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The Safety position

#1

Out of every position on the team I think this is where the team degressed the most.  Also one of the biggest reasons we were last in passing defense.

https://twitter.com/throwthedamball/stat...87/photo/1


The good thing for us is safety is one of the deepest positions in FA and the draft.  Id honestly like to get 2 new starting safties, 1 in FA and 1 in the draft.  We have to bring in 1 quality starter.  If we dont get a Trey Smith or a Tee Higgins in FA I hope our big time FA is one of the safties.  If not id love to add Justin Reid who has been a big part of the Chiefs great D and wont break the bank but would be a huge upgrade.  In the 2nd round of the draft I think we need to come away with one of the top safties in the draft even if it means trading up from the 3rd.  I think one of Emmanwori, Starks, or Watts we could with our 2nd round pick. Jahdae Barron would be a great pick in the 2nd as well, the Jim Thorpe award winner who can play S or CB.  You have guys like Malachi Moore and Kamari Ramsey who could be had in the 3rd or 4th possibly that could also be upgrades for us. 

With that said, this is one of the best years in recent memory if we want to upgrade the safety position in the offseason.  It wouldnt be hard to turn one of our biggest weaknesses into a strength with all the very good safeties that will be available. Javon Holland is a FA and would be an amazing get as well.  Camryn Bynom is a FA for the Vikings that has played well this year and Talanoa Hufanga will also be a FA.  Hufanga could be an interesting get, he will likely a discount being he tore his ACL last year but he is will only be 25 and was an All Pro before the injury.  Lots of great options at S this offseason and Baalke or whoever cant mess this up.
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(01-11-2025, 10:41 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Out of every position on the team I think this is where the team degressed the most.  Also one of the biggest reasons we were last in passing defense.

https://twitter.com/throwthedamball/stat...87/photo/1


The good thing for us is safety is one of the deepest positions in FA and the draft.  Id honestly like to get 2 new starting safties, 1 in FA and 1 in the draft.  We have to bring in 1 quality starter.  If we dont get a Trey Smith or a Tee Higgins in FA I hope our big time FA is one of the safties.  If not id love to add Justin Reid who has been a big part of the Chiefs great D and wont break the bank but would be a huge upgrade.  In the 2nd round of the draft I think we need to come away with one of the top safties in the draft even if it means trading up from the 3rd.  I think one of Emmanwori, Starks, or Watts we could with our 2nd round pick. Jahdae Barron would be a great pick in the 2nd as well, the Jim Thorpe award winner who can play S or CB.  You have guys like Malachi Moore and Kamari Ramsey who could be had in the 3rd or 4th possibly that could also be upgrades for us. 

With that said, this is one of the best years in recent memory if we want to upgrade the safety position in the offseason.  It wouldnt be hard to turn one of our biggest weaknesses into a strength with all the very good safeties that will be available. Javon Holland is a FA and would be an amazing get as well.  Camryn Bynom is a FA for the Vikings that has played well this year and Talanoa Hufanga will also be a FA.  Hufanga could be an interesting get, he will likely a discount being he tore his ACL last year but he is will only be 25 and was an All Pro before the injury.  Lots of great options at S this offseason and Baalke or whoever cant mess this up.


Yeah - as much as Nielsen's system seems to set these guys up to fail (see the separation number on that chart and think "scheme") the player performance was just absolutely miserable. 

(Kudos to Wingad coming in late and looking good against some lackluster QBs though) 

I can't hold out hope that Cisco is worth salvaging and his deal is up anyway. 
Savage was a bad signing and Johnson is practice squad material. 

Gotta start over completely at safety. 

I'd be looking for some legit 4.4 speed at FS and someone tough enough to punish/wear down tight ends at SS - but of course we have no idea what the new scheme will call for, so that's all wishful thinking on my part. 

Just so tired of watching free safeties that lack the closing speed to stifle big plays and strong safeties that can't make it difficult for tight ends underneath and down the seam.
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#3

Our franchise has a history of being owned no matter the safties. I have fan nightmares with Frank Wycheck running open and dashing our best super bowl hopes.

