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Thoughts on Canada as 51st State
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I know Trump was probably kidding. At least, I hope he was kidding. Nonetheless, I have some thoughts about it.
Canada would never agree to come in as one state. They would want each province to be a state. They have 10 provinces. They would want 10 states. That would be 20 new Senators, and of course Representatives based on population. Canada has a population of 41 million. Congressional districts in the US average 700,000 people. That would be 58 new Congress people. So we would have 20 new Senators, and 58 new Representatives. So how would these new Senators and Representatives align politically? I'm not sure on that, although they are very liberal on abortion. Canada also has a higher minimum wage, free healthcare, they legalized gay marriage 10 years before the US, and they place a greater emphasis on multiculturalism. <I got that off the internet, full disclosure. So, imagine these 20 new Senators and 58 new Representatives, and how they would align politically. I don't think they would be MAGA supporters. I suppose Trump's 25 percent tariffs on Canadian products would go away, if Canada was part of the United States. It would be the ultimate free trade agreement. This "Canada as the 51st state" doesn't sound like a very good idea if you are a MAGA person. In fact, it would seem like a better idea to just have the free trade agreement and not have them be part of the US, so they don't get political power. After all, if they are the 51st state, it's going to be free trade all the way. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (12-31-2024, 10:05 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: I know Trump was probably kidding. At least, I hope he was kidding. Nonetheless, I have some thoughts about it. There would be 58 new representatives, until the next census. If it happened now, we would have reapportionment between 2030 and 2032. Every area would lose representatives until the total was back down to 435. The number 435 dates back about 100 years, it is arbitrary. It would make more sense if the number had something to do with the current population. One idea is to make the number equal to the population of the entire country divided by the population of the smallest state. That way, when the smallest state gets one representative their representation is still in proportion to the other states. Today, because the number 435 is too small, the very smallest states get an exaggerated amount of representation in the House.
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You guys are way off base with this. We'd just make the whole country a territory, so it would get the same level of representation as Guam.
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Trump jokes about this but in the meantime, we have Puerto Rico voting to become a state over and over again, and both parties in Congress basically ignore them.
Trump I understand. Just like he wants all of our immigrants to come from places like Norway, of course he only wants our new states to be places like Canadian provinces. The rest of Congress, I don't understand.
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Only parts of Canada would want this. The non-populated areas, most central and west, would openly want to join the US. Some of them are already looking into breaking from Canada.
If the US did this, there would need to be trial period of 10 years or so, need to balance the budget before and maintain it, remove all the people they let into their country, and then not gaining full voting rights for a while. Sent from my SM-T970 using Tapatalk We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
(12-31-2024, 10:30 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: You guys are way off base with this. We'd just make the whole country a territory, so it would get the same level of representation as Guam. They wouldn't agree to that. (12-31-2024, 10:37 AM)p_rushing Wrote: Only parts of Canada would want this. The non-populated areas, most central and west, would openly want to join the US. Some of them are already looking into breaking from Canada. They wouldn't agree to that, either. (12-31-2024, 10:37 AM)p_rushing Wrote: Only parts of Canada would want this. The non-populated areas, most central and west, would openly want to join the US. Some of them are already looking into breaking from Canada. There it is.
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(12-31-2024, 10:32 AM)mikesez Wrote: Trump jokes about this but in the meantime, we have Puerto Rico voting to become a state over and over again, and both parties in Congress basically ignore them. He said this?
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(12-31-2024, 12:07 PM)homebiscuit Wrote:(12-31-2024, 10:32 AM)mikesez Wrote: Trump jokes about this but in the meantime, we have Puerto Rico voting to become a state over and over again, and both parties in Congress basically ignore them. According to an anonymous source, he said he wanted more immigrants from Norway. Strictly speaking, he didn't say he wanted all our immigrants to come from places like Norway. -countries]Trump's Desire For More Immigrants From Norway Has Historical Precedent : Goats and Soda : NPR "In the Thursday meeting in which President Trump complained about "having all these people from [BLEEP] countries come here" — and singled out Haiti, El Salvador and Africa as examples — he also added that, "we should have more people from Norway."" We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
Ah, the anonymous source that has proven time and time again to be accurate.
