That's a False Choice, he could also be a Dishonest Hypocrite as well.

Doesn't calling him full of [BLEEP] imply he's a dishonest hypocrite? Either way, the cowards's silence gives the answer


I find it odd timing he starts posting and then the cross dresser finds his way back.

Easy way to prove that we're 2 different people (And I'm using that term very loosely about TDoss) is to have the board administrator look up our respective ISP addresses. Unless whatever the hell he/she/it/they/them is in central Maryland where I'm at..... well......

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There's a lot of willful ignorance going on here. If you don't know what the heck you're talking about you should just say nothing. Spouting off stuff just to get a rise out of people makes only you look stupid, not the rest of us.

Tell us who doesn't know what they're talking about and correct what they got wrong.
Otherwise you should just say nothing.
Spouting off just to get a rise out of people, well, it's provocative and confusing at the same time.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

That's a False Choice, he could also be a Dishonest Hypocrite as well.

Doesn't calling him full of [BLEEP] imply he's a dishonest hypocrite? Either way, the cowards's silence gives the answer


I find it odd timing he starts posting and then the cross dresser finds his way back.

Not really, I think it's brave to be a dishonest hypocrite. A coward would never have the cahones to act that way.

And he's not The Drifter. Dossy was suspended last week, Drifter wasn't. You can tell by Dossy's ranting today that he was very frustrated by the lack of attention while he was gone. He's ranting his brains out in a feeble attempt to get his jollies tonight.

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There's a lot of willful ignorance going on here. If you don't know what the heck you're talking about you should just say nothing. Spouting off stuff just to get a rise out of people makes only you look stupid, not the rest of us.

Tell us who doesn't know what they're talking about and correct what they got wrong.
Otherwise you should just say nothing.
Spouting off just to get a rise out of people, well, it's provocative and confusing at the same time.

It's hard because we read stuff that you and Dossy post and have to try to type around all the laughing at you.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

It is crazy watching Gun Nuts be fine with people needing a driving license, register their car and even the have to take test to drive, but that just about anybody can stroll in and buy a gun, no license, no registration, no test. It is amazingly hypocritical and the counter argument will be, "golly gee though, huk huk huk... it is a right". No it isn't. It is just what a few guys wrote down 250 years ago. Speech is a Right. Religion (believing what you want) is a Right. Reporting on things and the government is a right. Owning a weapon designed to kill people is not a Right.

If you really believe you can walk into a store and walk out with a gun, or that the gun you buy won't in fact be registered then you're an ignoramus.

 

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Uh, what? Per usual MAGA morons living under a rock.


https://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-b...un-2017-10

In the United States, not all firearms need to be registered. While federal law requires the registration of certain firearms, such as machine guns and silencers, the majority of firearms do not need to be registered at the federal level.

https://thegunzone.com/do-all-firearms-n...egistered/

There is no universal, national gun registry or federal license required to own a gun, and the vast majority of states don’t require registration or licensing.

https://www.nraila.org/get-the-facts/reg...licensing/

LOL   Per usual you dont know [BLEEP] your talking about.   

Our Rights actually exists outside of the Constitution, the document merely delineates that the federal government may not oppress them.

My comment inferred that.

That means that the right to self defense and ownership of the means to do so are in fact....rights, regardless of what any government might say. They may repress but they do not revoke.

Where did I say otherwise?

In short, you wrote 3 lines of complete and utter [BLEEP]

I give you an F- for knowledge and a zero for effort.

It is an analogy that you failed to address... your grading means nothing.

So, tell me "flsportsgod" who's the ignoramus now?

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...an inconvenient truth

The list above shows guns are far from our largest problems. To add to this a couple ideas.

According to FBI stats 80-85% of the gun deaths are by convicted felons who should not have a gun. By enforcing this law 80-85% of the issue will be solved. When solving a problem take out the biggest slice first right?

Next, in the 20's we had the temperance movement. That led to the rise of organized crime and was repealed as the government failed to withhold alcohol from the public.  Next came the war on drugs. We all know how that came out. It suffered the same fate as prohibition. What we should learn is the government cannot keep law breaker (or felons evidently) from breaking the law. What will be accomplished by removing guns? I can see a couple results. 

Honest law abiding people will no longer have guns, they will be defenseless against the criminals who will have them. 
The largest portion of the problem will not be addressed - 85% (they already have a law for this, no new law is required)
Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state and total local control.

The writers of the Constitution got it right.

There is no end of unreasonable excuses that can be generated to misrepresent firearm violence.
2A is only a problem because it has been interpreted to advance unreasonable and essentially unrestrained civilian firearm possession. Similar societies with less firearm prevalence have less firearm death and injury.