Cisco will probably do well somewhere else and it will sting some. It would be great to see player development happen on the next iteration of whatever we get.
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#4
(This post was last modified: 01-11-2025, 12:23 PM by Jaguarmeister.)

Cisco didn't play well this year, but we have seen him previously play well. I'd like to see him come back on a reasonable deal or a 1 year prove it. Someone else that liked him in the draft is likely to offer him a few years so the 1 year prove it scenario is probably not likely. Definitely need to look at the position in the draft regardless though.
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#5

(01-11-2025, 12:23 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: Cisco didn't play well this year, but we have seen him previously play well.  I'd like to see him come back on a reasonable deal or a 1 year prove it.  Someone else that liked him in the draft is likely to offer him a few years so the 1 year prove it scenario is probably not likely.  Definitely need to look at the position in the draft regardless though.

The contract year is your prove it year.
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#6

(01-11-2025, 12:23 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: Cisco didn't play well this year, but we have seen him previously play well.  I'd like to see him come back on a reasonable deal or a 1 year prove it.  Someone else that liked him in the draft is likely to offer him a few years so the 1 year prove it scenario is probably not likely.  Definitely need to look at the position in the draft regardless though.

The idea of a "prove it year" is total bull [BLEEP].  At the end of the prove it year, he's a free agent.  So if he proves it, we have to bid for him against other teams.  What good does that do us?
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#7
(This post was last modified: 01-11-2025, 02:01 PM by flgatorsandjags. Edited 1 time in total.)

(01-11-2025, 01:52 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(01-11-2025, 12:23 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: Cisco didn't play well this year, but we have seen him previously play well.  I'd like to see him come back on a reasonable deal or a 1 year prove it.  Someone else that liked him in the draft is likely to offer him a few years so the 1 year prove it scenario is probably not likely.  Definitely need to look at the position in the draft regardless though.

The idea of a "prove it year" is total bull [BLEEP].  At the end of the prove it year, he's a free agent.  So if he proves it, we have to bid for him against other teams.  What good does that do us?

A prove it year is when you get a guy from another team on a one year deal.  Not a guy that's been here 4 years going on his 5th year lol. Your contract year is your prove it year.  Cisco was one of my favorite players but after this year it's time to go another direction and time for an upgrade.
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#8

(01-11-2025, 10:41 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Out of every position on the team I think this is where the team degressed the most.  Also one of the biggest reasons we were last in passing defense.

https://twitter.com/throwthedamball/stat...87/photo/1


The good thing for us is safety is one of the deepest positions in FA and the draft.  Id honestly like to get 2 new starting safties, 1 in FA and 1 in the draft.  We have to bring in 1 quality starter.  If we dont get a Trey Smith or a Tee Higgins in FA I hope our big time FA is one of the safties.  If not id love to add Justin Reid who has been a big part of the Chiefs great D and wont break the bank but would be a huge upgrade.  In the 2nd round of the draft I think we need to come away with one of the top safties in the draft even if it means trading up from the 3rd.  I think one of Emmanwori, Starks, or Watts we could with our 2nd round pick. Jahdae Barron would be a great pick in the 2nd as well, the Jim Thorpe award winner who can play S or CB.  You have guys like Malachi Moore and Kamari Ramsey who could be had in the 3rd or 4th possibly that could also be upgrades for us. 

With that said, this is one of the best years in recent memory if we want to upgrade the safety position in the offseason.  It wouldnt be hard to turn one of our biggest weaknesses into a strength with all the very good safeties that will be available. Javon Holland is a FA and would be an amazing get as well.  Camryn Bynom is a FA for the Vikings that has played well this year and Talanoa Hufanga will also be a FA.  Hufanga could be an interesting get, he will likely a discount being he tore his ACL last year but he is will only be 25 and was an All Pro before the injury.  Lots of great options at S this offseason and Baalke or whoever cant mess this up.