(12-31-2024, 12:44 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: Ah, the anonymous source that has proven time and time again to be accurate. Well, it would be in line with other things we know about him and about people like p_rushing who vote for him.
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(12-31-2024, 12:15 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:(12-31-2024, 12:07 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: He said this? The words "anonymous source" and "NPR" don't bode well for journalistic integrity, but so long as it's against Trump then it's good enough. Am I right? Do you remember, or care, what the context was of that alleged statement? Trump said he used tough language but denied he said that, btw, but I know you don't care. Do you also buy into the "fine people on both sides" narrative that the MSM generated by blatantly omitting his follow-on statement which completely negated their intent? The MSM constantly lied to you for 4 years about your boy Joe, but you continue to buy into their horse [BLEEP] because you somehow think it makes you look intellectual. No, Marty, it doesn't. It makes you look petty, gullible, and lazy.
(12-31-2024, 12:15 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:(12-31-2024, 12:07 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: He said this? Have you ever thought about what exactly that he was saying? With the exception of Africa what good for the country has come from migrants from those countries? As far as people from Norway, they are a different breed. Part of my career involved training both our Navy and people from the RNAF. The Norwegians routinely far out performed our own military in every exercise. Not to mention that the females that came from there were much hotter than any female Navy sailor that I have ever trained. There are 10 kinds of people in this world. Those who understand binary and those who don't. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (12-31-2024, 10:42 AM)mikesez Wrote:What's wrong with removing all the illegals and replacements the globalist have let into Canada?(12-31-2024, 10:37 AM)p_rushing Wrote: Only parts of Canada would want this. The non-populated areas, most central and west, would openly want to join the US. Some of them are already looking into breaking from Canada. These aren't bright, innovative, .1% or even 1%. Canada has a worse problem than the US does in some areas. Sent from my SM-T970 using Tapatalk
Only 2 good things have ever come out of Canada...... Ice Hockey! And they brew some damn good beer..........
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(12-31-2024, 06:00 PM)p_rushing Wrote:(12-31-2024, 10:42 AM)mikesez Wrote: There it is.What's wrong with removing all the illegals and replacements the globalist have let into Canada? And there it is again. (12-31-2024, 04:45 PM)homebiscuit Wrote:(12-31-2024, 12:15 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: According to an anonymous source, he said he wanted more immigrants from Norway. Strictly speaking, he didn't say he wanted all our immigrants to come from places like Norway. The poop hole countries comment was said in the context of a discussion about renewing/extending temporary protected status for Haitians and El Salvadorans.
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(12-31-2024, 06:24 PM)mikesez Wrote:(12-31-2024, 06:00 PM)p_rushing Wrote: What's wrong with removing all the illegals and replacements the globalist have let into Canada? Incorrect. I want Marty to find it. Maybe it will teach him that what comes out of the MSM is an ideological worldview based in lies, half-truths and deceit when it comes to their political opponents. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
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(12-31-2024, 04:45 PM)homebiscuit Wrote:(12-31-2024, 12:15 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: According to an anonymous source, he said he wanted more immigrants from Norway. Strictly speaking, he didn't say he wanted all our immigrants to come from places like Norway. Whoa, turn down the flames. Mike said Trump wanted all our immigrants to come from Norway. You asked Mike, did he [actually] say that? And I, trying to be helpful as usual, looked into it and found an article that said that an anonymous source said he said he wanted more of our immigrants to come from Norway. Not all, but more. And that's where it came from. An anonymous source who attended a fundraiser. Happy New Year. (01-01-2025, 07:20 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:(12-31-2024, 04:45 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: The words "anonymous source" and "NPR" don't bode well for journalistic integrity, but so long as it's against Trump then it's good enough. Am I right? So in summary another red herring. Thank you for clearing this up.
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(01-01-2025, 07:20 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:(12-31-2024, 04:45 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: The words "anonymous source" and "NPR" don't bode well for journalistic integrity, but so long as it's against Trump then it's good enough. Am I right? I allowed my frustration with the MSM to turn into an attack on you. Sorry, Marty. Happy New Year. |
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