Why can't the illegal guns be stopped? They are in most countries...

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The list above shows guns are far from our largest problems. To add to this a couple ideas.

According to FBI stats 80-85% of the gun deaths are by convicted felons who should not have a gun. By enforcing this law 80-85% of the issue will be solved. When solving a problem take out the biggest slice first right?

Next, in the 20's we had the temperance movement. That led to the rise of organized crime and was repealed as the government failed to withhold alcohol from the public.  Next came the war on drugs. We all know how that came out. It suffered the same fate as prohibition. What we should learn is the government cannot keep law breaker (or felons evidently) from breaking the law. What will be accomplished by removing guns? I can see a couple results. 

Honest law abiding people will no longer have guns, they will be defenseless against the criminals who will have them. 
The largest portion of the problem will not be addressed - 85% (they already have a law for this, no new law is required)
Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state and total local control.

The writers of the Constitution got it right.

There is no end of unreasonable excuses that can be generated to misrepresent firearm violence.
2A is only a problem because it has been interpreted to advance unreasonable and essentially unrestrained civilian firearm possession. Similar societies with less firearm prevalence have less firearm death and injury.


Why can't the illegal guns be stopped? They are in most countries...

"Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun" Mao Zedong Leader of the communist revolution in China. I will not let MY COUNTRY turn into a Communist country like China and allow it to be run by a murderous dictator....... And the "Illegal Guns" in a lot of countries are in the hands of people trying to overthrow a dictator...........

"You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass" Japanese Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto....... Private gun ownership is helping to keep our adversaries at bay.......

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There's a lot of willful ignorance going on here. If you don't know what the heck you're talking about you should just say nothing. Spouting off stuff just to get a rise out of people makes only you look stupid, not the rest of us.

Care to challenge it? Your other MAGA buddies are doing a poor job.

Wanna give it a shot or are you just going to throw personal attacks?

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If you really believe you can walk into a store and walk out with a gun, or that the gun you buy won't in fact be registered then you're an ignoramus.

 

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Uh, what? Per usual MAGA morons living under a rock.


https://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-b...un-2017-10

In the United States, not all firearms need to be registered. While federal law requires the registration of certain firearms, such as machine guns and silencers, the majority of firearms do not need to be registered at the federal level.

https://thegunzone.com/do-all-firearms-n...egistered/

There is no universal, national gun registry or federal license required to own a gun, and the vast majority of states don’t require registration or licensing.

https://www.nraila.org/get-the-facts/reg...licensing/

LOL   Per usual you dont know [BLEEP] your talking about.   

Our Rights actually exists outside of the Constitution, the document merely delineates that the federal government may not oppress them.

My comment inferred that.

That means that the right to self defense and ownership of the means to do so are in fact....rights, regardless of what any government might say. They may repress but they do not revoke.

Where did I say otherwise?

In short, you wrote 3 lines of complete and utter [BLEEP]

I give you an F- for knowledge and a zero for effort.

It is an analogy that you failed to address... your grading means nothing.

So, tell me "flsportsgod" who's the ignoramus now?

You are, the first link is 7 years out of date. In Florida, the only state that matters, it's a 3 day wait.

The second, a federal registry, is immaterial, the State keeps a record of the transaction, as I said.

The rest is just you trying to be sly.

So in short, your the ignoramus who came to battle of wit unarmed. And there's no O, probably should ask your wife how that feels.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

TDoss, if you want to live in a place were only the police have guns, I know just the place....... It's called PRISON........ Go rob a bank and you'll be living gun free, and have 3 hots and a cot for a very long time.......... (Just don't bend over in the shower)

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There's a lot of willful ignorance going on here. If you don't know what the heck you're talking about you should just say nothing. Spouting off stuff just to get a rise out of people makes only you look stupid, not the rest of us.

Care to challenge it? Your other MAGA buddies are doing a poor job.

Wanna give it a shot or are you just going to throw personal attacks?

Referring to your original post, you're apparently unaware of mandatory background checks and waiting periods before purchasing a handgun.  Beyond the background check, what "test" would you recommend prior to purchase?  Also, why do you label everyone who supports the 2nd to be a gun nut?  I have a friend who supports it, and he doesn't even own a gun.  It's like assuming everyone who supports abortion, is okay with late-term abortion.  

P.S.   "just what a few guys wrote down 250 years ago" is the foundation of our democracy and generally considered somewhat sacred.  You'll need to get the Supreme Court in agreement with you before you start banning guns.  Speaking of bans, what's your well-considered long-range plan?  There's currently a "ban" on drugs, but it hasn't really deterred the flow into the country.  What will make guns any different?

