Baalke that extended Little its because Khan told his [BLEEP] to extend Little now to protect his franchise QB that he just gave a huge contract to.

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The franchise tag on a LT is 21 mil.  We just singned Little at 26 mil guaranteed at 15 mil per.  Hes not even in the top 25 for highest paid tackles.  A good signing

https://frontofficesports.com/the-25-hig...e-tackles/

Oh okay, Khan is now making the football decisions. Got it. LMAO.

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https://twitter.com/gus_logue/status/186...915L-t18Xg

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https://twitter.com/gus_logue/status/186...915L-t18Xg

Yeah I mean, it's pretty obvious (well I thought it was), to see this is hail mary attempt to save his [BLEEP]. Trade Cam, resign the guy you drafted, report back to Khan how wonderful of a job you're doing.

This is why Baalke should of been fired weeks ago. He's making spur of the moment LONG TERM decisions, that shouldn't be his to make.

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https://twitter.com/gus_logue/status/186...915L-t18Xg

Yeah I mean, it's pretty obvious (well I thought it was), to see this is hail mary attempt to save his [BLEEP]. Trade Cam, resign the guy you drafted, report back to Khan how wonderful of a job you're doing.

This is why Baalke should of been fired weeks ago. He's making spur of the moment LONG TERM decisions, that shouldn't be his to make.

I agree in principle, I have no issue with the individual contract. Any GM should be trying to get Little back here for those numbers, it's a perfect fine deal.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Sounds to me like Shad is giving a big middle finger to the fans with what this symbolizes . This is the first move I will acknowledge that has keeping Baalke into next year all over it. 

I sure wish the dans would give the jaguars brass a huge middle finger right back … clown masks and paper bags as well as cancelling season tickets. 

Part of me hopes this team gets its [BLEEP] kicked the rest of the way through just so it produces the inevitable conflict of fans vs administration. But I know that won’t happen.

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I like the signing. It's reasonable for a starting LT that has shown improvement this season. Keeps the Jags from having to reach for one in the draft. Just gotta hope that Baalke is gone after this season, because if not, then 2025 will be another wasted season. Not sure if I could watch next year if Baalke is here next year. I've been a fan since 1995, but damn, at some point you have to give the fans the slightest bit of hope that the team is heading in the right direction.

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Sounds to me like Shad is giving a big middle finger to the fans with what this symbolizes . This is the first move I will acknowledge that has keeping Baalke into next year all over it. 

I sure wish the dans would give the jaguars brass a huge middle finger right back … clown masks and paper bags as well as cancelling season tickets. 

Part of me hopes this team gets its [BLEEP] kicked the rest of the way through just so it produces the inevitable conflict of fans vs administration. But I know that won’t happen.

I think you all are assuming that Shad is even involved with any of this. He probably found out about this contract when Tony pointed it out on Twitter a few hours ago.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

This is a good deal. Little isn't great but the deal also isn't that much money.

It does make you wonder why they kept Robinson for so long etc. From that p.o.v. I agree with those that think this is a defensive Baalke signing.

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I like the signing.  It's reasonable for a starting LT that has shown improvement this season.  Keeps the Jags from having to reach for one in the draft.  Just gotta hope that Baalke is gone after this season, because if not, then 2025 will be another wasted season.  Not sure if I could watch next year if Baalke is here next year.  I've been a fan since 1995, but damn, at some point you have to give the fans the slightest bit of hope that the team is heading in the right direction.

Yea, I agree with all of this. It was a reasonable deal and if they had waited until the end of this season and Little was playing great it would have cost the team much more money.

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https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/...915L-t18Xg

Newton had it first but this is just easier to see without clicking on the link.

Love this. He should have been the LT 2 years ago.

However, I wonder what this means for Baalke….

I'm happy with this. We keep a LT who has been playing good since Cam was traded. Played great during the playoff run 2 years ago. This should have happened a year ago. Better late than never I suppose.

Just need to fix C and RG in the offseason.

Edit: Aside from a late game pressure, Little had a great game.

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Hes our best offensive lineman imo.

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So with $26 mill guaranteed. That is what ?

2025 $13 mill, Full guaranteeded.
2026 $15 mill, Basically all guaranteed
2027 $17 mill, not guaranteed.

It's basically a 2 year deal around $28-32 million, and depending on how much is split into a signing bonus maybe 2-6 dead cap in year 3 if they decide to move on. Even if he is average but doesn't fit the scheme/system for a new OC/HC, that is easily a tradeable contract in 2026.

