I don't think he's lost his mind. I just think he's overly ambitious and roughly half of what he says or wants to achieve will come to fruition. 

Taking over the Panama Canal? I don't see anything crazy about that in particular that would make you think he's lost his mind. We used to have a period of joint control over it with the Panamanian government up until 1999. My biggest guess as to why he would target that area though is to directly avoid China backdooring it's way into that territory potentially. There was an article or two in 2022 talking about this very relationship. China has a lot of control there.

Does China Own the Panama Canal? No, but Still Concerning

Annex Canada? Farfetched for sure. Doubt that happens. Not a fan of some of their beliefs and policies up there though. Don't they condone or have passed into law for people to willfully off themselves with assisted suicide? Just seems like a really sick thing to advocate and stand behind in my opinion.

Buying Greenland from Denmark? Not a bad idea if they want to sell it. Wouldn't hurt to ask. They have one of the highest shares of renewable energy in the world at 70%, mostly coming from hydropower. It's believed it also has one of the world's largest remaining oil resources. Wouldn't be a bad land grab. Also, the idea of Manifest Destiny is refreshing. 

While we have been expanding via proxy wars and US tax dollars to fund conflicts? China has invested in South America and Russia has invested in Africa. We're barely hanging on by a thread as it stands now as the world's global superpower (we're probably already lost at this point to be fair). Getting into this footrace now while we still can within this decade is not a bad idea overall.

You're debating global strategy with people who actively want the USA to lose it's solo superpower status or naive enough to believe that other countries just want to be our equals and bear us no ill will in becoming so. I think the Chinese threat in the Western Hemisphere from Mexico south is substantial and I have no issues with the US exerting some pressure that direction. I, you, and most non-TDS sufferers know that the Canada thing was a joke. The Greenland thing is out of left field but I'm always in favor of the USA absorbing more territory because I'm an actual patriot and want to see our country continue to lead the world.

Ooh, That's a bingo

Ones has to simply step off the golf course and into the downtown area of damn near any city in America to see this; specifically a homeless shelter, "tent city"or drug rehab center. One way to find the soldiers and the taxes to fight and fund the war is to annex a border territory.

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Yeah, Mike. That’s it. 

I'm not making it up.
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-pa...ng-2005079
Maybe Panama is making it up, or maybe it's just a coincidence.  Or maybe Trump thinks US foreign policy is a tool he gets to use for his own personalselfish reasons. That would be strange though. Nobody's ever accused him of that before.

I know you're not. It's just a stupid take.

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I'm a patriot too, but I think soft power should be enough for us to prevent Chinese influence from dominating in this area.  Force should not be required.  The treaty already says that the US military may come assist if any other military threatens the canal.

It's interesting how both DOOF and you went right to "he's gonna start a war" when no one said these acquisitions would require war, 

Here's your chance to win an argument for once in these threads.

Please be specific on how he would manage to get the canal back without a war? Something that we havent ever owned but only controlled for ten years.

Go ahead and tell me, or show to your MAGA buddies on here that you have no idea of this issue.

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Since the election, Trump has expressed a desire to take over the Panama Canal, annex Canada, and buy Greenland from Denmark.  

My question for you is, has Trump lost his mind?

Buying Greenland from Denmark? Not a bad idea if they want to sell it. Wouldn't hurt to ask. They have one of the highest shares of renewable energy in the world at 70%, mostly coming from hydropower. It's believed it also has one of the world's largest remaining oil resources. Wouldn't be a bad land grab. Also, the idea of Manifest Destiny is refreshing. 

Please show where Denmark has ever even HINTED at selling or trading Greenland?

This is a Trump fantasy, like re-taking the Panama Canal, making Canada the "51st state" (as is the most multi-cultural NATION twice the size of the US could be a lowly 'state'.) The US has absolutely NO CLAIM to anything above the 49th, except Alaska and that you bought with cash and weapons.

Americans go ape [BLEEP] hearing Spanish. How are you going to swallow an entire sub-continent with three Official languages and about 19 dialects?

Like a short little German racist before him, Trump has delusions of being an emperor.

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Buying Greenland from Denmark? Not a bad idea if they want to sell it. Wouldn't hurt to ask. They have one of the highest shares of renewable energy in the world at 70%, mostly coming from hydropower. It's believed it also has one of the world's largest remaining oil resources. Wouldn't be a bad land grab. Also, the idea of Manifest Destiny is refreshing. 