P.P.S.  What's wrong with making America great again?  Shouldn't that be the goal of every citizen?

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When you get into the endzone, act like you've been there before.

It is crazy watching Gun Nuts be fine with people needing a driving license, register their car and even the have to take test to drive, but that just about anybody can stroll in and buy a gun, no license, no registration, no test. It is amazingly hypocritical and the counter argument will be, "golly gee though, huk huk huk... it is a right". No it isn't. It is just what a few guys wrote down 250 years ago. Speech is a Right. Religion (believing what you want) is a Right. Reporting on things and the government is a right. Owning a weapon designed to kill people is not a Right.

We really need a TDS thread just for your stupid rants.

Regarding the first comment in bold, that statement is just not true.  There are laws and rules in place that limits the purchase of a firearm.

Regarding your second ridiculous comment in bold.  Firearms are not "designed to kill people".

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

It is crazy watching Gun Nuts be fine with people needing a driving license, register their car and even the have to take test to drive, but that just about anybody can stroll in and buy a gun, no license, no registration, no test. It is amazingly hypocritical and the counter argument will be, "golly gee though, huk huk huk... it is a right". No it isn't. It is just what a few guys wrote down 250 years ago. Speech is a Right. Religion (believing what you want) is a Right. Reporting on things and the government is a right. Owning a weapon designed to kill people is not a Right.

We really need a TDS thread just for your stupid rants.

Regarding the first comment in bold, that statement is just not true.  There are laws and rules in place that limits the purchase of a firearm.

You must know about Gun Shows. So why the blatant lie?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_show...ted_States

So much for your "Waiting periods" and "background checks".

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We really need a TDS thread just for your stupid rants.

Regarding the first comment in bold, that statement is just not true.  There are laws and rules in place that limits the purchase of a firearm.

You must know about Gun Shows. So why the blatant lie?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_show...ted_States

So much for your "Waiting periods" and "background checks".

Why do you care? Your kind plan on shooting up more schools?

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We really need a TDS thread just for your stupid rants.

Regarding the first comment in bold, that statement is just not true.  There are laws and rules in place that limits the purchase of a firearm.

You must know about Gun Shows. So why the blatant lie?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_show...ted_States

So much for your "Waiting periods" and "background checks".

Oh look, the debunked gun show loophole fraud. This guy is 20 years behind in his lib-blab. Stale.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

We really need a TDS thread just for your stupid rants.

Regarding the first comment in bold, that statement is just not true.  There are laws and rules in place that limits the purchase of a firearm.

You must know about Gun Shows. So why the blatant lie?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_show...ted_States

So much for your "Waiting periods" and "background checks".

It is nice you have this ill informed opinion. The gun issue is a very emotional one for people. The politicians currently have no motivation to resole it like a few other issues. This is because they can use it to raise a lot of money. Let's not be politicians here.

Now people forget to look at the stats and history. Both say gun control does not work the way you think. The site below is from government records and has quite a bit of information. A few notable items.

Fact: Guns prevent an estimated 2.5 million crimes a year or 6,849 every day. 21 Most often, the gun is never fired and no blood (including the criminal’s) is shed.
Fact: Every year 400,000  life-threatening violent crimes are prevented using firearms.

Fact: 60% of convicted felons admitted that they avoided committing crimes when they knew the victim was armed. 40% of convicted felons admitted that they avoided committing crimes when they thought the victim might be armed. 23
Fact: Felons report that they avoid entering houses where people are at home because they fear being shot. 24
Fact: 59% of the burglaries in Britain, which has tough gun control laws, are “hot burglaries” 25 which are burglaries committed while the home is occupied by the owner/renter. By contrast, the U.S., with more lenient gun control laws, has a “hot burglary” rate of only 13%. 26
Fact: Washington DC has essentially banned gun ownership since 1976 27 and has a murder rate of 56.9 per 100,000. Across the river in Arlington, Virginia, gun ownership is less restricted. There, the murder rate is just 1.6 per 100,000, less than three percent of the Washington, DC rate.
Fact: In 1982, Kennesaw, GA passed a law requiring heads of households to keep at least one firearm in the house. The residential burglary rate dropped 89% the following year. 30
Fact: A survey of felons revealed the following: 31

• 74% of felons agreed that, “One reason burglars avoid houses when people are at home is that they fear being shot during the crime.”
  
• 57% of felons polled agreed, “Criminals are more worried about meeting an armed victim than they are about running into the police.”
  

