They are attempting to interview ten guys.
I'm gonna wait it out before catastrophizing every interview as our impending death knell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P10bC0Bxp20

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It's fine if they are seeing if he would take a DC job if the HC was interested.


It's 10 in round 1, round 2 will probably be 3-5. They will be lucky to make a decision before the Super bowl. The only good thing about that is Johnson may be in the Super bowl and not sign anywhere else.

Lol, oh that's a great dynamic. Glad to see we are searching for our DC right now lol.

There's 6 HC openings and roughly 12 "viable" candidates floating around. 

Good bet that 4 or 5 of these guys will end up with coordinator or position coach job offers if they don't land an HC gig. 

Nothing wrong with doing your due diligence in this situation. I actually would love for them to have spent time interviewing their eventual coordinator for the HC position at the end of the day.  The more info on these guys the better. 

If the Jags do 10 interviews and naively think there's no way one of these guys might end up hired as our coordinator after the dust settles, they'd be doing it wrong.

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Lol, oh that's a great dynamic. Glad to see we are searching for our DC right now lol.

There's 6 HC openings and roughly 12 "viable" candidates floating around. 

Good bet that 4 or 5 of these guys will end up with coordinator or position coach job offers if they don't land an HC gig. 

Nothing wrong with doing your due diligence in this situation. I actually would love for them to have spent time interviewing their eventual coordinator for the HC position at the end of the day.  The more info on these guys the better. 

If the Jags do 10 interviews and naively think there's no way one of these guys might end up hired as our coordinator after the dust settles, they'd be doing it wrong.

I prefer the HC picks his guys. Picking the guys for him just causes division. GM/Owner should have ZERO input on the coordinators the HC wants.

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There's 6 HC openings and roughly 12 "viable" candidates floating around. 

Good bet that 4 or 5 of these guys will end up with coordinator or position coach job offers if they don't land an HC gig. 

Nothing wrong with doing your due diligence in this situation. I actually would love for them to have spent time interviewing their eventual coordinator for the HC position at the end of the day.  The more info on these guys the better. 

If the Jags do 10 interviews and naively think there's no way one of these guys might end up hired as our coordinator after the dust settles, they'd be doing it wrong.

I prefer the HC picks his guys. Picking the guys for him just causes division. GM/Owner should have ZERO input on the coordinators the HC wants.

Ummm - when did anyone imply otherwise? 

Interviewing all the HC candidates considered viable by your search committee doesn't mean you're suddenly going to alter course and tell your HC who to hire on his staff. 

Khan has clearly expressed that the next HC is going to rule the roost in Duval. Why would he then tell that guy who to hire? 

What I'm saying is it can only be beneficial to have your owners, executives, and search committee advisors be familiar with the guys the HC might bring in to work under him. 

Question: Do you actually think the reason they included Saleh in their search was because they want to tell their eventual HC to hire him?? Really?? 

Do you have any recollection on the national opinion of Saleh before Rodgers had him fired? 
I do.
He was a media darling credited with building a stout pass defense in NY that was getting all kinds of preseason love as a shoe-in playoff contender.  

In 2023 the Jets pass defense was top ten in:
Comp. % allowed
yard per attempt allowed
INTs forced

After the past two years of watching our secondary - I'm ALL ABOUT picking that guys brain in an interview if I get the chance. Even if I have zero interest in hiring him to coach my team.

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I prefer the HC picks his guys. Picking the guys for him just causes division. GM/Owner should have ZERO input on the coordinators the HC wants.

Ummm - when did anyone imply otherwise? 

Interviewing all the HC candidates considered viable by your search committee doesn't mean you're suddenly going to alter course and tell your HC who to hire on his staff. 

Khan has clearly expressed that the next HC is going to rule the roost in Duval. Why would he then tell that guy who to hire? 

What I'm saying is it can only be beneficial to have your owners, executives, and search committee advisors be familiar with the guys the HC might bring in to work under him. 

