How do you walk 3,000 miles through Mexico and show up at the border with a brand-new iPhone.

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How do you walk 3,000 miles through Mexico and show up at the border with a brand-new iPhone.

The Real question is how can we get them another 1700 miles north as quickly as possible?

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Why should I do your work?????? You're the one stating it as a fact so..... It's up to you to prove it..... Especially when cities like New York and Chicago specifically earmarked monies for illegals to provide them services....... More than what some Vets were getting........

If a homeless veteran was turned away from housing assistance that illegal immigrants were getting, that would be newsworthy.
I'm saying it didn't happen.
The news usually doesn't make articles about things that didn't happen.  I won't be able to find an article about a nuclear bomb going off in Jacksonville, just like you won't be able to find an article about a homeless veteran being turned away in New York City.

Then you make another claim.  Money was specifically earmarked? Prove it.

If you think veteran's rate above illegal immigrants to the progressives you have lost your damn mind. My now ex-husband and I are both veterans and when living in Riverside we were friends with a group of folks who were liberals. They didn't care that we were vets as long as we didn't talk about it but if it came up in conversation somehow you would think we had murdered their dog. 

And this was back in the 2007-2010 timeframe when there wasn't as much hate and discontent stirred up by social media and MSM as there is now. Those folks had no love for veterans in general. 

On a slow news day the fate of homeless vets might rank above illegal immigrants, depending on what the story is.

Also, a simple search turned this up. Actually read the article before commenting. Federal money has absolutely been specifically marked for illegal immigrants. 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/polic...mmigrants/

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If a homeless veteran was turned away from housing assistance that illegal immigrants were getting, that would be newsworthy.
I'm saying it didn't happen.
The news usually doesn't make articles about things that didn't happen.  I won't be able to find an article about a nuclear bomb going off in Jacksonville, just like you won't be able to find an article about a homeless veteran being turned away in New York City.

Then you make another claim.  Money was specifically earmarked? Prove it.

If you think veteran's rate above illegal immigrants to the progressives you have lost your damn mind. My now ex-husband and I are both veterans and when living in Riverside we were friends with a group of folks who were liberals. They didn't care that we were vets as long as we didn't talk about it but if it came up in conversation somehow you would think we had murdered their dog. 

And this was back in the 2007-2010 timeframe when there wasn't as much hate and discontent stirred up by social media and MSM as there is now. Those folks had no love for veterans in general. 

On a slow news day the fate of homeless vets might rank above illegal immigrants, depending on what the story is.

Those people are whack. I remember when a young guy who worked for me in the Navy told me how him and a group of other squids were in a bar scoping out the college girls. They struck up a conversation with some and when they found out the guys were in the service, one started calling them baby killers. The guy laughed about it when he told me. He said he had no idea how to handle it and they just walked away. I told him that was the best way to deal with it. As I told him, those people are intellectually weak. There's no sense in engaging them in debate, especially when they're immersed in an atmosphere which constantly promotes that vacuousness.

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If a homeless veteran was turned away from housing assistance that illegal immigrants were getting, that would be newsworthy.
I'm saying it didn't happen.
The news usually doesn't make articles about things that didn't happen.  I won't be able to find an article about a nuclear bomb going off in Jacksonville, just like you won't be able to find an article about a homeless veteran being turned away in New York City.

Then you make another claim.  Money was specifically earmarked? Prove it.

If you think veteran's rate above illegal immigrants to the progressives you have lost your damn mind. My now ex-husband and I are both veterans and when living in Riverside we were friends with a group of folks who were liberals. They didn't care that we were vets as long as we didn't talk about it but if it came up in conversation somehow you would think we had murdered their dog. 

And this was back in the 2007-2010 timeframe when there wasn't as much hate and discontent stirred up by social media and MSM as there is now. Those folks had no love for veterans in general. 

On a slow news day the fate of homeless vets might rank above illegal immigrants, depending on what the story is.

Also, a simple search turned this up. Actually read the article before commenting. Federal money has absolutely been specifically marked for illegal immigrants. 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/polic...mmigrants/

She just proved it. What do you say now?

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

If you think veteran's rate above illegal immigrants to the progressives you have lost your damn mind. My now ex-husband and I are both veterans and when living in Riverside we were friends with a group of folks who were liberals. They didn't care that we were vets as long as we didn't talk about it but if it came up in conversation somehow you would think we had murdered their dog. 

And this was back in the 2007-2010 timeframe when there wasn't as much hate and discontent stirred up by social media and MSM as there is now. Those folks had no love for veterans in general. 