Website
https://www.gunfacts.info/gun-policy-inf...-and-guns/
Website bias rating. note while definitely right accuracy is rated High credibility with no failed fact checks the last 5 years.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-truth-about-guns/

Now real life can be different read this article to see the effect of laws over time.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/op-ed...gK0h_D_BwE

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

TDOSS.......

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I don't think we need a gun registry or gun licensing in this country. I do think that it should be illegal to sell someone a gun without doing background checks on them.  Things will slip through the cracks, and guns will show up that we have no idea who sold to whom, but that's just how it is sometimes.

I do think there should be a tax on ammo. If you want to shoot it at the range you bought it at, no tax.  Take it home, that should be taxed. Maybe a 50% tax.

We should also think about restricting more gun types.  Currently there are restrictions on full auto and on shotgun barrel length. I think we need a few more restrictions, maybe based on reload speed and gun mass.

Reload speed?  Strange, most Lefties focus on magazine capacity.  What's your plan, wheel guns only for private citizens?  

Gun mass?  I can appreciate the composition argument and concern over the potential to circumvent metal detectors, but mass?

Just an FYI for you, there already is a tax on all guns & ammo.

https://www.guns.com/news/2024/03/25/gun...on-efforts

That's a 10% tax meant to raise revenue for conservation.
I'm talking a larger tax, just on ammo, that leaves the range, to maybe deter stockpiling and mass shootings.  It's the Chris Rock idea.

You can't possibly (and I ask this with all sincerity) believe a 40% increase in the tax on ammo will deter mass shootings?  1, 2, 3 victims down.  Plenty of targets still out there, but that's enough ammo for today.  I'll come back after the next paycheck?

How many rounds must one hold to be "stockpiling"?  I gotta count my ammo and see if I qualify! 

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When you get into the endzone, act like you've been there before.

I don't think we need a gun registry or gun licensing in this country. I do think that it should be illegal to sell someone a gun without doing background checks on them.  Things will slip through the cracks, and guns will show up that we have no idea who sold to whom, but that's just how it is sometimes.

I do think there should be a tax on ammo. If you want to shoot it at the range you bought it at, no tax.  Take it home, that should be taxed. Maybe a 50% tax.

We should also think about restricting more gun types.  Currently there are restrictions on full auto and on shotgun barrel length. I think we need a few more restrictions, maybe based on reload speed and gun mass.

Reload speed?  Strange, most Lefties focus on magazine capacity.  What's your plan, wheel guns only for private citizens?  

Gun mass?  I can appreciate the composition argument and concern over the potential to circumvent metal detectors, but mass?

That's a 10% tax meant to raise revenue for conservation.
I'm talking a larger tax, just on ammo, that leaves the range, to maybe deter stockpiling and mass shootings.  It's the Chris Rock idea.

You can't possibly (and I ask this with all sincerity) believe a 40% increase in the tax on ammo will deter mass shootings?  1, 2, 3 victims down.  Plenty of targets still out there, but that's enough ammo for today.  I'll come back after the next paycheck?

How many rounds must one hold to be "stockpiling"?  I gotta count my ammo and see if I qualify! 

LOL.  As of matter of fact I just received a case of 1000 rounds of .223 for my AR this last week... and that's just one of the firearms that I own.

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

Uh, what? Per usual MAGA morons living under a rock.


https://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-b...un-2017-10


https://thegunzone.com/do-all-firearms-n...egistered/


https://www.nraila.org/get-the-facts/reg...licensing/

LOL   Per usual you dont know [BLEEP] your talking about.   


My comment inferred that.


Where did I say otherwise?


It is an analogy that you failed to address... your grading means nothing.

So, tell me "flsportsgod" who's the ignoramus now?

You are, the first link is 7 years out of date. In Florida, the only state that matters, it's a 3 day wait.

The second, a federal registry, is immaterial, the State keeps a record of the transaction, as I said.

The rest is just you trying to be sly.

So in short, your the ignoramus who came to battle of wit unarmed. And there's no O, probably should ask your wife how that feels.

I've posted 3 legit article that dissapproves your dishonesty and all you did was move the goalpost. "FLODIDA the only state that matters" 

Are you ok? 

It's so shocking you arent aware of such a thing. 

Here's another one, keep deflecting.

https://rhlawfl.com/criminal-defense/gun...s-florida/

Florida does not require a permit to buy a firearm, nor is there a permit that exempts anyone from the background check requirement.Jul 1, 2023

Or this article too old for you? Because that one was seven years ago? 

Just admit that your either a) a liar. or b) uninformed.

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