I think they regressed because of Nielsen. 

Savage and Cisco are talented. I wouldn’t resign Cisco because another team will overpay, but I think another outside corner is top priority.
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#9

That chart matches up with the eye test for me on Savage.  I thought he was god awful this year.  

Many thought we got a steal when we took Antonio Johnson in the 5th round.  This year, we saw why he lasted to the fifth round.  He's a depth player at best and maybe not even that.

Cisco is interesting.  I thought he was decent in the past but played poorly this year.  Is that the scheme and him playing out of position?  If he's dirt cheap, I could see an argument to resign him, but my inclination is to find an upgrade.

I would bring in two new safeties.
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(This post was last modified: 01-11-2025, 02:33 PM by flgatorsandjags. Edited 1 time in total.)

(01-11-2025, 02:05 PM)TheDogCatcher Wrote:
(01-11-2025, 10:41 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Out of every position on the team I think this is where the team degressed the most.  Also one of the biggest reasons we were last in passing defense.

https://twitter.com/throwthedamball/stat...87/photo/1


The good thing for us is safety is one of the deepest positions in FA and the draft.  Id honestly like to get 2 new starting safties, 1 in FA and 1 in the draft.  We have to bring in 1 quality starter.  If we dont get a Trey Smith or a Tee Higgins in FA I hope our big time FA is one of the safties.  If not id love to add Justin Reid who has been a big part of the Chiefs great D and wont break the bank but would be a huge upgrade.  In the 2nd round of the draft I think we need to come away with one of the top safties in the draft even if it means trading up from the 3rd.  I think one of Emmanwori, Starks, or Watts we could with our 2nd round pick. Jahdae Barron would be a great pick in the 2nd as well, the Jim Thorpe award winner who can play S or CB.  You have guys like Malachi Moore and Kamari Ramsey who could be had in the 3rd or 4th possibly that could also be upgrades for us. 

With that said, this is one of the best years in recent memory if we want to upgrade the safety position in the offseason.  It wouldnt be hard to turn one of our biggest weaknesses into a strength with all the very good safeties that will be available. Javon Holland is a FA and would be an amazing get as well.  Camryn Bynom is a FA for the Vikings that has played well this year and Talanoa Hufanga will also be a FA.  Hufanga could be an interesting get, he will likely a discount being he tore his ACL last year but he is will only be 25 and was an All Pro before the injury.  Lots of great options at S this offseason and Baalke or whoever cant mess this up.

I think they regressed because of Nielsen. 

Savage and Cisco are talented. I wouldn’t resign Cisco because another team will overpay, but I think another outside corner is top priority.
Every player on D regressed because of Nielsen outside of maybe Walker who looked like he did last year imo. Lloyd might of had his best year.
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#11
(This post was last modified: 01-11-2025, 02:58 PM by AnOldBrownie. Edited 1 time in total.)

There is not one pro bowl skill level player in our secondary and the closest guy that might get there one day (even though I think JJones has potential) is Tyson, whose been injured the past two years. Prior to that, his only real knock was playing the ball in the air.

Whose instinctual in our safety room...what has good instincts? Maybe Dewey..who isn't athletic enough.

Upgrading from Cisco...who is the only a safety who I think won't be back...is a must. We're not bringing back Kirk so we're going to have the $$$ to upgrade the position. The bar should be Derwin Jones. A big, instinctual and fast safety that plays with his head on a swivel.

Unfortunately, it may have to come in the draft..

If he makes it to the 3rd round...I'm looking at Kevin Winston out of Penn State AND getting a free agent safety that will be on the Jags for 5 years. Savage and Dewey aren't going to be on the team in 2 seasons and I haven't seen anything from Anthony Johnson to say he's going to be a regular starter when his rookie contract runs out.

Jags need safety help in the worst way. Mostly because our LBs are crap in passing situations.