Question: Do you actually think the reason they included Saleh in their search was because they want to tell their eventual HC to hire him?? Really?? 

Do you have any recollection on the national opinion of Saleh before Rodgers had him fired? 
I do.
He was a media darling credited with building a stout defense in NY that was getting all kinds of preseason love as a shoe-in playoff contender.  

In 2023 the Jets pass defense was top ten in:
Comp. % allowed
yard per attempt allowed
INTs forced

After the past two years of watching our secondary - I'm ALL ABOUT picking that guys brain in an interview if I get the chance. Even if I have zero interest in hiring him to coach my team.

I disagree, there is zero point to due diligence if you're bringing in the guy to gauge his interest as DC as potentially the DC under the eventual HC. Absolute waste of time, zero need for it. Personally, I think the interest is real for Saleh at HC. I said it numerous times before, can look at previous posts, I think there is a giant mutual respect between Khan and Saleh and it absolutely would not surprise me if he is the hire. 

I also look at his time in NY. Yes the defense was good, but he had zero plan for the offense. Nathanial Hackett? Really, Saleh? Disgusting. His downfall was failure to bring in a good OC, maybe he has bad connections. Have they improved? Imagine he re-unites down here in Jax with Hackett as OC. That is my issue with Saleh, and he would HAVE to come with a good offensive coordinator or it's going to be a disaster again. He is much better as a D coordinator, and that's it imo. Don't want him coming down here, bringing a bunch of that dysfunctional Jets staff down here. No thanks!

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Ummm - when did anyone imply otherwise? 

Interviewing all the HC candidates considered viable by your search committee doesn't mean you're suddenly going to alter course and tell your HC who to hire on his staff. 

Khan has clearly expressed that the next HC is going to rule the roost in Duval. Why would he then tell that guy who to hire? 

What I'm saying is it can only be beneficial to have your owners, executives, and search committee advisors be familiar with the guys the HC might bring in to work under him. 

Question: Do you actually think the reason they included Saleh in their search was because they want to tell their eventual HC to hire him?? Really?? 

Do you have any recollection on the national opinion of Saleh before Rodgers had him fired? 
I do.
He was a media darling credited with building a stout defense in NY that was getting all kinds of preseason love as a shoe-in playoff contender.  

In 2023 the Jets pass defense was top ten in:
Comp. % allowed
yard per attempt allowed
INTs forced

After the past two years of watching our secondary - I'm ALL ABOUT picking that guys brain in an interview if I get the chance. Even if I have zero interest in hiring him to coach my team.

I disagree, there is zero point to due diligence if you're bringing in the guy to gauge his interest as DC as potentially the DC under the eventual HC. Absolute waste of time, zero need for it. Personally, I think the interest is real for Saleh at HC. I said it numerous times before, can look at previous posts, I think there is a giant mutual respect between Khan and Saleh and it absolutely would not surprise me if he is the hire. 

I also look at his time in NY. Yes the defense was good, but he had zero plan for the offense. Nathanial Hackett? Really, Saleh? Disgusting. His downfall was failure to bring in a good OC, maybe he has bad connections. Have they improved? Imagine he re-unites down here in Jax with Hackett as OC. That is my issue with Saleh, and he would HAVE to come with a good offensive coordinator or it's going to be a disaster again. He is much better as a D coordinator, and that's it imo. Don't want him coming down here, bringing a bunch of that dysfunctional Jets staff down here. No thanks!

What about bringing him in to get outsider perspective on your team? 

I remember reading about teams doing that in the past. 

Also doesn't interviewing him also help meet the Rooney rule?

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They are attempting to interview ten guys.
I'm gonna wait it out before catastrophizing every interview as our impending death knell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P10bC0Bxp20

A group interview thing with multiple candidates there at once would be fascinating in an NFL context. But I doubt any of them would do that.

I remember one of the med school's I interviewed at did that. It was excruciating.