But that is my main worry. The OL has been such a major issue because the players strengths, the unit's cohesion, and scheme/system don't seem to fit. They don't maximize each other. The Jags are guaranteed to be keeping Harrison, Cleveland, and Morse next year, so this means there is now less ability for any new HC/OC to mold the scheme to his players or vice versa.

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Him and Harrison basically made Hunter and Anderson invisible today. One of the top pass rushing duos in the league and they shut em down.

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Our highest rated olineman and was the best lineman when we made our playoff run 2 years ago and only 25 years old. Also not even in the top 25 highest paid tackles

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Our highest rated olineman and was the best lineman when we made our playoff run 2 years ago and only 25 years old.  Also not even in the top 25 highest paid tackles

My question would be is he one of the 25 best off tackles in the NFL, or just our best offensive lineman. I honestly don't know so I'm asking. Because the Jags have a history of paying top dollar for good but not great players.

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Our highest rated olineman and was the best lineman when we made our playoff run 2 years ago and only 25 years old.  Also not even in the top 25 highest paid tackles

My question would be is he one of the 25 best off tackles in the NFL, or just our best offensive lineman. I honestly don't know so I'm asking. Because the Jags have a history of paying top dollar for good but not great players.

IN this case Little is being paid in the middle of the pack, Lean Searcy called it "back up money" even, so I think it's fine if he's even a slightly better CamRob. I think he'll be much better the next two years, but we aren't going into the next offseason having to worry about either tackle spot and that's a good thing IMO. We can use top draft capital to move down and collect three or four second and third round talents to help the interior of the O-line line and the defense where we really need help.

A line of Little - Cleveland - Morse - New Guy - Harrison next year in camp would be fine if we have a new center in town to eventually replace Morse and the new right guard is a mauler. Then we can add rush and cover guys to the defense.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Our highest rated olineman and was the best lineman when we made our playoff run 2 years ago and only 25 years old.  Also not even in the top 25 highest paid tackles

My question would be is he one of the 25 best off tackles in the NFL, or just our best offensive lineman. I honestly don't know so I'm asking. Because the Jags have a history of paying top dollar for good but not great players.

He's not even being paid a top 25 tackles.  

https://frontofficesports.com/the-25-hig...e-tackles/

I don't watch every snap from every tackle but he's better than a few guys on that list.  He's looked good ever since Cam has been traded and the signing makes it where we don't have to reach for a tackle.  It's less likely we don't take a tackle early now but  the contract makes it where we won't have to reach for one.  We can now go true BPA, we could still draft a lineman if one is at the top of our board but now we won't be forced too.

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My question would be is he one of the 25 best off tackles in the NFL, or just our best offensive lineman. I honestly don't know so I'm asking. Because the Jags have a history of paying top dollar for good but not great players.

IN this case Little is being paid in the middle of the pack, Lean Searcy called it "back up money" even, so I think it's fine if he's even a slightly better CamRob. I think he'll be much better the next two years, but we aren't going into the next offseason having to worry about either tackle spot and that's a good thing IMO. We can use top draft capital to move down and collect three or four second and third round talents to help the interior of the O-line line and the defense where we really need help.

A line of Little - Cleveland - Morse - New Guy - Harrison next year in camp would be fine if we have a new center in town to eventually replace Morse and the new right guard is a mauler. Then we can add rush and cover guys to the defense.

Wow.  I don't even know where to start.

Morse is OK, but his run blocking is aweful, and he's not good at picking up, or even recognizing blitzes.  Unless you think that our terrible play calling that and offensive game plan is too predictable (Which I've been saying for 2 years now), there's no way the Center and, Cleveland, and "New Guy" are going to do anything better.  You're just calling for us to run back the O-Line with replacing Sherff.  

This whole thing relies on Lawrence being protected by the Linemen.  Little and Harrison look to be getting better.  But there needs to be upgrades all over the interior.  I don't trust Baalke to fix it.  But you just basically gave a Baalke analysis.  "Oh we're good, we just need to hope to hit at RG, and maybe get a some guy to eventually replace Morse."  The entire interior of the O-Line needs to be upgraded.  That should be the emphasis of this off season.  YOU HAVE TO PROTECT THE QG.  You have to also be able to run block in the middle.  

We do none of those things from the inside of this O-Line.

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IN this case Little is being paid in the middle of the pack, Lean Searcy called it "back up money" even, so I think it's fine if he's even a slightly better CamRob. I think he'll be much better the next two years, but we aren't going into the next offseason having to worry about either tackle spot and that's a good thing IMO. We can use top draft capital to move down and collect three or four second and third round talents to help the interior of the O-line line and the defense where we really need help.