Savage = Ezra Cleveland on defense. Good enough to be an average starter...but not good enough to be retained by his previous squad and it didn't take breaking the bank for the Jaguars to acquire his services. A guy that you want a better player at the position.

Which is exactly where I think Cisco is THIS coming year. Cisco = Savage of 2024.
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(01-11-2025, 01:18 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(01-11-2025, 12:23 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: Cisco didn't play well this year, but we have seen him previously play well.  I'd like to see him come back on a reasonable deal or a 1 year prove it.  Someone else that liked him in the draft is likely to offer him a few years so the 1 year prove it scenario is probably not likely.  Definitely need to look at the position in the draft regardless though.

The contract year is your prove it year.

Right, but is there one clear reason for that?  Was it all on him?  I mean, Nielsen's defense is highly criticized around here and apparently rightfully so.  Did the scheme and/or other talent deficient personnel in the secondary contribute to his apparent poor play?  Tape watchers here and in the building will know I suppose, but if he was looking bad because of failings elsewhere in the scheme or because of other deficient talent on defense, perhaps 2024 is not representative of him moving forward?  He's still very young.  He'll be just 25 in March.

I just find people quick to jump to very easy and lazy conclusions about things (shocker on an internet sports message board I know) when context absolutely matters and there are a great many factors that go into final scores and win/loss records.  Perhaps that's not happening here and you've delved into the tape, but it definitely happens.  We can all agree we want to avoid scenarios of throwing the baby out with the bathwater and then watching baby go somewhere else and play at a really high level, right?  We heard enough about Quincy Williams for the past couple of years.  Let's just make sure we're throwing out a turd and not a diamond covered in soot is all.

This past season had a lot of things contributing to the negative result we got.  Many people either like to or need to find one singular focus for their ire though, when the reality is that it was a bunch of things, probably none of them back breaking on their own.  This past season has been weird in the sense that there isn't necessarily a consensus on this board on who that one person is.  For many, it's either Pederson or Baalke or Press or Nielsen or Trevor or other specific player(s) or perhaps for some it's all of the above.  Khan has clearly assigned majority blame to Pederson based on him being the only one fired at the moment.  Baalke may yet be fired as well though, who knows?  At any rate, if Nielsen is that singular focus in someone's mind and is hot garbage and the primary reason for our record, might that absolve Cisco's 2024 season even a little?
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(01-11-2025, 10:41 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Out of every position on the team I think this is where the team degressed the most.  Also one of the biggest reasons we were last in passing defense.

https://twitter.com/throwthedamball/stat...87/photo/1


The good thing for us is safety is one of the deepest positions in FA and the draft.  Id honestly like to get 2 new starting safties, 1 in FA and 1 in the draft.  We have to bring in 1 quality starter.  If we dont get a Trey Smith or a Tee Higgins in FA I hope our big time FA is one of the safties.  If not id love to add Justin Reid who has been a big part of the Chiefs great D and wont break the bank but would be a huge upgrade.  In the 2nd round of the draft I think we need to come away with one of the top safties in the draft even if it means trading up from the 3rd.  I think one of Emmanwori, Starks, or Watts we could with our 2nd round pick. Jahdae Barron would be a great pick in the 2nd as well, the Jim Thorpe award winner who can play S or CB.  You have guys like Malachi Moore and Kamari Ramsey who could be had in the 3rd or 4th possibly that could also be upgrades for us. 

With that said, this is one of the best years in recent memory if we want to upgrade the safety position in the offseason.  It wouldnt be hard to turn one of our biggest weaknesses into a strength with all the very good safeties that will be available. Javon Holland is a FA and would be an amazing get as well.  Camryn Bynom is a FA for the Vikings that has played well this year and Talanoa Hufanga will also be a FA.  Hufanga could be an interesting get, he will likely a discount being he tore his ACL last year but he is will only be 25 and was an All Pro before the injury.  Lots of great options at S this offseason and Baalke or whoever cant mess this up.
There are definitely many good options in both the draft and free agency to upgrade the safety position. The Jaguars also need to add a 2nd starting cornerback to replace Darby. While this position isn't quite as deep in free agency as safety, there are still some good candidates. Charvarious Ward, D.J. Reed, Byron Murphy and Carlton Davis would all be upgrades in our secondary.
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(01-11-2025, 03:03 PM)jaglou53 Wrote:
(01-11-2025, 10:41 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Out of every position on the team I think this is where the team degressed the most.  Also one of the biggest reasons we were last in passing defense.

