The win was because of BTJ going off again.  Jordan Jefferson getting the tipped ball at the line to cause the pick, Maason Smith getting another sack, Jarian Jones looking good again etc. When your young players improve, thats what leads to wins.  Ill take that any day over being the first team in NFL history picking 1st overall 3 times in 5 years. You want to continue to add to the record of suckage lol.  If we lose we get a higher draft pick, cool. If we win our young guys are likely improving like we seen today and can still get a stud in the draft.

I stated that I wanted our rookies and young players to play well but still lose a close game because of players who will no longer be on the team next year.  If mistakes are made by players who won't be on our roster next year, it doesn't hurt us in 2025.  Heck, 1 or 2 plays today could have been the difference between winning and losing.  Put some backups in the game today for a few snaps and we get the #1 or #2 draft pick next year which increases our chances of winning in 2025.  Some people are so short sighted.

Lol, the number 1 or number 2 pick doesn't increase our chances of winning next year.  Im not buying it.  BTJ those rookies also want win, hence doing everything thing they can to look good and make some plays. I've never seen someone whine and cry about beating the Titans especially when our rookies are the biggest reason why and we are still picking in the top 5 lol.

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If Hunter is gone I am going all in on McMillan. Having another big bodied WR playing opposite of BTJ would open up the playbook even more.

They need to address some holes in March. There's good interior offensive lineman to be had from this class as deep as RD4 early on.

I think you have to come out of this draft with more star power early. We need another WR to benefit from the attention BTJ will be getting moving forward. We need another CB and we need a Safety.

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If Hunter is gone I am going all in on McMillan. Having another big bodied WR playing opposite of BTJ would open up the playbook even more.

They need to address some holes in March. There's good interior offensive lineman to be had from this class as deep as RD4 early on.

I think you have to come out of this draft with more star power early. We need another WR to benefit from the attention BTJ will be getting moving forward. We need another CB and we need a Safety.

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I like McMillan but I just think top 5 is to high.  Cant wait for the combine so some of these guys i have very close will seperate.  Cant wait for the college playoffs as well to watch guys like Jeanty, Ratledge, Watts. etc.

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If our new GM sees Jeanty as a Saquon Barkley type level prospect at RB. He might be at the top of my board. The playoffs and the combine will be huge for Jeanty.

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I stated that I wanted our rookies and young players to play well but still lose a close game because of players who will no longer be on the team next year.  If mistakes are made by players who won't be on our roster next year, it doesn't hurt us in 2025.  Heck, 1 or 2 plays today could have been the difference between winning and losing.  Put some backups in the game today for a few snaps and we get the #1 or #2 draft pick next year which increases our chances of winning in 2025.  Some people are so short sighted.

Lol, the number 1 or number 2 pick doesn't increase our chances of winning next year.  Im not buying it.  BTJ those rookies also want win, hence doing everything thing they can to look good and make some plays. I've never seen someone whine and cry about beating the Titans especially when our rookies are the biggest reason why and we are still picking in the top 5 lol.

No one is whining or crying.  I just find it amazing that you can't admit that having the #1 or #2 pick is better than having than the #5 pick.  You not only have your choice of players, but it could also potentially be a huge opportunity in terms of trading down to a team desperate for a quarterback.  

Also, it's not just about the first round pick.  The win yesterday drops our second round pick by 8 spots from the 33rd pick to the 41st pick.  That's a lot of quality players coming off the board.  We'll also be picking later in the 3rd round, 4th round, 5th round, 6th round and 7th round.  

We also handed a division rival the opportunity to draft their quarterback of the future by allowing the Titans to move up to the #2 spot.  Most believe there are two good quarterbacks in this draft.  They now can draft one without any trading up.  If the Patriots keep their pick and go Travis Hunter, the Titans will have their top choice of any quarterback in the draft.  If I was a Titans fan, I would be thanking the Jaguars.

We also need to consider the tougher schedule that we now get in 2025 as a result of yesterday's game.  Instead of playing two games against teams who average 3.5 wins, we now have to play two teams who average 10 wins.  If we lose even one of those games, you can put aside the draft picks, this reason alone makes yesterday's win not worth it.

Some would also argue that the extra win gives Khan an excuse to potentially not to fire Baalke and/or Pederson.  I don't know if I buy that, but it's possible.