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I disagree, there is zero point to due diligence if you're bringing in the guy to gauge his interest as DC as potentially the DC under the eventual HC. Absolute waste of time, zero need for it. Personally, I think the interest is real for Saleh at HC. I said it numerous times before, can look at previous posts, I think there is a giant mutual respect between Khan and Saleh and it absolutely would not surprise me if he is the hire. 

I also look at his time in NY. Yes the defense was good, but he had zero plan for the offense. Nathanial Hackett? Really, Saleh? Disgusting. His downfall was failure to bring in a good OC, maybe he has bad connections. Have they improved? Imagine he re-unites down here in Jax with Hackett as OC. That is my issue with Saleh, and he would HAVE to come with a good offensive coordinator or it's going to be a disaster again. He is much better as a D coordinator, and that's it imo. Don't want him coming down here, bringing a bunch of that dysfunctional Jets staff down here. No thanks!

What about bringing him in to get outsider perspective on your team? 

I remember reading about teams doing that in the past. 

Also doesn't interviewing him also help meet the Rooney rule?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P10bC0Bxp20

A group interview thing with multiple candidates there at once would be fascinating in an NFL context. But I doubt any of them would do that.

I remember one of the med school's I interviewed at did that. It was excruciating.

With interviews of Graham and Flores I don't think the RR is a concern any longer.

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Ummm - when did anyone imply otherwise? 

Interviewing all the HC candidates considered viable by your search committee doesn't mean you're suddenly going to alter course and tell your HC who to hire on his staff. 

Khan has clearly expressed that the next HC is going to rule the roost in Duval. Why would he then tell that guy who to hire? 

What I'm saying is it can only be beneficial to have your owners, executives, and search committee advisors be familiar with the guys the HC might bring in to work under him. 

Question: Do you actually think the reason they included Saleh in their search was because they want to tell their eventual HC to hire him?? Really?? 

Do you have any recollection on the national opinion of Saleh before Rodgers had him fired? 
I do.
He was a media darling credited with building a stout defense in NY that was getting all kinds of preseason love as a shoe-in playoff contender.  

In 2023 the Jets pass defense was top ten in:
Comp. % allowed
yard per attempt allowed
INTs forced

After the past two years of watching our secondary - I'm ALL ABOUT picking that guys brain in an interview if I get the chance. Even if I have zero interest in hiring him to coach my team.

I disagree, there is zero point to due diligence if you're bringing in the guy to gauge his interest as DC as potentially the DC under the eventual HC. 

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That is not what they did.

They did their due diligence on interviewing viable candidates for HC. He was one of them. 

You're inventing a false narrative that they brought him in because they may want him as DC. 

He may be the 10th guy on their HC wish list, and he'd be 14th on mine, but you don't just blow off the interview because he's not your pre-interview top choice. That's literally the definition of due diligence. I must have missed the memo when we as a society cancelled due diligence.

BTW - Hackett was forced on him by Rodgers/ownership.

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Put all names in a hat and draw 1

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I disagree, there is zero point to due diligence if you're bringing in the guy to gauge his interest as DC as potentially the DC under the eventual HC. Absolute waste of time, zero need for it. Personally, I think the interest is real for Saleh at HC. I said it numerous times before, can look at previous posts, I think there is a giant mutual respect between Khan and Saleh and it absolutely would not surprise me if he is the hire. 

I also look at his time in NY. Yes the defense was good, but he had zero plan for the offense. Nathanial Hackett? Really, Saleh? Disgusting. His downfall was failure to bring in a good OC, maybe he has bad connections. Have they improved? Imagine he re-unites down here in Jax with Hackett as OC. That is my issue with Saleh, and he would HAVE to come with a good offensive coordinator or it's going to be a disaster again. He is much better as a D coordinator, and that's it imo. Don't want him coming down here, bringing a bunch of that dysfunctional Jets staff down here. No thanks!

What about bringing him in to get outsider perspective on your team? 

I remember reading about teams doing that in the past. 

Also doesn't interviewing him also help meet the Rooney rule?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P10bC0Bxp20

A group interview thing with multiple candidates there at once would be fascinating in an NFL context. But I doubt any of them would do that.