https://twitter.com/throwthedamball/stat...87/photo/1


The good thing for us is safety is one of the deepest positions in FA and the draft.  Id honestly like to get 2 new starting safties, 1 in FA and 1 in the draft.  We have to bring in 1 quality starter.  If we dont get a Trey Smith or a Tee Higgins in FA I hope our big time FA is one of the safties.  If not id love to add Justin Reid who has been a big part of the Chiefs great D and wont break the bank but would be a huge upgrade.  In the 2nd round of the draft I think we need to come away with one of the top safties in the draft even if it means trading up from the 3rd.  I think one of Emmanwori, Starks, or Watts we could with our 2nd round pick. Jahdae Barron would be a great pick in the 2nd as well, the Jim Thorpe award winner who can play S or CB.  You have guys like Malachi Moore and Kamari Ramsey who could be had in the 3rd or 4th possibly that could also be upgrades for us. 

With that said, this is one of the best years in recent memory if we want to upgrade the safety position in the offseason.  It wouldnt be hard to turn one of our biggest weaknesses into a strength with all the very good safeties that will be available. Javon Holland is a FA and would be an amazing get as well.  Camryn Bynom is a FA for the Vikings that has played well this year and Talanoa Hufanga will also be a FA.  Hufanga could be an interesting get, he will likely a discount being he tore his ACL last year but he is will only be 25 and was an All Pro before the injury.  Lots of great options at S this offseason and Baalke or whoever cant mess this up.
There are definitely many good options in both the draft and free agency to upgrade the safety position. The Jaguars also need to add a 2nd starting cornerback to replace Darby. While this position isn't quite as deep in free agency as safety, there are still some good candidates. Charvarious Ward, D.J. Reed, Byron Murphy and Carlton Davis would all be upgrades in our secondary.


Would definitely increase the depth at the position.   

Problem with safety is that the FA class isn't anywhere near as deep.
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Cited this in the NFL forum with free agents available. Camryn Bynum from the Vikings would be an ideal target. Through the draft, there's a number of solid prospects to target. I like Kevin Winston Jr., Xavier Watts and Hunter Wohler in particular. This would be a good start in moving on from the failures of Cisco, Johnson & Savage.
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(01-11-2025, 02:46 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote:
(01-11-2025, 01:18 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: The contract year is your prove it year.

Right, but is there one clear reason for that?  Was it all on him?  I mean, Nielsen's defense is highly criticized around here and apparently rightfully so.  Did the scheme and/or other talent deficient personnel in the secondary contribute to his apparent poor play?  Tape watchers here and in the building will know I suppose, but if he was looking bad because of failings elsewhere in the scheme or because of other deficient talent on defense, perhaps 2024 is not representative of him moving forward?  He's still very young.  He'll be just 25 in March.

I just find people quick to jump to very easy and lazy conclusions about things (shocker on an internet sports message board I know) when context absolutely matters and there are a great many factors that go into final scores and win/loss records.  Perhaps that's not happening here and you've delved into the tape, but it definitely happens.  We can all agree we want to avoid scenarios of throwing the baby out with the bathwater and then watching baby go somewhere else and play at a really high level, right?  We heard enough about Quincy Williams for the past couple of years.  Let's just make sure we're throwing out a turd and not a diamond covered in soot is all.