On a slow news day the fate of homeless vets might rank above illegal immigrants, depending on what the story is.

Also, a simple search turned this up. Actually read the article before commenting. Federal money has absolutely been specifically marked for illegal immigrants. 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/polic...mmigrants/

She just proved it. What do you say now?

Just wait.. The contrarian loophole is on its way..

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If a homeless veteran was turned away from housing assistance that illegal immigrants were getting, that would be newsworthy.
I'm saying it didn't happen.
The news usually doesn't make articles about things that didn't happen.  I won't be able to find an article about a nuclear bomb going off in Jacksonville, just like you won't be able to find an article about a homeless veteran being turned away in New York City.

Then you make another claim.  Money was specifically earmarked? Prove it.

If you think veteran's rate above illegal immigrants to the progressives you have lost your damn mind. My now ex-husband and I are both veterans and when living in Riverside we were friends with a group of folks who were liberals. They didn't care that we were vets as long as we didn't talk about it but if it came up in conversation somehow you would think we had murdered their dog. 

And this was back in the 2007-2010 timeframe when there wasn't as much hate and discontent stirred up by social media and MSM as there is now. Those folks had no love for veterans in general. 

On a slow news day the fate of homeless vets might rank above illegal immigrants, depending on what the story is.

Also, a simple search turned this up. Actually read the article before commenting. Federal money has absolutely been specifically marked for illegal immigrants. 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/polic...mmigrants/

I know that many progressives have a bad attitude towards vets and that's a damn shame.  I've also been at bars just shooting the breeze, guys complaining about work, and a vet who's maybe had one too many comes out of nowhere with "that's not hard and I'll kick your [BLEEP] right now if you think that's hard compared to what I did." So some of what you see may be just hostility to the military, and some of it may be they had a bad experience with a vet in the past.  Doesn't make it right of course.

Anyhow.  Thank you for that link, it's a good article. 

Federal money was given to states on an emergency basis with few strings attached.  This was not normal and is not going on now.  Some blue states gave some of that money to illegals, as you might expect.

So, in an emergency, in a blue state, you found an exception to the general principle that illegal immigrants don't receive federal dollars.  The general principle stands.  And New York City was providing housing to all, both illegals and vets.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

She just proved it. What do you say now?

Just wait.. The contrarian loophole is on its way..

You were correct +1 for you -1 for you know who.  lol

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

If you think veteran's rate above illegal immigrants to the progressives you have lost your damn mind. My now ex-husband and I are both veterans and when living in Riverside we were friends with a group of folks who were liberals. They didn't care that we were vets as long as we didn't talk about it but if it came up in conversation somehow you would think we had murdered their dog. 

And this was back in the 2007-2010 timeframe when there wasn't as much hate and discontent stirred up by social media and MSM as there is now. Those folks had no love for veterans in general. 

On a slow news day the fate of homeless vets might rank above illegal immigrants, depending on what the story is.

Also, a simple search turned this up. Actually read the article before commenting. Federal money has absolutely been specifically marked for illegal immigrants. 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/polic...mmigrants/

I know that many progressives have a bad attitude towards vets and that's a damn shame.  I've also been at bars just shooting the breeze, guys complaining about work, and a vet who's maybe had one too many comes out of nowhere with "that's not hard and I'll kick your [BLEEP] right now if you think that's hard compared to what I did." So some of what you see may be just hostility to the military, and some of it may be they had a bad experience with a vet in the past.  Doesn't make it right of course.

Anyhow.  Thank you for that link, it's a good article. 

Federal money was given to states on an emergency basis with few strings attached.  This was not normal and is not going on now.  Some blue states gave some of that money to illegals, as you might expect.

So, in an emergency, in a blue state, you found an exception to the general principle that illegal immigrants don't receive federal dollars.  The general principle stands.  And New York City was providing housing to all, both illegals and vets.

As told the bolded part, that's a no. Liberals in general do not care for the military overall, anyone who serves or has served. For some it's a pacifist thing and I personally know two of these types, and I understand and respect that, and there may be the occasional person who has had a fallout with a service member or vet, but for the most part liberals have absolutely no care for it. At all.

As for the homeless vets issue. Have you ever had to qualify for government housing? I have. It was a long time ago now but the average low income person has to jump through more hoops you can imagine just to qualify and that doesn't mean you're put in a house or apartment, AKA, 'the projects'. It simply means you qualify and can be put on a waiting list. 