Please show where Denmark has ever even HINTED at selling or trading Greenland?

This is a Trump fantasy, like re-taking the Panama Canal, making Canada the "51st state" (as is the most multi-cultural NATION twice the size of the US could be a lowly 'state'.) The US has absolutely NO CLAIM to anything above the 49th, except Alaska and that you bought with cash and weapons.

Americans go ape [BLEEP] hearing Spanish. How are you going to swallow an entire sub-continent with three Official languages and about 19 dialects?

Like a short little German racist before him, Trump has delusions of being an emperor.

I didn't. The Real Marty cited that or suggested that was a possibility with Denmark. Hence as to why I said, "Not a bad idea IF they want to sell it". Keyword there playboy, IF.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

You're debating global strategy with people who actively want the USA to lose it's solo superpower status or naive enough to believe that other countries just want to be our equals and bear us no ill will in becoming so. I think the Chinese threat in the Western Hemisphere from Mexico south is substantial and I have no issues with the US exerting some pressure that direction. I, you, and most non-TDS sufferers know that the Canada thing was a joke. The Greenland thing is out of left field but I'm always in favor of the USA absorbing more territory because I'm an actual patriot and want to see our country continue to lead the world.

Ooh, That's a bingo

Ones has to simply step off the golf course and into the downtown area of damn near any city in America to see this; specifically a homeless shelter, "tent city"or drug rehab center. One way to find the soldiers and the taxes to fight and fund the war is to annex a border territory.

What war?
Usually conscripts from recently annexed territories do not fight very well. You can go back and ask Hitler and Napoleon if you don't believe me.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Please show where Denmark has ever even HINTED at selling or trading Greenland?

This is a Trump fantasy, like re-taking the Panama Canal, making Canada the "51st state" (as is the most multi-cultural NATION twice the size of the US could be a lowly 'state'.) The US has absolutely NO CLAIM to anything above the 49th, except Alaska and that you bought with cash and weapons.

Americans go ape [BLEEP] hearing Spanish. How are you going to swallow an entire sub-continent with three Official languages and about 19 dialects?

Like a short little German racist before him, Trump has delusions of being an emperor.

I didn't. The Real Marty cited that or suggested that was a possibility with Denmark. Hence as to why I said, "Not a bad idea IF they want to sell it". Keyword there playboy, IF.

No, I didn't.  And no, Denmark has stated several times that there is absolutely no way they will sell Greenland.  

It just makes us look stupid for our President to say he wants to buy Greenland, or take back the Panama Canal, or make Canada the 51st state.  It makes me wonder if Trump's admiration for Putin is making him want to emulate him by taking territory from another country.

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I didn't. The Real Marty cited that or suggested that was a possibility with Denmark. Hence as to why I said, "Not a bad idea IF they want to sell it". Keyword there playboy, IF.

No, I didn't.  And no, Denmark has stated several times that there is absolutely no way they will sell Greenland.  

It just makes us look stupid for our President to say he wants to buy Greenland, or take back the Panama Canal, or make Canada the 51st state.  It makes me wonder if Trump's admiration for Putin is making him want to emulate him by taking territory from another country.

No it doesn't.. No matter what Trump does or says, he'll always look stupid to his haters.. Nobody cares anymore what you guys think of him. We voted him in, we gave him a mandate and if you don't like it, tough [BLEEP], buttercup..

Enjoy your aneurysms..

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I'm not making it up.
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-pa...ng-2005079
Maybe Panama is making it up, or maybe it's just a coincidence.  Or maybe Trump thinks US foreign policy is a tool he gets to use for his own personalselfish reasons. That would be strange though. Nobody's ever accused him of that before.

I know you're not. It's just a stupid take.

Why?

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No, I didn't.  And no, Denmark has stated several times that there is absolutely no way they will sell Greenland.  

It just makes us look stupid for our President to say he wants to buy Greenland, or take back the Panama Canal, or make Canada the 51st state.  It makes me wonder if Trump's admiration for Putin is making him want to emulate him by taking territory from another country.