A line of Little - Cleveland - Morse - New Guy - Harrison next year in camp would be fine if we have a new center in town to eventually replace Morse and the new right guard is a mauler. Then we can add rush and cover guys to the defense.

Wow.  I don't even know where to start.

Morse is OK, but his run blocking is aweful, and he's not good at picking up, or even recognizing blitzes.  Unless you think that our terrible play calling that and offensive game plan is too predictable (Which I've been saying for 2 years now), there's no way the Center and, Cleveland, and "New Guy" are going to do anything better.  You're just calling for us to run back the O-Line with replacing Sherff.  

This whole thing relies on Lawrence being protected by the Linemen.  Little and Harrison look to be getting better.  But there needs to be upgrades all over the interior.  I don't trust Baalke to fix it.  But you just basically gave a Baalke analysis.  "Oh we're good, we just need to hope to hit at RG, and maybe get a some guy to eventually replace Morse."  The entire interior of the O-Line needs to be upgraded.  That should be the emphasis of this off season.  YOU HAVE TO PROTECT THE QG.  You have to also be able to run block in the middle.  

We do none of those things from the inside of this O-Line.

You really need to look at that little "if" there. Morse is in the second year of a two year deal and likely declining, so, since we didn't get JPJ or Frazier this year we need to bring in the long term replacement. Scherff is the 3rd lowest graded run blocking guard in the League. Little and Harrison are the tackles and Cleveland isn't going anywhere. 

So yeah, Skippy, I just told you the plan. And no, it's not a Baalke Analysis, it's the simple facts of the cap, roster, and opportunity. And to REALLY get you going, it's likely that Tugboat just moves into the spot and they don't invest serious capital into right guard either. They carry Pillow Fort or draft a center and Javon Foster is the utility guy playing RT and the Guard sports with a Hance'CVL type as the last guy on the roster. Call for whatever you want, it has no bearing on what they actually do.

Edit: And as for me, I was calling for Little and Tugboat to be on the field all season, so yeah, players not plays is still the issue.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Wow.  I don't even know where to start.

Morse is OK, but his run blocking is aweful, and he's not good at picking up, or even recognizing blitzes.  Unless you think that our terrible play calling that and offensive game plan is too predictable (Which I've been saying for 2 years now), there's no way the Center and, Cleveland, and "New Guy" are going to do anything better.  You're just calling for us to run back the O-Line with replacing Sherff.  

This whole thing relies on Lawrence being protected by the Linemen.  Little and Harrison look to be getting better.  But there needs to be upgrades all over the interior.  I don't trust Baalke to fix it.  But you just basically gave a Baalke analysis.  "Oh we're good, we just need to hope to hit at RG, and maybe get a some guy to eventually replace Morse."  The entire interior of the O-Line needs to be upgraded.  That should be the emphasis of this off season.  YOU HAVE TO PROTECT THE QG.  You have to also be able to run block in the middle.  

We do none of those things from the inside of this O-Line.

You really need to look at that little "if" there. Morse is in the second year of a two year deal and likely declining, so, since we didn't get JPJ or Frazier this year we need to bring in the long term replacement. Scherff is the 3rd lowest graded run blocking guard in the League. Little and Harrison are the tackles and Cleveland isn't going anywhere. 

So yeah, Skippy, I just told you the plan. And no, it's not a Baalke Analysis, it's the simple facts of the cap, roster, and opportunity. And to REALLY get you going, it's likely that Tugboat just moves into the spot and they don't invest serious capital into right guard either. They carry Pillow Fort or draft a center and Javon Foster is the utility guy playing RT and the Guard sports with a Hance'CVL type as the last guy on the roster. Call for whatever you want, it has no bearing on what they actually do.

What's a Skippy?  I'm a Carp.

You've basically just accepted that the Baalke plan is just gonna have to do.  Coming from a guy that has been insanely critical of our current GM.  You're just accepting that the status quo is just gonna have to do.  

We should not resign ourselves to this ineptitude.  Though I guess we should all just embrace the inevitable.  I figured you'd be one that would be the most vocal about a rebuild of the interior lines (Both offensive and defensive).

We have money tied to some of our O-Line, but that doesn't mean we can't make moves to correct the problems we have.  Other teams turn these types of things around.  The reason we never do is because we never have the sense of urgency to fix things.  Trevor's health over the last 2 years should make it crystal clear that the priority to to fully upgrade the interior O-Line.

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