NYC has some veteran specific funds for housing that is not federal or state funded, it comes from donations. Federal or state funds would be Section 8 which is not vet specific, it's low income specific. Some of this funding comes with some strings attached. Have they been evicted through court order? No? They don't qualify. Are they addicts and in a program? No? They don't qualify. Are they disabled through the VA? No? They don't qualify. 

This is just to qualify for one type of funding but they're all very similar, and again, it does not guarantee a place to live.

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Just wait.. The contrarian loophole is on its way..

You were correct +1 for you -1 for you know who.  lol

The problem is he speaks about things he knows nothing about. It's one thing to learn about a subject because you've read about it and quite another thing to know about it because you've lived it. Perspective through life experience goes a long way in having an accurate view of things. 

Mike's problem is he learns a lot of things he talks about but has not experienced much of it to actually know what he's actually talking about. 

Learning and knowing are not the same thing.

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I know that many progressives have a bad attitude towards vets and that's a damn shame.  I've also been at bars just shooting the breeze, guys complaining about work, and a vet who's maybe had one too many comes out of nowhere with "that's not hard and I'll kick your [BLEEP] right now if you think that's hard compared to what I did." So some of what you see may be just hostility to the military, and some of it may be they had a bad experience with a vet in the past.  Doesn't make it right of course.

Anyhow.  Thank you for that link, it's a good article. 

Federal money was given to states on an emergency basis with few strings attached.  This was not normal and is not going on now.  Some blue states gave some of that money to illegals, as you might expect.

So, in an emergency, in a blue state, you found an exception to the general principle that illegal immigrants don't receive federal dollars.  The general principle stands.  And New York City was providing housing to all, both illegals and vets.

As told the bolded part, that's a no. Liberals in general do not care for the military overall, anyone who serves or has served. For some it's a pacifist thing and I personally know two of these types, and I understand and respect that, and there may be the occasional person who has had a fallout with a service member or vet, but for the most part liberals have absolutely no care for it. At all.

As for the homeless vets issue. Have you ever had to qualify for government housing? I have. It was a long time ago now but the average low income person has to jump through more hoops you can imagine just to qualify and that doesn't mean you're put in a house or apartment, AKA, 'the projects'. It simply means you qualify and can be put on a waiting list. 

NYC has some veteran specific funds for housing that is not federal or state funded, it comes from donations. Federal or state funds would be Section 8 which is not vet specific, it's low income specific. Some of this funding comes with some strings attached. Have they been evicted through court order? No? They don't qualify. Are they addicts and in a program? No? They don't qualify. Are they disabled through the VA? No? They don't qualify. 

This is just to qualify for one type of funding but they're all very similar, and again, it does not guarantee a place to live.

I've never had to qualify for government housing, I always had other choices, but a couple of times in my younger, "just getting started" life there were apartments I applied to that turned me away because I hadn't already gotten admitted to government assistance.  "That's OK, I'll pay you the whole thing." "No, sorry, the complex only accepts people with government assistance." Just scraping the surface of the system was very difficult for me, and I'm sure it only gets more complicated.

NYC also has a city funded program for homeless shelters that will buy hotel rooms when there is overflow.  That's the part that people found outrageous out in right wing media.  

I've volunteered at homeless shelters, I used to do it once a year before I had kids.  If there is space, they take you in, and they don't care if you're illegal or whatever, and they'll initially provide for you with privately donated money. But they demand to see your ID and with that they will start calling to see what you qualify for and what you don't qualify for.  If you qualify for something, they will collect it in your name while you're staying there.  The whole point is they want you off of their dole and onto the government's dole if at all possible.  It's kind of ugly, and a turn off for many, but the private homeless shelters have become the place that sorts out who qualifies for what convoluted government program.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

You were correct +1 for you -1 for you know who.  lol

The problem is he speaks about things he knows nothing about. It's one thing to learn about a subject because you've read about it and quite another thing to know about it because you've lived it. Perspective through life experience goes a long way in having an accurate view of things. 

Mike's problem is he learns a lot of things he talks about but has not experienced much of it to actually know what he's actually talking about. 

Learning and knowing are not the same thing.

Typical RW poster: Democrats waste our money on bums! Public housing is a waste of money!

Me: It's not great but it's better than letting them live on the street!

Americus: You've never had to live in section 8 housing, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Me: But I don't think you're a bum and I don't call people bums for living in government housing.  He does!

Americus: You don't know.  Learning from reading and knowing from life are not the same thing.  

Me: Sure, but typical RW poster doesn't know what it's like to need government assistance either. And he wants to cut it!

Americus: Yeah but I think he's cool and I just don't like you.