No it doesn't.. No matter what Trump does or says, he'll always look stupid to his haters.. Nobody cares anymore what you guys think of him. We voted him in, we gave him a mandate and if you don't like it, tough [BLEEP], buttercup..

Enjoy your aneurysms..

Hey dorgo, The Marshall Plan rebuilt Europe is that ours too?

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So we have a troll for President? Great to hear.

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An advocate for Amerikan Arrogance.

Trump is already doing one of the things I voted for.. 

Trying to give stupid people aneurysms..

Very few people are having aneurysms.

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I know you're not. It's just a stupid take.

Why?

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No it doesn't.. No matter what Trump does or says, he'll always look stupid to his haters.. Nobody cares anymore what you guys think of him. We voted him in, we gave him a mandate and if you don't like it, tough [BLEEP], buttercup..

Enjoy your aneurysms..

Hey dorgo, The Marshall Plan rebuilt Europe is that ours too?

My original post goes for you as well.. 

This you and Marty taking down the MAGAts?

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Why?

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Hey dorgo, The Marshall Plan rebuilt Europe is that ours too?

My original post goes for you as well.. 

This you and Marty taking down the MAGAts?

What's your reasonings for posting on the Politicial threads? I have yet to see a decent argument from you on any relevant politicial take. If you do, all your takes are uninformed like your very first post of this thread.

So why do you talk so much and know so little? Aren't you not embarrased that something so basic could go over your little Red Propoganda Hat?

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My original post goes for you as well.. 

This you and Marty taking down the MAGAts?

What's your reasonings for posting on the Politicial threads? I have yet to see a decent argument from you on any relevant politicial take. If you do, all your takes are uninformed like your very first post of this thread.

So why do you talk so much and know so little? Aren't you not embarrased that something so basic could go over your little Red Propoganda Hat?

Because I choose not to argue with you and your ideals.. They're old, outdated, ridiculous and you're not worth my time.. I'd much rather call you a few names and move on to the next thread.. That's all you're worth.

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What's your reasonings for posting on the Politicial threads? I have yet to see a decent argument from you on any relevant politicial take. If you do, all your takes are uninformed like your very first post of this thread.

So why do you talk so much and know so little? Aren't you not embarrased that something so basic could go over your little Red Propoganda Hat?

Because I choose not to argue with you and your ideals.. They're old, outdated, ridiculous and you're not worth my time.. I'd much rather call you a few names and move on to the next thread.. That's all you're worth.

Youre terrible at doing just that as well.

Maybe take another MAGA under your wing and they can try to show you how to own liberals

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What's your reasonings for posting on the Politicial threads? I have yet to see a decent argument from you on any relevant politicial take. If you do, all your takes are uninformed like your very first post of this thread.

So why do you talk so much and know so little? Aren't you not embarrased that something so basic could go over your little Red Propoganda Hat?

Because I choose not to argue with you and your ideals.. They're old, outdated, ridiculous and you're not worth my time.. I'd much rather call you a few names and move on to the next thread.. That's all you're worth.

A productive asset is as valuable as the things it produces.  If all you produce is name calling, then in a way, that's all you're worth.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

I don't think he's lost his mind. I just think he's overly ambitious and roughly half of what he says or wants to achieve will come to fruition. 

Taking over the Panama Canal? I don't see anything crazy about that in particular that would make you think he's lost his mind. We used to have a period of joint control over it with the Panamanian government up until 1999. My biggest guess as to why he would target that area though is to directly avoid China backdooring it's way into that territory potentially. There was an article or two in 2022 talking about this very relationship. China has a lot of control there.

Does China Own the Panama Canal? No, but Still Concerning

Annex Canada? Farfetched for sure. Doubt that happens. Not a fan of some of their beliefs and policies up there though. Don't they condone or have passed into law for people to willfully off themselves with assisted suicide? Just seems like a really sick thing to advocate and stand behind in my opinion.

Buying Greenland from Denmark? Not a bad idea if they want to sell it. Wouldn't hurt to ask. They have one of the highest shares of renewable energy in the world at 70%, mostly coming from hydropower. It's believed it also has one of the world's largest remaining oil resources. Wouldn't be a bad land grab. Also, the idea of Manifest Destiny is refreshing. 

While we have been expanding via proxy wars and US tax dollars to fund conflicts? China has invested in South America and Russia has invested in Africa. We're barely hanging on by a thread as it stands now as the world's global superpower (we're probably already lost at this point to be fair). Getting into this footrace now while we still can within this decade is not a bad idea overall.

You're debating global strategy with people who actively want the USA to lose it's solo superpower status or naive enough to believe that other countries just want to be our equals and bear us no ill will in becoming so. I think the Chinese threat in the Western Hemisphere from Mexico south is substantial and I have no issues with the US exerting some pressure that direction. I, you, and most non-TDS sufferers know that the Canada thing was a joke. The Greenland thing is out of left field but I'm always in favor of the USA absorbing more territory because I'm an actual patriot and want to see our country continue to lead the world.

For instance losing our superpower status by surrendering Ukraine to Russia and helping Russia build its power back up?

If the US is going to invade Panama to steal the canal, it would benefit Panama to have China station troops and even nuclear weapons in Panama to protect them, wouldn’t it?

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It's interesting how both DOOF and you went right to "he's gonna start a war" when no one said these acquisitions would require war, 

Here's your chance to win an argument for once in these threads.

Please be specific on how he would manage to get the canal back without a war? Something that we havent ever owned but only controlled for ten years.

Go ahead and tell me, or show to your MAGA buddies on here that you have no idea of this issue.

I don't argue with you, I just laugh at you. So, back to the Canal. 1. Re-open the Neutrality Treaty for negotiation. 2. Find and offer the strategic and practical incentives to convince the Mulino Administration to consider the offers. 3. Negotiate to achieve the ultimate end goal of all this, lower the toll costs charged to the USA for passage by 30% to bring them back to the 2019-era rates. Again, no one is saying that we're going to war, the idea, as always is to get a better deal for the USA. In the case of the canal, we hold treaty rights to keep it open, now Trump wants to address the costs we pay.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Because I choose not to argue with you and your ideals.. They're old, outdated, ridiculous and you're not worth my time.. I'd much rather call you a few names and move on to the next thread.. That's all you're worth.

A productive asset is as valuable as the things it produces.  If all you produce is name calling, then in a way, that's all you're worth.

And you're more than welcome to think that..

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"We built it, we paid for it, It's ours"..

-RR

Even kindergarteners understand the principle of no take-backs

Yeah it's sort of like, if you gift something to someone else, is it still yours?

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You're debating global strategy with people who actively want the USA to lose it's solo superpower status or naive enough to believe that other countries just want to be our equals and bear us no ill will in becoming so. I think the Chinese threat in the Western Hemisphere from Mexico south is substantial and I have no issues with the US exerting some pressure that direction. I, you, and most non-TDS sufferers know that the Canada thing was a joke. The Greenland thing is out of left field but I'm always in favor of the USA absorbing more territory because I'm an actual patriot and want to see our country continue to lead the world.

For instance losing our superpower status by surrendering Ukraine to Russia and helping Russia build its power back up?

If the US is going to invade Panama to steal the canal, it would benefit Panama to have China station troops and even nuclear weapons in Panama to protect them, wouldn’t it?

Frankly, I'm quite content to let Ukraine and Russia kill each other. We've seen that Russia is relatively toothless and Ukraine, like you, is merely a useful idiot for corrupt US politicians to launder their stolen US tax dollars. I'd rather have Russia control Ukraine than keep Ukraine as the Federal Laundromat.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Here's your chance to win an argument for once in these threads.

Please be specific on how he would manage to get the canal back without a war? Something that we havent ever owned but only controlled for ten years.

Go ahead and tell me, or show to your MAGA buddies on here that you have no idea of this issue.

So, back to the Canal. 1. Re-open the Neutrality Treaty for negotiation. 2. Find and offer the strategic and practical incentives to convince the Mulino Administration to consider the offers. 3. Negotiate to achieve the ultimate end goal of all this, lower the toll costs charged to the USA for passage by 30% to bring them back to the 2019-era rates. Again, no one is saying that we're going to war, the idea, as always is to get a better deal for the USA. In the case of the canal, we hold treaty rights to keep it open, now Trump wants to address the costs we pay.

Panama says “no”. What’s happens then?

We have no say in the costs we pay. They have a monopoly on the canal. It’s their property. If we don’t like the costs, we are free to build a canal across America.

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