I remember one of the med school's I interviewed at did that. It was excruciating.

No, you only need to interview two minorities and the Jaguars had already interviewed Patrick Graham and Aaron Glenn, so it has already been met. Brian Flores, who the Jaguars have asked for an interview, would also have qualified.

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What about bringing him in to get outsider perspective on your team? 

I remember reading about teams doing that in the past. 

This is what Khan claims to do with every HC search. The issue is the only person in the room that knows anything about football is the snake. Plus you can't get an outsiders opinion unless you allow the insider to come in and observe the organization.

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Put all names in a hat and draw 1

This may be a better chance to end up with one of the top 3 choices

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Saleh will lead us to few solid 5-12 and 6-11 seasons, you can bet on that, jack.

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Johnson is khan’s first pick, the rest are likely just backup options. Source: myself with no evidence.

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We should hire the first woman NFL head coach. May as well break that glass ceiling. Ratings and media interest would be through the roof and revenue would sky rocket.

And we'd get a a 4 - 6 win season - but we'll get that anyways...so may as well make some Khan Coin.

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People stating it’s a waste of time, while I get the point, there’s plenty of time to waste, until Ben Johnson says no to them there likely isn’t a rush, and they wouldn’t hire Ben until after lions were out, so jags have plenty of time to interview a range of people nothing wrong in interviewing who ever even if it’s just to hear who they think are up and coming coaches they’d want on their staff, and to get outside perspective of their roster

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Dew dilly gents.

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Gene Frenette has lost his mind.

https://www.jacksonville.com/story/sport...675328007/

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Gene Frenette has lost his mind.

https://www.jacksonville.com/story/sport...675328007/

Saleh over Johnson is interesting. Considering recent track record for the two of them.

I am just not sure what people expect out of Saleh as a head coach. We can circle back to the defense getting better all we want. This doesn't answer the issues and challenges on offense. Which is where he'll have to figure it out more than anything.

I could support the hiring of Saleh, if, and ONLY IF, and it's a BIG IF. He has to be able to bring in somebody on offense that clearly has a record of success or moving things in the right direction.

I have no clue about his background or connections other than time spent here and in San Francisco prior to being in New York. So, unless he's hiring somebody like Frank Reich or Mike McCarthy to just be the offensive coordinator? I don't see how we can feel comfortable with him being in charge of everything.

I agree that, defense certainly still wins Championships. It's important. But, our inability to move the football on the ground, the lack of pass protection, the fact that Lawrence has been dinged up over the last two years, that, we have no cohesion or identity on offense. I don't know. There has to be an emphasis on that.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

https://twitter.com/CharlesRobinson/stat...5809157382

Coen seems to be the favorite at this point and Robinson mentions that the Jags may like Coen more than Johnson.

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Gene Frenette has lost his mind.

https://www.jacksonville.com/story/sport...675328007/

From my non-scientific sample of what I read on the internet, Johnson and Glenn seem to be the hot candidates, league-wide.  

But I'm not as against Saleh as some people seem to be.  His record with the Jets was the result of some bad circumstances.  Zach Wilson was the consensus #2 pick at the time, and since he was the #2 overall pick, the Jets felt like they had to start him, and he busted.  [BLEEP] happens.  

Saleh would not be my first choice, though.  But I don't think he'd be bad at all.

Liam Coen is 39 years old and doesn't have a lot of experience.  One year with the Rams, followed by one year with Kentucky, followed by one year with the Bucs.  Hiring someone to be a head coach in the NFL, when he has that little amount of experience, seems like quite a gamble.

From Coen's Wikipedia page:  

"Coen was named the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at Kentucky on December 15, 2020.[10] In Coen's unofficial interview with Kentucky head coach Mark Stoops, he presented a detailed plan of schedules and responsibilities as well as a video compilation of 300 offensive plays he thought he could implement from his time with the Rams."

So maybe he interviews well?  

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