This past season had a lot of things contributing to the negative result we got.  Many people either like to or need to find one singular focus for their ire though, when the reality is that it was a bunch of things, probably none of them back breaking on their own.  This past season has been weird in the sense that there isn't necessarily a consensus on this board on who that one person is.  For many, it's either Pederson or Baalke or Press or Nielsen or Trevor or other specific player(s) or perhaps for some it's all of the above.  Khan has clearly assigned majority blame to Pederson based on him being the only one fired at the moment.  Baalke may yet be fired as well though, who knows?  At any rate, if Nielsen is that singular focus in someone's mind and is hot garbage and the primary reason for our record, might that absolve Cisco's 2024 season even a little?
Thats because it wasnt just one thing, it was a bunch of things.  Almost every player on defense regressed on D because of Nielsen.  I think Cisco will do decent to whichever team signs him and ill be pulling for him.  With that said I want the best possible solution at S we can get and I dont think that will be Cisco.  If you think he will be the best option than cool, but I think we can upgrade both safety spots.  I dont want to resign a guy hoping for a rebound when there will be multiple guys out there that has been playing at a hight level.  I want a guy that has continued high level play like a Justin Ried or a Budda Baker.  If we can get him for cheap sure but he will be looking for a decent pay day being he will be coming off his rookie contract.

(01-11-2025, 03:03 PM)jaglou53 Wrote:
(01-11-2025, 10:41 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Out of every position on the team I think this is where the team degressed the most.  Also one of the biggest reasons we were last in passing defense.

https://twitter.com/throwthedamball/stat...87/photo/1


The good thing for us is safety is one of the deepest positions in FA and the draft.  Id honestly like to get 2 new starting safties, 1 in FA and 1 in the draft.  We have to bring in 1 quality starter.  If we dont get a Trey Smith or a Tee Higgins in FA I hope our big time FA is one of the safties.  If not id love to add Justin Reid who has been a big part of the Chiefs great D and wont break the bank but would be a huge upgrade.  In the 2nd round of the draft I think we need to come away with one of the top safties in the draft even if it means trading up from the 3rd.  I think one of Emmanwori, Starks, or Watts we could with our 2nd round pick. Jahdae Barron would be a great pick in the 2nd as well, the Jim Thorpe award winner who can play S or CB.  You have guys like Malachi Moore and Kamari Ramsey who could be had in the 3rd or 4th possibly that could also be upgrades for us. 

With that said, this is one of the best years in recent memory if we want to upgrade the safety position in the offseason.  It wouldnt be hard to turn one of our biggest weaknesses into a strength with all the very good safeties that will be available. Javon Holland is a FA and would be an amazing get as well.  Camryn Bynom is a FA for the Vikings that has played well this year and Talanoa Hufanga will also be a FA.  Hufanga could be an interesting get, he will likely a discount being he tore his ACL last year but he is will only be 25 and was an All Pro before the injury.  Lots of great options at S this offseason and Baalke or whoever cant mess this up.
There are definitely many good options in both the draft and free agency to upgrade the safety position. The Jaguars also need to add a 2nd starting cornerback to replace Darby. While this position isn't quite as deep in free agency as safety, there are still some good candidates. Charvarious Ward, D.J. Reed, Byron Murphy and Carlton Davis would all be upgrades in our secondary.
I think really just one with Jones and Campbell.  Im hoping Will Johnson is 100% come combine
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(01-11-2025, 03:45 PM)Caldrac Wrote: Cited this in the NFL forum with free agents available. Camryn Bynum from the Vikings would be an ideal target. Through the draft, there's a number of solid prospects to target. I like Kevin Winston Jr., Xavier Watts and Hunter Wohler in particular. This would be a good start in moving on from the failures of Cisco, Johnson & Savage.

Listening to 1010XL this afternoon as I was running errands.  Apparently we have 50 million in cap space right now.  