Further proof that, no matter what their situation in life, no matter how much they have in common, Gen Xers will just never think Millennials are cool.  

It's OK. I'm not here to be liked.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

The problem is he speaks about things he knows nothing about. It's one thing to learn about a subject because you've read about it and quite another thing to know about it because you've lived it. Perspective through life experience goes a long way in having an accurate view of things. 

Mike's problem is he learns a lot of things he talks about but has not experienced much of it to actually know what he's actually talking about. 

Learning and knowing are not the same thing.

Typical RW poster: Democrats waste our money on bums! Public housing is a waste of money!

Me: It's not great but it's better than letting them live on the street!

Americus: You've never had to live in section 8 housing, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Me: But I don't think you're a bum and I don't call people bums for living in government housing.  He does!

Americus: You don't know.  Learning from reading and knowing from life are not the same thing.  

Me: Sure, but typical RW poster doesn't know what it's like to need government assistance either. And he wants to cut it!

Americus: Yeah but I think he's cool and I just don't like you.

Further proof that, no matter what their situation in life, no matter how much they have in common, Gen Xers will just never think Millennials are cool.  

It's OK. I'm not here to be liked.

You're a Millennial? The way you whine I assumed you're Gen Z.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Further proof that, no matter what their situation in life, no matter how much they have in common, Gen Xers will just never think Millennials are cool.  

It's OK. I'm not here to be liked.

You're a Millennial? The way you whine I assumed you're Gen Z.

The false things that you've assumed to be true could fill a library.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

The problem is he speaks about things he knows nothing about. It's one thing to learn about a subject because you've read about it and quite another thing to know about it because you've lived it. Perspective through life experience goes a long way in having an accurate view of things. 

Mike's problem is he learns a lot of things he talks about but has not experienced much of it to actually know what he's actually talking about. 

Learning and knowing are not the same thing.

Typical RW poster: Democrats waste our money on bums! Public housing is a waste of money!

Me: It's not great but it's better than letting them live on the street!

Americus: You've never had to live in section 8 housing, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Me: But I don't think you're a bum and I don't call people bums for living in government housing.  He does!

Americus: You don't know.  Learning from reading and knowing from life are not the same thing.  

Me: Sure, but typical RW poster doesn't know what it's like to need government assistance either. And he wants to cut it!

Americus: Yeah but I think he's cool and I just don't like you.

Further proof that, no matter what their situation in life, no matter how much they have in common, Gen Xers will just never think Millennials are cool.  

It's OK. I'm not here to be liked.

I must say you are very good at it.

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

The problem is he speaks about things he knows nothing about. It's one thing to learn about a subject because you've read about it and quite another thing to know about it because you've lived it. Perspective through life experience goes a long way in having an accurate view of things. 

Mike's problem is he learns a lot of things he talks about but has not experienced much of it to actually know what he's actually talking about. 

Learning and knowing are not the same thing.

Typical RW poster: Democrats waste our money on bums! Public housing is a waste of money!

Me: It's not great but it's better than letting them live on the street!

Americus: You've never had to live in section 8 housing, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Me: But I don't think you're a bum and I don't call people bums for living in government housing.  He does!

Americus: You don't know.  Learning from reading and knowing from life are not the same thing.  

Me: Sure, but typical RW poster doesn't know what it's like to need government assistance either. And he wants to cut it!

Americus: Yeah but I think he's cool and I just don't like you.

Further proof that, no matter what their situation in life, no matter how much they have in common, Gen Xers will just never think Millennials are cool.  

It's OK. I'm not here to be liked.

What in the actual hell are you talking about?

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Further proof that, no matter what their situation in life, no matter how much they have in common, Gen Xers will just never think Millennials are cool.  

It's OK. I'm not here to be liked.

What in the actual hell are you talking about?

Himself obviously. It's the only reason he's here.

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You're a Millennial? The way you whine I assumed you're Gen Z.

The false things that you've assumed to be true could fill a library.

It's mot my fault you act like a 16 year old girl.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

I think once Trump gets down to the last of the illegals, it would be a nice touch for him to exclaim “UNO!”

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Further proof that, no matter what their situation in life, no matter how much they have in common, Gen Xers will just never think Millennials are cool.  

It's OK. I'm not here to be liked.

What in the actual hell are you talking about?

Have you ever chided Winger or Drifter or FSG for not understanding what it's like to be poor?

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

What in the actual hell are you talking about?

Have you ever chided Winger or Drifter or FSG for not understanding what it's like to be poor?

Hey dip [BLEEP], why do you assume any of us don't KNOW what it's like?

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato