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Bye Bye Freedom of the Press

#1

I joked in another thread that Trump will have to go after media outlets to get them to stop reporting things.

Well, maybe we're getting closer to that.


Quote:This is bonkers. FCC Chair Brendan Carr has opened an investigation into San Francisco’s KCBS station because he didn’t like their immigration reporting last month. I do not see how anyone who claims to care about free speech can be even remotely OK with this.

https://x.com/billybinion/status/1887882...1_&ref_url

https://www.kqed.org/news/12025977/fcc-i...edom-fears

Quote:The Federal Communications Commission is investigating San Francisco-based KCBS for its coverage of immigration enforcement actions in San José last month, sparking concerns from press freedom advocates and drawing right-wing backlash to the radio station.

In an interview on Fox News, Trump-appointed commission chair Brendan Carr said he opened the investigation after KCBS shared the live locations and vehicle descriptions of immigration officials on Jan. 26.

“We have sent a letter of inquiry, a formal investigation into that matter, and they have just a matter of days left to respond to that inquiry and explain how this could possibly be consistent with their public interest obligations,” Carr said.

First Amendment advocates worry the FCC investigation will have a chilling effect on news organizations reporting on the Trump administration’s mass deportation plans.

“Law enforcement operations, immigration or otherwise, are matters of public interest,” said David Loy, legal director for the First Amendment Coalition. “People generally have the right to report this on social media and in print and so on. So it’s very troubling because it’s possible the FCC is potentially being weaponized to crack down on reporting that the administration simply just doesn’t like.”


First demanding that CBS hand over the unedited video of Harris's 60 Minutes interview, now [BLEEP] like this.

We're in for a rough few years.


MAGA's think the 2nd Amendment should be first, and the 1st Amendment should not even exist.

Like Trump himself, they know better than the Founding Fathers.
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#2

Lol, you mean "bye bye Democrat House Organs Masquerading as independent news sources", and we're perfectly fine with that. The 60 Minutes example is the perfect demonstration of a supposed media outlet giving In Kind campaign donations by acting, not as a news program, but as a marketing and public relations firm for their preferred candidate. That [BLEEP] is over with and watching you cry about it is greatly gratifying.
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(02-07-2025, 01:45 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Lol, you mean "bye bye Democrat House Organs Masquerading as independent news sources", and we're perfectly fine with that. The 60 Minutes example is the perfect demonstration of a supposed media outlet giving In Kind campaign donations by acting, not as a news program, but as a marketing and public relations firm for their preferred candidate. That [BLEEP] is over with and watching you cry about it is greatly gratifying.

Indeed !  Mr Accountability comes to the news.
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(02-07-2025, 01:45 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Lol, you mean "bye bye Democrat House Organs Masquerading as independent news sources", and we're perfectly fine with that. The 60 Minutes example is the perfect demonstration of a supposed media outlet giving In Kind campaign donations by acting, not as a news program, but as a marketing and public relations firm for their preferred candidate. That [BLEEP] is over with and watching you cry about it is greatly gratifying.

Favorable press is not a crime.
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(02-07-2025, 02:49 PM)TDOSS Wrote:
(02-07-2025, 01:45 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Lol, you mean "bye bye Democrat House Organs Masquerading as independent news sources", and we're perfectly fine with that. The 60 Minutes example is the perfect demonstration of a supposed media outlet giving In Kind campaign donations by acting, not as a news program, but as a marketing and public relations firm for their preferred candidate. That [BLEEP] is over with and watching you cry about it is greatly gratifying.

Favorable press is not a crime.

Ok doof.
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(02-07-2025, 02:56 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(02-07-2025, 02:49 PM)TDOSS Wrote: Favorable press is not a crime.

Ok doof.

Or even a breach of license. You can thank Reagan for that.
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#7
(This post was last modified: 02-07-2025, 06:21 PM by NewJagsCity. Edited 2 times in total.)

Bye bye subsidizing the corrupt press with federal funds is the correct title
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(02-07-2025, 06:19 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: Bye bye subsidizing the corrupt press with federal funds is the correct title

How much federal money was KCBS getting?
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(This post was last modified: 02-07-2025, 10:08 PM by NewJagsCity. Edited 1 time in total.)

(02-07-2025, 07:03 PM)TDOSS Wrote:
(02-07-2025, 06:19 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: Bye bye subsidizing the corrupt press with federal funds is the correct title

How much federal money was KCBS getting?

Yet to be determined. If zero, fine. Still doesnt change the corruption.
USAID has some good programs. Audit them and then move on. Transfer what is needed to the State Dept. Rubio will figure it out.
Audit the NGOs. Trace the kickbacks to Senators and Congresspersons of BOTH parties if they exist, and then fine thier [BLEEP] and get that money back. Jail them if necessary. NO politician could ever become a multimillionaire on thier salaries. It doesnt add up. I paid a lot of federal taxes over my working life and it should anger every American to see the [BLEEP] it got wasted on.
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(02-07-2025, 08:28 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote:
(02-07-2025, 07:03 PM)TDOSS Wrote: How much federal money was KCBS getting?