Targeting FAs in the secondary could be a possibility.  Thus shoring up the ability to draft OT and DL in the first couple rounds.
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(01-11-2025, 03:03 PM)jaglou53 Wrote:
(01-11-2025, 10:41 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Out of every position on the team I think this is where the team degressed the most.  Also one of the biggest reasons we were last in passing defense.

https://twitter.com/throwthedamball/stat...87/photo/1


The good thing for us is safety is one of the deepest positions in FA and the draft.  Id honestly like to get 2 new starting safties, 1 in FA and 1 in the draft.  We have to bring in 1 quality starter.  If we dont get a Trey Smith or a Tee Higgins in FA I hope our big time FA is one of the safties.  If not id love to add Justin Reid who has been a big part of the Chiefs great D and wont break the bank but would be a huge upgrade.  In the 2nd round of the draft I think we need to come away with one of the top safties in the draft even if it means trading up from the 3rd.  I think one of Emmanwori, Starks, or Watts we could with our 2nd round pick. Jahdae Barron would be a great pick in the 2nd as well, the Jim Thorpe award winner who can play S or CB.  You have guys like Malachi Moore and Kamari Ramsey who could be had in the 3rd or 4th possibly that could also be upgrades for us. 

With that said, this is one of the best years in recent memory if we want to upgrade the safety position in the offseason.  It wouldnt be hard to turn one of our biggest weaknesses into a strength with all the very good safeties that will be available. Javon Holland is a FA and would be an amazing get as well.  Camryn Bynom is a FA for the Vikings that has played well this year and Talanoa Hufanga will also be a FA.  Hufanga could be an interesting get, he will likely a discount being he tore his ACL last year but he is will only be 25 and was an All Pro before the injury.  Lots of great options at S this offseason and Baalke or whoever cant mess this up.
There are definitely many good options in both the draft and free agency to upgrade the safety position. The Jaguars also need to add a 2nd starting cornerback to replace Darby. While this position isn't quite as deep in free agency as safety, there are still some good candidates. Charvarious Ward, D.J. Reed, Byron Murphy and Carlton Davis would all be upgrades in our secondary.
Id be good if they want to add a CB in FA and go dline at 5.
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(01-11-2025, 04:56 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(01-11-2025, 03:03 PM)jaglou53 Wrote: There are definitely many good options in both the draft and free agency to upgrade the safety position. The Jaguars also need to add a 2nd starting cornerback to replace Darby. While this position isn't quite as deep in free agency as safety, there are still some good candidates. Charvarious Ward, D.J. Reed, Byron Murphy and Carlton Davis would all be upgrades in our secondary.
Id be good if they want to add a CB in FA and go dline at 5.

Devon Hamilton, Arik Armstead, Maason Smith and Jordan Jefferson are all under contract. 

Even if Lacy and Leadbetter get let go...interior DL (and I like Graham) with so many other needs...I don't know man.

Chargers safety just made a big play by stripping the Texans receiver.   Would be nice to bring in someone like James.
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(01-11-2025, 04:56 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(01-11-2025, 03:03 PM)jaglou53 Wrote: There are definitely many good options in both the draft and free agency to upgrade the safety position. The Jaguars also need to add a 2nd starting cornerback to replace Darby. While this position isn't quite as deep in free agency as safety, there are still some good candidates. Charvarious Ward, D.J. Reed, Byron Murphy and Carlton Davis would all be upgrades in our secondary.
Id be good if they want to add a CB in FA and go dline at 5.

(01-11-2025, 05:57 PM)AnOldBrownie Wrote:
(01-11-2025, 04:56 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Id be good if they want to add a CB in FA and go dline at 5.

Devon Hamilton, Arik Armstead, Maason Smith and Jordan Jefferson are all under contract. 

Even if Lacy and Leadbetter get let go...interior DL (and I like Graham) with so many other needs...I don't know man.

Chargers safety just made a big play by stripping the Texans receiver.   Would be nice to bring in someone like James.

I'm not taking a safety at 5.  What do you mean like James?  None of these safties are as good as a prospect as James was coming out imo.  Emmanwori is 6'3 220 though and will likely run a fast 40 and also a ball hawk.  Watts don't have the size of James but is a damn good safety.  Starks is a really good safety as well but not the size of James
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