I'm not saying yesterday's game is the end of the world, but a loss yesterday would have improved our chances of winning in 2025.

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The mock simulator is use aint that good but i did it a few times and I actually got Johnson or Graham consistently at that 5th pick

Will wait until next week for game results

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Lol, the number 1 or number 2 pick doesn't increase our chances of winning next year.  Im not buying it.  BTJ those rookies also want win, hence doing everything thing they can to look good and make some plays. I've never seen someone whine and cry about beating the Titans especially when our rookies are the biggest reason why and we are still picking in the top 5 lol.

No one is whining or crying.  I just find it amazing that you can't admit that having the #1 or #2 pick is better than having than the #5 pick.  You not only have your choice of players, but it could also potentially be a huge opportunity in terms of trading down to a team desperate for a quarterback.  

Also, it's not just about the first round pick.  The win yesterday drops our second round pick by 8 spots from the 33rd pick to the 41st pick.  That's a lot of quality players coming off the board.  We'll also be picking later in the 3rd round, 4th round, 5th round, 6th round and 7th round.  

We also handed a division rival the opportunity to draft their quarterback of the future by allowing the Titans to move up to the #2 spot.  Most believe there are two good quarterbacks in this draft.  They now can draft one without any trading up.  If the Patriots keep their pick and go Travis Hunter, the Titans will have their top choice of any quarterback in the draft.  If I was a Titans fan, I would be thanking the Jaguars.

We also need to consider the tougher schedule that we now get in 2025 as a result of yesterday's game.  Instead of playing two games against teams who average 3.5 wins, we now have to play two teams who average 10 wins.  If we lose even one of those games, you can put aside the draft picks, this reason alone makes yesterday's win not worth it.

Some would also argue that the extra win gives Khan an excuse to potentially not to fire Baalke and/or Pederson.  I don't know if I buy that, but it's possible.

I'm not saying yesterday's game is the end of the world, but a loss yesterday would have improved our chances of winning in 2025.

I have already admitted having pick 1 or 2 is better than pick 5.  With that said I dont think having pick 1 or 2 increases our chances of winning next year.  If we needed a QB I think it could be a valid argument but we don't.  If our older players were out there being the ones winning the games I'd be upset, but its our rookies being one of the biggest reasons we won the last game.  

Now with one game left I'd definitely rather pick 5th than 9th.  I don't want our vets to go out and win this last game.  I'd play the younger guys and see if they have what it takes.  If our young guys have improved enough to beat the Colts then great, I'd rather see the improvement from our rookies but if not then we get the 4th or 5th pick.  I'd rather BTJ go off and get 150 yrds 2 TDs, Masson Smith 2 sacks, Jarian Jones 1 INT, Strange 80 yrds recieving and a win than our rookies not look food and lose to the Colts.  Im saying improvment form the young guys are the most important thing for me. Maybe all our young guys can go off and a guy that won't be here next year will screw up at the end and cause us to lose the game.  With all that said, it's not where you pick its who you pick and who is making the pick.

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The mock simulator is use aint that good but i did it a few times and I actually got Johnson or Graham consistently at that 5th pick

Will wait until next week for game 

Hopefully we do pick 5th with all our young guys still going off.

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If our new GM sees Jeanty as a Saquon Barkley type level prospect at RB.  He might be at the top of my board.  The playoffs and the combine will be huge for Jeanty.

So he can have a Giants-like Barkley career here? Nah. If the new GM takes a running back in the top 5 he should be fired.

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It needs to be either line or a corner imo. Preferably a trade down to grab Campbell around 7 if possible. I’m sick of having a trash Oline.

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Woop time to get researching

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Honestly wasn’t thinking McMillan , but with Kirk Gabe AND Engram possibly on their way out, I think we might have to consider it.

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Honestly wasn’t thinking McMillan , but with Kirk Gabe AND Engram possibly on their way out, I think we might have to consider it.

Unfortunately, Gabe will be here.

He sucks so bad

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Honestly wasn’t thinking McMillan , but with Kirk Gabe AND Engram possibly on their way out, I think we might have to consider it.

Davis I think stays because of his cap hit. This was my line of thought as well. Really playing with fire by not adding another big body or play making WR. Especially if you lose Kirk and Engram due to cap numbers.