Yet to be determined. If zero, fine. Still doesnt change the corruption.
USAID has some good programs. Audit them and then move on. Transfer what is needed to the State Dept. Rubio will figure it out.
Audit the NGOs.  Trace the kickbacks to Senators and Congresspersons of BOTH parties if they exist, and then fine thier [BLEEP] and get that money back.  Jail them if necessary.  NO politician could ever become a multimillionaire on thier salaries. It doesnt add up. I paid a lot of federal taxes over my working life and it should anger every American to see the [BLEEP] it got wasted on.

This.
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(02-07-2025, 06:19 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: Bye bye subsidizing the corrupt press with federal funds is the correct title
The government is paying the press with USAID for the press to be independent from the government.

Yes, the press is taking money from the people they are supposed to be holding accountable.

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#12

It's definitely not a crime to report undercover police operations. Sorry guys.
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(This post was last modified: 02-08-2025, 11:59 PM by NewJagsCity. Edited 1 time in total.)

No one has called it a crime in this thread, but it does ruin the claim of the press being impartial and objective. Smashes it to smithereens, actually.
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(This post was last modified: 02-09-2025, 08:16 AM by mikesez. Edited 1 time in total.)

(02-08-2025, 11:57 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: No one has called it a crime in this thread, but it does ruin the claim of the press being impartial and objective. Smashes it to smithereens, actually.

Ok.  You know there has never been an impartial press right?
The closest thing you might ever find is foreign press. A reporter can be impartial about what's going on in someone else's country. They're usually not impartial about what's going on in their own.
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(02-09-2025, 08:15 AM)mikesez Wrote:
(02-08-2025, 11:57 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: No one has called it a crime in this thread, but it does ruin the claim of the press being impartial and objective. Smashes it to smithereens, actually.

Ok.  You know there has never been an impartial press right?
The closest thing you might ever find is foreign press.  A reporter can be impartial about what's going on in someone else's country. They're usually not impartial about what's going on in their own.

Wrong, it's just been a while.

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(02-09-2025, 08:38 AM)Sneakers Wrote:
(02-09-2025, 08:15 AM)mikesez Wrote: Ok.  You know there has never been an impartial press right?
The closest thing you might ever find is foreign press.  A reporter can be impartial about what's going on in someone else's country. They're usually not impartial about what's going on in their own.

Wrong, it's just been a while.

[Image: Walter-Cronkite-April-1962.jpg]

Cronkite was at least 5 years late when he finally decided to be honest about Vietnam. 
He and the broadcast corporation he served were as self-interested as anyone else.
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(02-09-2025, 01:05 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(02-09-2025, 08:38 AM)Sneakers Wrote: Wrong, it's just been a while.

[Image: Walter-Cronkite-April-1962.jpg]

Cronkite was at least 5 years late when he finally decided to be honest about Vietnam. 
He and the broadcast corporation he served were as self-interested as anyone else.

Since we have brought him up, lets' see what Walter had to say about it. (from his autobiography)

"I am proud to the degree to which we kept our evening news free of bias, although on a subject as controversial as the war, we did not get credit from either side for doing so. The conservatives and government supporters thought we had joined the wild-eyed, 'unpatriotic' liberals. The students and other opponents hounded us as mouthpieces for the establishment."

This sounds about right to me.
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(02-09-2025, 02:21 PM)Jag149 Wrote:
(02-09-2025, 01:05 PM)mikesez Wrote: Cronkite was at least 5 years late when he finally decided to be honest about Vietnam. 
He and the broadcast corporation he served were as self-interested as anyone else.

Since we have brought him up, lets' see what Walter had to say about it. (from his autobiography)

"I am proud to the degree to which we kept our evening news free of bias, although on a subject as controversial as the war, we did not get credit from either side for doing so. The conservatives and government supporters thought we had joined the wild-eyed, 'unpatriotic' liberals. The students and other opponents hounded us as mouthpieces for the establishment."

This sounds about right to me.

Yup. Self-serving. Journalists, spies, and military advisors who actually went out to the countryside of South Vietnam from 1960 to 1963 saw the situation clearly.  They were ignored by both parties because the message was politically inconvenient for both parties at the time.

That's just one example.  They all have biases and blind spots, every single one.
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(02-09-2025, 05:58 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(02-09-2025, 02:21 PM)Jag149 Wrote: Since we have brought him up, lets' see what Walter had to say about it. (from his autobiography)

"I am proud to the degree to which we kept our evening news free of bias, although on a subject as controversial as the war, we did not get credit from either side for doing so. The conservatives and government supporters thought we had joined the wild-eyed, 'unpatriotic' liberals. The students and other opponents hounded us as mouthpieces for the establishment."

This sounds about right to me.

Yup. Self-serving. Journalists, spies, and military advisors who actually went out to the countryside of South Vietnam from 1960 to 1963 saw the situation clearly.  They were ignored by both parties because the message was politically inconvenient for both parties at the time.

That's just one example.  They all have biases and blind spots, every single one.

I assume you are talking from experience?
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(02-08-2025, 06:05 PM)mikesez Wrote: It's definitely not a crime to report undercover police operations. Sorry guys.
I bet it is if you are a government employee who is leaking it when the illegals have been declared terrorists.

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