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If the report that Baalke will remain as G.M. is true, I'm afraid all of the draft and free agent talk is meaningless. What in the world could be the reason that Khan refuses to fire this guy? The players are the ones who determine a team's success and Baalke has failed more often than not at finding the best players. It will be interesting to see how this effects the coaching search. Are we to believe the stories that many top coaches would refuse to work with Baalke? My hope is that thousands of season ticket holders immediately decide to cancel forcing Khan to fire Baalke.

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The mock simulator is use aint that good but i did it a few times and I actually got Johnson or Graham consistently at that 5th pick

Will wait until next week for game results

Is Graham now off the table as the Jaguars' pick with Baalke returning?  Doesn't he have short arms?

I hate Baalke.

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The mock simulator is use aint that good but i did it a few times and I actually got Johnson or Graham consistently at that 5th pick

Will wait until next week for game results

Is Graham now off the table as the Jaguars' pick with Baalke returning?  Doesn't he have short arms?

I hate Baalke.

Yeah, if the rumors are true about the short arms, I think we take Will Johsnon.  Johnson is everything Baalke will want in a elite CB prospect.  I'm good with that as I even Graham and Johnson equal right now and both are huge needs

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If we stay at Pick 5 - Hunter, Graham, Johnson, or Carter interest me most right now.

That's defense, so hopefully a OL falls to the 2nd round spot. Tyler Booker, Marcus Mbow, Donovan Jackson.

I else could see edge or S go here if no Carter in the first. Tuimoloau, Watts, or Winston.

Third round I'm looking to get offense. Jalen royals at Wr, Tate Rayledge OG, Charles Grant to chase small school tackle, Blake Miller, Tory Hilton

Second third rounder I'm filling where I didn't there. Cb Thomas from FSU, Josh Connerly OT, Reed-Adams OG, or safety Bowman

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The mock simulator is use aint that good but i did it a few times and I actually got Johnson or Graham consistently at that 5th pick

Will wait until next week for game results

Is Graham now off the table as the Jaguars' pick with Baalke returning?  Doesn't he have short arms?

I hate Baalke.

I see him as overlap with our investment in Smith. I don't give a flip about arm length unless it is drastically off the charts. Motor and technique are WAY more important.

I just don't see a team that spent two picks and Armstead's FA money on the DT position taking yet another DT, if nothing else that's an ego thing, it would be a bold statement that your past three attempts to solve the problem failed. Consider that we have this opportunity and could have spent either pick last year on some interior linemen in a darft that was MUCH deeper on OL, and it hurts just that much more.

Grape jerb, Baalke.

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If we stay at Pick 5 - Hunter, Graham, Johnson, or Carter interest me most right now.

That's defense, so hopefully a OL falls to the 2nd round spot.  Tyler Booker, Marcus Mbow, Donovan Jackson. 

I else could see edge or S go here if no Carter in the first.  Tuimoloau, Watts, or Winston.

Third round I'm looking to get offense.  Jalen royals at Wr, Tate Rayledge OG, Charles Grant to chase small school tackle, Blake Miller, Tory Hilton

Second third rounder I'm filling where I didn't there. Cb Thomas from FSU, Josh Connerly OT, Reed-Adams OG, or safety Bowman

To dovetail on this post, what is the thinking on a guy like Starks? I don't think 5 is good value for him, but if we do manage a trade back, is getting a guy like him at the top of his position group better than settling for one of the big guys on the lines?

I don't see his name pop up on a lot of wish lists, and I know we need to fix the interiors. Just curious what everyone considers.

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Is Graham now off the table as the Jaguars' pick with Baalke returning?  Doesn't he have short arms?

I hate Baalke.

I see him as overlap with our investment in Smith. I don't give a flip about arm length unless it is drastically off the charts. Motor and technique are WAY more important.

I just don't see a team that spent two picks and Armstead's FA money on the DT position taking yet another DT, if nothing else that's an ego thing, it would be a bold statement that your past three attempts to solve the problem failed. Consider that we have this opportunity and could have spent either pick last year on some interior linemen in a darft that was MUCH deeper on OL, and it hurts just that much more.

Grape jerb, Baalke.

Pedersen/Baalke signed Foye, traded up for Lloyd, and drafted Muma in one offseason. Then they followed up by drafting Ventrell Miller higher than some thought he would go.

There is definitely a chance they go back to well for DT.

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